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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:01 PM
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What is the process to shut down the executive branch?
Just hypothetically speaking; say the dem reps happen to grow a pair and realize that for the sake of national security, congress needs to remove the executive branch of the government from power, and start running the government themselves, how would they do that? Could senators order the military to secure the White House?
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:02 PM
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1. DEM REPS GROW A PAIR?
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 01:02 PM by jackster
I hate to say it

BUT WHEN DONKEY'S FLY!!!!!
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:03 PM
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2. I can think of a way, but I'm not allowed to say it on DU.
I have never felt hatred and anger like I do right now.

:grr:
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:04 PM
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3. That would constitute a parliamentary system
The constitution doesn't allow for that.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:07 PM
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5. there HAS to be a way of removing an administration that has
gone nuts-
If not, we need to make one.

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SujiwanKenobee Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:06 PM
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4. Yeah--where's that "Vote of No Confidence" when you need it?
Makes me suddenly long for a parliamentary system...
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adarling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:07 PM
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6. only way i can see
is if we pressure congress soooo hard that they begin impeachment proceedings
along with impeaching the evil one, we can impeach everyone at everylevel. I don't think people realize the situation we are in. We are FU***d. They are even talking about not even rebuilding new orleans. those poor people down there have nothing and they won't get them in there to save them. What is going on in the world.

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:08 PM
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7. Maybe
But that would require a Coup d'état.

Between the lines, the Constitution "requires" that the President be of sound mind and moral temperament and not be protected by his lackeys. That doesn't appear to be the case today.

The Senate can't order the military to do anything. That's the job of the President.

The only legal method for wresting control of the Executive branch would be for Congress to impeach the President, and for the Senate to vote to convict and remove him. And do the same thing for each Presidential supporter in the line of succession.

It would be a nightmare itself.

The best thing we could do would be to kick out enough Republican Senators and Representatives next November to give the Democrats complete control of the Legislature, and then hold on until 2008.

--p!
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:21 PM
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11. I don't think we HAVE 14 months...
They need to be removed NOW
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:11 PM
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8. Provisions in the Constitution
Article II
..Section 1. < Removal>

In case of the removal of the President from office, or of his death, resignation, or inability to discharge the powers and duties of the said office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by law provide for the case of removal, death, resignation or inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what officer shall then act as President, and such officer shall act accordingly, until the disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

Amendment XXV

Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

If I am reading this right, it seems we can get him on inability to discharge his duties as president. He has displayed that over and over again. You have to catch Cheney in this net too, though. If you think Bush was bad, think of Bush with a brain.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:12 PM
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9. "What is the process to shut down the executive branch?" A: Not sure but
whatever worked for the last week sure was powerful.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:21 PM
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10. Revolution
No other way.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:23 PM
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12. Elect a fucking moron to be President. Repeat.
nt
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