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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:47 AM
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Why isn't anyone talking about this? This is HUGE!
I was listening the NO police scanner stream and someone came on and shouted (to paraphrase):

"FEMA IS SHUTTING DOWN ZEPHYR FIELD (the main staging base), THEY CAN'T DO THAT! WE HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM HERE, IF THEY SHUT DOWN THE BASE WE ARE OUT OF BUSINESS!"

Why is FEMA actively scuttling the search&rescue!?
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:48 AM
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1. I heard that too!
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:48 AM
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2. What exactly does that mean? n/t
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:50 AM
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3. FEMA wants to shut down the main S&R staging base
If that happenes the national guard can't do their jobs.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:53 AM
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8. The NG can't do their jobs properly as it is.
They are stretched extremely thin as it is, and what few people they do have are coming back from double and triple tours of duty in Iraq.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:51 AM
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6. it probably means more people will die
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:50 AM
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4. I believe that's "HUGH".
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:50 AM
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5. Why, indeed?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:53 AM
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7. got a link to that scanner site???
Im guessing it is too dangerous because of armed mobs and no National Guard.
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:55 AM
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9. i posted earlier that I think this is on purpose
I'm trying to explain my thoughts but am having a hard time. I just know that for some reason they are doing this on purpose. They kept trying to get bulldog 3 to leave SD during the fire. Telling him to leave and tell the firefighters to leave. Thankfully this guardsman refused over 5 times. Saying each time that everything is okay. He had everything secured.
They were persistent. When that didn't work they asked for a couple of his men to go get the mayor. I'm assuming they thought when he did this that he wouldn't be able to contain the victims anymore. They were wrong. Something is fishy and anyone who has been listening since this morning can tell. Last night a general came and visited the dome. A guardsman was shot at this same time. Now they have turned the story saying that someone shot at a helicopter and that's why no one was being evacuated. This is a fabrication. The helicopter was never shot at. It was just a soldier shot at. The stories are being switched so they have a cover story when all hell breaks loose. That's my op.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:04 AM
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19. yes, the bushgang never has liked NO - it's just like the border prob.

the borders are open because the bushgang wants them open
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:07 AM
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24. perhaps - they want the media out ...make it very dangerous
so the truth doens't get out.

Cleary, bush knew about NO hurricane issue...and cut funding and now FEMA is playing the role.

SOmebody is not telling the truth....the questions is why?
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mshasta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:14 AM
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26. can you imagine
This is happening because is going to be an attack another city and they need FEMA in another place? I don’t know ....but they know something is going on and is really scary.. :scared:
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:56 AM
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10. Folks it has been 4 days
If folks are still stuck in their attics they are not alive.


NO is a town of 800K?

that means 250,000 homes. Even if 75% evacuated prior to the Hurricane. That is still 50,00 homes that needs to be checked.

But EMS does not have any idea which houses might be occupied,

If people are stuck insde with no water. no food, extreme heat and no way to get on the roof..... for four day...the odds are awful.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:58 AM
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11. What's the URL for NOLA police radio? /eom
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 10:58 AM by Bragi
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Tyranny_R_US Donating Member (988 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:01 AM
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14. Relay links:
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:59 AM
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12. Link
It doesn't work though, it has reached its maximum connections and is constantly dropping listeners.
http://205.252.89.181:8000/live.m3u
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:01 AM
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13. Please keep posting recaps.
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:03 AM
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16. lots of unanswered calls going on right now
pretty slow really
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:02 AM
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15. Thanks... should i keep trying it? /eom
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:03 AM
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17. What does S&R mean? Can you explain?
n/t
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:04 AM
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20. search and rescue. n/t
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:05 AM
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22. Search and Rescue
Basically, it is exactly as it sounds: coordinated efforts to actively search and secure injured/trapped persons in a time of crisis.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:03 AM
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18. FEMA HAS SUSPENDED SEARCH & RESCUE OPS!!!
MY GOD!!! :cry:
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:05 AM
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21. You know, I'm getting a little pissed at FEMA this morning
They're awarding reconstruction dollars. I'm sure they're capable of concentrating on two things at once, but all available resources should be concentrated in one area right now.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:06 AM
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23. NG rescuer reported shot. Rescue boats being shot at.
It was on the radio a few minutes ago. Two choppers have been hit, one wounding a soldier inside, and a number rescue boat groups came under fire this morning. They're stopping ops until they can secure the city or get armed protection for the rescuers so they can shoot back.
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:07 AM
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25. Amazing
We have people SHOOTING at the rescuers. What has my hometown become?
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:16 AM
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27. Why would people shoot at rescuers
WTF?
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