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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:00 PM
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UGH!!! Asa Hutchinson just said the Hurricane was down graded before
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 07:01 PM by BlueStateGirl
it hit land, so who could have predicted it???

I expected CHris Matthews to say "Sure from 5 to 4", but he said"Sure , from 5 to 4 to 3 to 2 to 1". AS to imply that is was a Cat 1 when it hit land.

And Tweety just said "No one could have predicted this"

Bullshit. This has been talked about as a possibility for years. It was ranked in the top 3 of FEMA's disaster scenarios.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:05 PM
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1. No one could have predicted it? Think again, Tweety!
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 07:05 PM by BattyDem
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:07 PM
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2. Doesn't he know what a "4" is? (And it was a "strong" 4 accd. to noaa)
Spin spin spin....
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:05 PM
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11. Florida was hit with 4s that were downgraded, and they still
left their mark. Tornadoes and rain are unpredictable things.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:09 PM
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3. I began watching the Weather Channel at 3 a.m. CDT: it was obvious NO
would be flooded big-time as any fool could see the strong hurricane-force winds driving Lake Bourne into Lake Ponchartrain for several hours. At least four houses we had lived in over a nine-year period in the 50s and 60s are now under several feet of water.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:13 PM
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4. Hutchinson's just on to gear up his compaign for guv of Ark.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:14 PM
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5. I heard that load of crap, too!
We all knew that it would definitely be at least a 4-5 at least 24-36 hours before it hit! Do these bastards think we are idiots?

peace.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:15 PM
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6. So it's a grotesque numbers game, is it?
They weren't prepared because they cut the budget. They gambled with people's lives and lost.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:16 PM
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7. Is condi writing the talking points for this one? She of "no one could
have predicted people would fly planes into buildings" fame.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:19 PM
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8. That's where my mind went as well. And he said it with the same
disingenuous look on his face.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:21 PM
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9. MSM touted "new orleans dodged a bullet"!?!?
shortly after...are they fucking serious? MSM? the same group of ninny's that sanctioned by their silence, their sin of omission, the republican war on terror!?!?

i heard jeanne meserve's voice crackling with random, runaway emotion on the night of the devastation. category 5, 4, 3, 2, whatever. it is time for all our lofty authorities & our bullshit 4th estate to pull their fucking heads out of their fucking asses

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/meserve.jeanne.html
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:22 PM
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10. They have the nerve to use the exact same wording they used after 9/11?
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muwriter Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:09 PM
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12. We should redefine the scale. This sure looks like a 5
Catastrophic damage and all.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:56 PM
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13. The hurricane scale doesn't include damage;
storms are categorized entirely by meteorological variables. The tornado scale, on the other hand, does include the amount of damage in determining which level applies...

It seems in a lot of cases that a bit too muchattention is paid the the storm category - as if a 4 is somehow so much better than a 5 and a 2 must be just trivial. I think a lot of people (not meaning you) just don't realize what these storms are - even a tropical storm or a simple tropical depression can do huge damage if it lingers in the wrong place...
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:58 PM
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14. I hope someone is cataloging all the lies
the fuckers are spewing tonight.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:00 PM
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15. It was a 915 mb hurricane when it hit...They just don't get any bigger...
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 09:00 PM by Junkdrawer
than that...

Meteorologists have been complaining for years that pressure, not wind speed, should be used to rank hurricanes.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:01 PM
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16. I was also up watching this until very late - Weather Channel...
COULD NOT HAVE BEEN CLEARER about what this was going to do. They kept repeating that the BEST case scenario was for it to drop slightly from a 5 to a 4, but it was still going to have the effect of an F2 or F3 TORNADO, only over a very wide area, and that it was going to be catastrophic.

But, if anything has been proven under this most embarrassing and regrettable misadministration, it is that truth no longer counts, and lies, when repeated, can become the new truth.

I am a peaceful person, but find myself wishing very bad things on many, many politicians these days. And, the Dem leaders are NOT STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE. I guess they are no less in the corporate pockets than the righties.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:02 PM
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17. Did Chris wipe the brown "stuff" off of his lips?


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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:03 PM
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18. Well, if only we had known the adresses of the homes it would hit....
ala Condi
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:04 PM
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19. Asa Hutchinson
is going to get LEVELED in the Arkansas Governors race. Mike Bebee will roll him like a joint!
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oddtext Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:05 PM
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20. not this tired old "no one could have predicted"
SHIT AGAIN!!!!!

:banghead:

i saw a NOAA weatherman predict precisely what we have seen. so, if i was informed of the risks on saturday and sunday, why wasn't senator asleep-at-the-switch?
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:06 PM
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21. Seems to be the talking point, just now FEMA doof said same thing
FEMA director saying no one predicted Katrina would be so bad
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4537869&mesg_id=4537869

It's amazing to see them all marching in goosestep so quickly.

Assholes and liars, the lot of 'em
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:09 PM
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22. The difference between cat 4 and cat 5
is the same as the difference between being hit by a semi or a train.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:12 PM
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23. I was up very late (went to bed around 2:00am PST), they just down graded
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 09:16 PM by Rainscents
to 4. However, I was watching MSNBC, and the weather gail stated, wind measurment was done from back NE (which is much less intense). She was very clear that, wind from front NW was MUCH stronger!!! I wonder why, they did this and downgrated to CAT 4??? Far as I can see, someone wanted make sure this hurrican looked better on the paper. I tell you, FUCKING cover ups!!!

BTW; In the end, I can bet you, they'll have to bring this back up to CAT 5 hurricane! They did this with Andew! Andew was originally CAT 4... this was changed 2 years later to CAT 5!
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