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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:04 PM
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Who will pump, who will supply the pumps... my predictions.
Who will pump:


Who will supply the pumps to be purchased:
Ingersoll Dresser Pumps... look who their pardner is... surprise surprise.....

http://www.forest.ca/browsesearch/99/50/8942/
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:05 PM
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1. I think you're onto something... n/t
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:07 PM
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4. Seen it before.... nothing new about this sort of thing. Take a look
at this article and see why someone should be concerned.

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/03/15/State/US_fraud_suit_targets.shtml
U.S. fraud suit targets ex-partner of Jeb Bush
The Justice Department says a water pump company fraudulently helped Nigeria obtain $74-million in taxpayer-backed loans.
By ADAM C. SMITH, Times Political Editor
© St. Petersburg Times
published March 15, 2002


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Gov. Jeb Bush's former business partner in a venture to sell water pumps abroad defrauded the U.S. government of more than $74-million, federal authorities contend in a lawsuit.

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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:06 PM
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2. Only if they don't have to bid on a contract.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:11 PM
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5. But wait, there's more.....
http://www.whoseflorida.com/our_voice-summer-2002.htm#Nigerian%20Pump


JEB and the Nigerian Pump kickback case
This week it was the St. Petersburg Times, and the focus was on brother Jeb Bush. It seems that back in 1989 (around the same time he was in business with a now-fugitive HMO operator as well as a convicted HUD borrower, and while Jeb was defaulting on a $4.5 million loan from a failed Florida S&L) Jeb was also partners with a fellow whose company is now under investigation for misappropriating federal loan funds to Nigeria.

That deal reared its ugly head again this month when details became public thanks to a whistleblower and a federal lawsuit. The lawsuit claims the company, MWI Corp., a water pump manufacturer based in Deerfield Beach, FL, improperly used more than one-third of a $74.3 million U.S. loan to pay bribes and kickbacks to Nigerian government officials.

Jeb Bush's business partner in the deal was prominent Florida Republican contributor J. David Eller. Court filings allege that Eller flew suitcases of cash to offshore tax havens to hide assets from the deal.

Jeb Bush was paid $648,250 by Bush-El, a company he and Eller formed in 1988 to promote MWI's pumps. Eller and his company have contributed more than $129,000 to the Republican Party since 1989, according to the watchdog group Common Cause.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:06 PM
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3. I think we should ask Holland for advice
:think:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:14 PM
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6. And lest we forget this little gem.... so you can see why my original
post "may" be grounded in reality.

http://www.extralove.com/ash_jeb_waterscandel.html
May 23, 2002

Water district investigates deal with Jeb Bush's former partner

Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. - The South Florida Water Management District has begun an investigation of a contract it awarded to a company run by a former business partner of Gov. Jeb Bush.

The district is trying to determine whether its staff improperly gave a $1.9 million deal for water pumps to MWI Corp. of Deerfield Beach, said district spokesman Randy Smith. A report is expected to be released within a week, Smith added.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:26 PM
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7. And making this stream complete, you have this... and when Mr.
Finch resigned as executive director from SFWMD there were rumors of his office being swept for "bugs". Put it all together and you have a wonderful picture of our system riddled with self seeking gubmint officials trying to make a buck for themselves and friends off the taxpayers' backs. I am somewhat disillusioned by the stench of it all.

http://www.enviro-net.com/main.asp?page=story&id=7&month=04&paper=fl&year=2000
SFWMD district manager resigns amid controversy


Prakash Gandhi


Senior Environmental Correspondent
The trouble-torn South Florida Water Management District has been rocked by a new controversy with the sudden departure of a top executive who oversaw the purchase of more than $600 million in public land.

Bill Malone, a 14-year employee instrumental in buying tens of thousands of acres for the Everglades restoration and other projects, resigned in March after being suspected of speaking out against a controversial land purchase.

Two weeks before Malone agreed to resign, his bosses ordered an internal investigation into whether he had tried to undermine the $63 million purchase by releasing information to lawmakers and the Florida Audubon Society. Malone talked about the deal in negative terms, according to an internal district memo dated March 3.

Malone told reporters in February that a generous leaseback arrangement in the proposed $63 million deal was better for the landowner, Berry Groves, than a previous $70 million purchase plan that Malone and his staff had negotiated late last year. The district's governing board rejected that proposal in December at the urging of Gov. Jeb Bush, who had objected to the high purchase price.

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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:38 PM
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8. They keep an entire below sea level country dry
and used to do it with windmills and dirt dikes.

Why isn't anyone asking why this concrete levee wall failed, (17th St Canal,) that the Corp of Engineers had recently finished refurbishing? Who was the contractor? Who tested the concrete quality and strength? Why did the wall fail when it really wasn't stressed beyond expected loads, (the lake wasn't overly high)?

Where are the images of them trying to plug the breach, like they keep saying they tried?
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:44 PM
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9. ...And let's not forget Bechtel
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 07:47 PM by w8liftinglady
http://www.bechtel.com/iraqbinladenresponse.htm
Press release from 2003 shows their affiliation with the Bin Ladens

And methinks they protest too much
http://www.bechtel.com/iraqresponse.htm
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:56 PM
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10. This statement from Bechtel's site carries some weight w8liftinglady
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 07:58 PM by 4MoronicYears
but I beg to differ with their assertions.

They claim: "The bin Laden family is totally estranged from Osama. It has denounced his actions since the mid-1990s."

But some reports stated otherwise.

http://www.questionsquestions.net/bushladen/profiles/blacksheep.html

http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/575733.asp

Eyebrows were raised at the fact that the Bin Laden family's construction company won the contract to rebuild the Khobar Towers which were bombed in 1996, an incident in which Osama was a leading suspect. Clearly they showed no qualms about profiting from their "wayward" son's terrorism. In addition it should be noted that until public outcry led them to divest their holdings in Carlyle more than a month after 9/11, the Bin Laden family stood to profit handsomely from increases in US military spending that would be expected after any terrorist attack.

A sister-in-law of OBL, Carmen Bin Laden publicly contradicted the family by claiming that some of them sympathized with or supported Osama:

Asked if members of the family had helped finance the Al-Qaeda leader, she said: "My opinion is yes . . . I think they would say, 'Okay, this is for Islam.' They would give. For Islam, they would give." She added: "What I have heard is he has the backing of some of the royal family. They think the same way. Not all of them, but some of them. You have to understand, I think in Saudi Arabia Osama Bin Laden has a little following. And in my opinion, this is what makes him dangerous. Because he has . . . the backing of a lot of people there." Sunday Times, 28 October 2001

A friend of the family dismissed these allegations based on the fact that she is currently undergoing divorce proceedings and wants to pressure the family. Her estranged husband, Yeslam Bin Laden, asserted that such allegiances by the family were impossible, given their friendly relations with the US and their involvement with the Carlyle group.

Nice try, but not very credible in the face of the following report:

The German news weekly Der Spiegel revealed that Deutschebank also handled accounts worth about $100 million for Osama bin Laden's family. These were part of 10 accounts it suspected were linked to terrorists or terrorist activities and which it later handed over to German authorities after the attacks, according to a report in Britains The Guardian. But no further comments have been forthcoming from the financial giant.
FTW - Profits of Death

Particularly troubling is a report from the European press that a company controlled by the Bin Laden family had been fingered by investigators as one of the perpetrators of insider trading before the attacks, which would indicate clearly that members of the family other than Osama shared specific prior knowledge of the operation. This was quoted from the online Italy Times a few days after the attacks, but unfortunately I haven't been able to find any follow up on it yet (was it a false alarm, or has the story been buried?). It's a shocker:

STOCK SPECULATIONS BIN LADEN INVESTMENT GROUP INVESTIGATED Sadi, a Geneva-based investment group that is controlled by the Bin Laden family, is under investigation for an appalling interpretation of insider-trading. Twenty minutes before the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, the Sadi group instructed to sell certain stock portfolios at several European stock markets. In the days following the attacks, large buying-orders, especially in the oil and chemical sector, were placed. The world-wide investigation in the Sadi-group's actions have been felt also on the Italian stock market based in Milan.

Other suspicious financial connection exist: the FBI learned by <more>
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