Why are there still people in the Superdome?

[DoYouEverWonder]

This is beyond ridiculous, it is criminal. It was criminal to put them there in the first place but that's a different issue. However, they've had since Monday afternoon to start getting people out of there and they did nothing until yesterday. As a matter of fact they contined to bring more people in.

Now all they can muster is a feeble effort lining up buses and filling them one at a time. When what they needed to do since Monday is focus a massive effort to get those people out using buses, boats and helicopters.

This place could have and should have been cleared by Tues night. Unfortunately, Bush was too busy learning how to play guitar and now he'd rather commit valuable resources to protect stuff instead of people.

PEOPLE ARE DYING and for the President to not do everything he can to get these people out of there is now a crime against humanity.

[skooooo]

1. Well, one reason...

...is because some idiot shot at a helicopter that was involved in the evacuation efforst.

[notadmblnd]

5. I haven't heard the guard and police talking about this

I am hearing about the buses and fire though.

[DoYouEverWonder]

6. That just happened this morning

there should have been no one there to shot at, at this point.

[notadmblnd]

2. there is a fire in the building.. they are letting people out the doors

they have called every soldier back to the gate. I don't know if I heard them say to not let the buses stop. Moving soldiers to south side of building and hold the perimeter there.

[Eurobabe]

3. Some dickhead is shooting at evacuation helicopters

n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

4. Where else would you have put that many people..

on such short notice?

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. I was on this board

screaming all day Sunday that they should not be putting all those people in that building.

They should have taken the city buses and school buses down to where the people were lined up outside the Superdome and start driving them out of harms way.

It was criminal to tell people that any site WITHIN the evacuation zone was going to be safe.

Safety was a short 1 or 2 hour drive west. The roads were clear by Sunday night because most of the people who could leave had already left.

If we anyone leading the country on Sunday this whole tragedy could have been avoided. But that was the problem, our leader went AWOL again and we were left to our own devices.

[Birthmark]

7. It's the looters, doncha know!

It is really because they had no plan coming into this disaster. When they made one, they directed it at saving property, not people. Now that it's too late for many in NO, it can all be blamed on the "looters" and not on the incredibly fucked up response - or lack thereof.

[Kindigger]

8. I agree, but....

I think they should go get the "near dead" off of that highway, before they load up ALL those in the dome.:cry:

Edited: unaware of fire & shootings at the dome. Guess I should have read some previous threads.

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. They should be able to do both

at the same time.

Or at least drop those folks some tents, tarps and supplies.

You can be damn sure if they were white they wouldn't be there any more.

[Joe the Revelator]

14. Can we please stop playing the race card?

Its not all that productive, and its making an issue out of something that really isn't

[Karenina]

16. It IS an issue.

A BIG NASTY ONE, at that.

[BrendaStarr]

18. So yahoos on all other message boards

Can laugh with glee becuase this is happening to a city that is 67% black, but we can't say anything?

Funny if the attitude wasn't there, then where do all the yahoos come from?

Gee, we see people being treated like cattle, but hush our mouth.

Don't say anything.

Boy, did you see that picture of our great leader looking out the window of his airplane?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

9. Right now its not going well

They have had to remove the people from the dome due to a fire.

This is causing problems with crowd control and getting the busses in to where the people are. They are loading them as fast as they can and getting them out. They can only bring in 10 sets of busses at a time (I think this is due to space) and from what I hear are doing the best they can with one hell of a horrible situation.

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. That's why they need boats and helicopters.

There's water all over the place and the river is only a few blocks away.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

20. I heard something earlier about them getting 50 military and 20 other

Helicopters. This was on the scanner and I've not seen it on the news yet. I don't know if they are just offered of if they are there or what.

[BrendaStarr]

15. Best they can do after they cut the funds for the Army Corps

They are talking about how the Bush administration cut funds in relation to the upgrading of the levees now, but I remember reading that the Army Corps was charged also with creating an evacuation plan for NO too.

I assume that was trashed by little britches' funds cutting, too.

If this is the best that they can do then they are lazy incompetent jacks, but we knew that.

And trudging people from one prison to another is unconscionable.

Yes, it is a prison if you take people a few hundred miles away.

One mother, as recorded by the Washington Post, hadn't even found her teenage daughters yet.

As dangerous as this world is, one needs to be able to know where one's teenage girls are.

[Algorem]

13. NBC says breaking news -Superdome evacuation put on hold,people

getting seriously angry

[DoYouEverWonder]

17. Just like Iraq

Bush refuses to commit the resources to do the job.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

21. That's BS

I've been listening to them busing people out.

Our media is as usual a day late and a dollar short.

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. The following advisory was issued SUNDAY AFTERNOON

The storm didn't hit until Monday morning.


WWUS74 KLIX 282139
NPWLIX

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE
MISSISSIPPI RIVER DELTA...
...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS.

LAZ038-040-050-056>070-MSZ080>082-290300-
ASSUMPTION-HANCOCK-HARRISON-JACKSON-LIVINGSTON-LOWER JEFFERSON-
LOWER LAFOURCHE-LOWER PLAQUEMINES-LOWER ST. BERNARD-LOWER TERREBONNE-
ORLEANS-ST. CHARLES-ST. JAMES-ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST-ST. TAMMANY-
TANGIPAHOA-UPPER JEFFERSON-UPPER LAFOURCHE-UPPER PLAQUEMINES-
UPPER ST. BERNARD-UPPER TERREBONNE-
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT...

HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. TROPICAL STORM
FORCE WINDS ARE CURRENTLY MOVING INTO THE COASTAL MARSHES AND WILL
PERSIST FOR THE NEXT 26 TO 28 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL
ONSET AROUND MIDNIGHT NEAR THE COAST AND BY 3 AM CLOSER TO THE NEW
ORLEANS METRO AREA AND PERSIST FOR 9 TO 15 HOURS. MAXIMUM WIND GUSTS
AROUND 175 MPH ARE LIKELY IN THE WARNED AREA BY DAYBREAK MONDAY.

DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS ONCE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ONSET!

$$

LAZ034>037-039-046>049-MSZ068>071-077-290300-
AMITE-ASCENSION-EAST BATON ROUGE-EAST FELICIANA-IBERVILLE-
PEARL RIVER-PIKE-POINTE COUPEE-ST. HELENA-WALTHALL-WASHINGTON-
WEST BATON ROUGE-WEST FELICIANA-WILKINSON-
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT...

HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. TROPICAL STORM
FORCE WINDS ARE CURRENTLY MOVING INTO THE COASTAL MARSHES AND WILL
SREAD NORTHWESTWARD INTO THE GREATER BATON ROUGE AREA AND
SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI LATER THIS EVENING. TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO ONSET AROUND 9 PM TONIGHT AND PERSIST
FOR 22 TO 26 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL ONSET AROUND
DAYBREAK AND PERSIST FOR ABOUT 5 TO 10 HOURS. MAXIMUM WIND
GUSTS OF 80 TO 90 MPH ARE POSSIBLE IN EAST-CENTRAL LOUISIANA
AND SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI.

DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS ONCE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ONSET

[Sgent]

22. Someone explain to me

How a city that is majority black, with a black mayor and city council, black police, etc., etc. can be racist.

I'm sorry, incompetence I buy, not racist. Hell, no one else -- including the tourists, were any better off. They stayed in the ballrooms of their hotels, with all their windows blown out, no water, not much food (most have already ran out), etc.

The superdome wasn't a great place, and something else should have been done, but racist? Your seeing it through colored glasses.

[DoYouEverWonder]

23. The mayor did not have the resources

he needed nor the authority to do much about it anyway. Bush won't even return his phones calls. But Bush had time to talk to his good friend the Gov. of MS at least three times.

The racist is GEORGE BUSH and his gang. The poor mayor from NO and the people there are doing the best they can. There is no fault to be found with them.