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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:35 PM
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This administration will never recover
from this week. I would not be surprised if Bush is forced to resign. Mary Landrieu said that the truth is going to come out. I think that is going to be within days. The reporters on the scene are now experiencing a life altering event and they are very, very angry. The public is horrified at what is now coming over the airwaves. The media hid the horror we caused in Iraq, but they can not or will not hid this. I think Bush may very well be forced from office.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:36 PM
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1. You are dreaming
When the "truth" comes out there will be plenty of blame to go around, and not all of it will fall on Bush and the Republicans.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:52 PM
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19. Definitely dreaming -- Bush will accept none of the blame...
It has worked for him so far, so why start accepting it now??

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:36 PM
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2. if not, we're fucked
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:37 PM
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3. The reporters have been saying...
"This must be what it's like in Baghdad."

Maybe the backside of the Bell curve will now cop a clue.
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Kenroy Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:37 PM
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4. CNN
is clearly saying the government is incompetent, and that DHS needs to do more. NOW.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:42 PM
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11. Kyra Phillips is ripping a General
a new one right now about the total lack of help. He keeps saying that help is on the way and she keeps asking, when are we going to see them?
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Kenroy Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:44 PM
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13. A few reporters have said
that DHS isn't handling it and NEEDS to get the military involved immediately.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:37 PM
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5. Mary Landrieu? Wait a minute .. I saw her talking a little while ago ...
and she said the federal government was doing everything possible and all available resouces were being used. It sounded like she was defending Bush. :shrug:

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:40 PM
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9. Maybe she wasn't talking about Bush
Maybe she was talking about the NOLA government. :shrug:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:43 PM
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12. I saw her yesterday
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 12:43 PM by fujiyama
and she was clearly defending this administration.

She may as well, because she's guilty of voting for most of Bush's budget cut, some of which probably contained the FEMA cuts.

I felt sorry for her. She's been through a lot. It is her hometown. But she is a Bush apologist no doubt.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:41 PM
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10. I am talkling about the cutting of the funding
for the levees.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:37 PM
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6. I wish I could be as confident as you are about this
I think there's reason to believe what you say will happen, but these snakes are very adept at diverting attention away from themselves or redefining the "issue".

Let's hope you're correct.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:39 PM
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7. I believe you are right
this has spun out of Rove's control now.

the 10s of thousands people that will have died after the counting is done, will IMHO show that most died after the cane and because of the lack of water and rescue.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:39 PM
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Bush doesn't have to recover
he's a "lame duck" anyway. He can still bully, bribe, blackmail and threaten Congress to get his way but it may not be as effective as it was, say, with the Medicare Drug Bill.

What I'm watching for is a Republican to "break out of the pack" and start condemning Bush* and campaigning AGAINST his policies. Hagel has already done it once, will he do it again?

Remember, if this screwup is perceived as Bush's* failure, the Republican's can't win in either '06 or '08 by running on his "legacy". They will only be able to win if they run like DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE RUNNING and that's by busting dubya's chops at every turn.
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Marymarg Donating Member (773 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:44 PM
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14. Yes, that is what it will take
That is what it took to get rid of Nixon. Republicans must do it.
This should not even appear to be a partisan thing. It is not. It is an American thing but Republicans are in the majority and he is their man. They should step up and admit that Bush is a disaster and for the good of the country, he should do the first noble act of his pathetic life and resign.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:39 PM
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8. I wish I had your confidence.
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 12:40 PM by deadparrot
I don't think anything would make these people leave their seats of power, ** least of all.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:45 PM
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15. Not a chance...the Blame Clinton campaign is getting started.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:46 PM
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16. The Bush administration will, of course, try to lay the blame
at the feet of local governments and at the feet of NOLA residents, but they will only deflect a portion of the blame. Bush will buy some time with, as I saw Scott McClellan say today, focusing on the rescue operation and "politics will come later".

Bush will resign in summer 2006, at the pressure of a Republican Congress seeking reelection that November.
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:48 PM
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17. He'll never leave of his own free will
We'll have to drag him, kickinng and screaming, from his castle.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:52 PM
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18. A little too optimistic for me
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 12:52 PM by RummyTheDummy
There's no way Bush would leave office. That would be dangerously close to an apology, and as we know, he doesn't apologize.

Of course it is likely to do long term damage to the Republican party, but then again, only if the Dems are willing to step up to the plate and provide a coherent opposition. I have my doubts.
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