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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:22 AM
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if we rebuild NO, in 10 years when sea level raises,will this happen again
If sea level raises 10-20 ft over the next 10 years, won't this happen again?

Would global warming do this even if Katrina didn't?
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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:24 AM
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Probably
If global warming continues unabated thanks to the administration and some other countries who refuse to join the Kyoto portocol, within decades every major coastal city will be under water.
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Bush_Sucks Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:24 AM
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1. The water in the city has equalized with the lake...
My question is where do you pump all the water before you can rebuild the city?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:25 AM
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3. Into the river
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:25 AM
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2. Well, here's my take on it. (Sorry if you're in the thread)
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:26 AM
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4. I hope we would have better building material in the levey's for one. (nt)
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:27 AM
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5. No. Of course not. We have the means and technology to
have NO safe. We chose not to use it this year, and the last couple of years.

Given enough dykes and levees, NO will be just fine.

Will it ever be the same again? That's the question.

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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:41 AM
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8. Look
Rebuilding NO is like building a city from scratch. There is no surviving infrastructure that can be used. It will cost what, $500B, $1T, $2T to rebuild it?

And to have it destroyed again in 30 years from inundation from the Gulf or another hurricane? Have another 100,000 people die?

Fuck that! You can waste money and kill people on your own time.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:28 AM
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And consider the many other great coastal cities worldwide
like Maimi, San Francisco, New York, Hong Kong, Venice, and on and on and on.

Crikey!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:28 AM
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6. Well, NO might be a special case, but what choice is there?
Do we not rebuild after a natural disaster? This is the mouth of the Mississippi....I can't imagine that such a strategic commercial location cannot and will not be rebuilt. Given all the debris in the tri-state area, I'd think that NO could be rebuilt about 30' above sea-level.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:29 AM
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7. I don't think NO is rebuilding anytime soon. for one thing,
they won't be able to buy insurance. The city of NO had to constantly beg insurance companies to keep issuing policies for property in the city in the first place.

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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:42 AM
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9. We need to get some Dutch engineers over here
to do the job right. They've done a good job in the Netherlands, which is below sea level.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:46 AM
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10. No
The bottom line is that the levee's were never secured properly. They were underfunded and not updated since the early 90s.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:48 AM
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11. if sea level rises 10-20 ft, the gulf will come in, not the lake and river
there is no levee for the gulf
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:57 AM
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13. well, to be honest
I don't believe the seas are going to rise 5-10 feet in the near or long future. That's a doomsday scenario involving extreme melting of both ice caps.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:55 AM
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12. NO needs to take a hint from the Netherlands
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 01:56 AM by Whoa_Nelly
I have a hard time understanding why this had never been put into place around NO. Knowing that it needed protection from water to survive, this technology has been successfully employed for many, many years.

http://july.fixedreference.org/en/20040724/wikipedia/Delta_Works

Delta Works

The Delta Works in The <[Netherlands[br />]] In 1953 a break in the dikes and seawalls in the Netherlands killed 1,835 people and forced the evacuation of 70,000 more. Ten thousand animals drowned, and 4,500 buildings were destroyed. To prevent such a tragedy from happening again, an ambitious flood defense system was conceived and deployed, called the Delta Works (Dutch: Deltawerken).
This project was meant to improve the safety of the lower areas of the Netherlands against severe storms and flooding; since more than half of the nation's land lies below sea level, this is no simple task. Dunes along the entire seashore were raised by as much as 5 meters, while the islands in Zeeland province were joined together by dams and other large scale constructions. The most sophisticated and famous of these dams is the Oosterscheldedam, which can be opened and closed to keep the sea at bay while preserving the saltwater river delta for wildlife and the fishing industry.

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