Watched Joe Scarborough, Tucker Carlson, Aaron Brown, Anderson Cooper

[DemsUnited]

Every one of those correspondents are FINALLY mad as hell & not going to take it any more.

Joe Scarborough: "any politician who tells you they didn't see this coming is not worth your respect and certainly not worth your vote"

Anderson Cooper: "people are tired of hearing politicians congratulate each other when there are rats eating the dead bodies in the streets"

Aaron Brown: "we're reporters, we're supposed to ask questions and right now the question is why did it take so long"

On and on and on. And god bless all the other roving reporters on the streets who have been there for days and reporting it to us straight.

Too bad it took an unimaginable disaster to wake the MSM up...

[KitchenWitch]

1. Kicked and Recommended

[ThoughtCriminal]

2. But they still can't bring themselves to say

the Republicans are in charge and boy did they screw this up.

People who hate government, suck at running it.

[Nikki Stone 1]

8. "People who hate government suck at running it"---PERFECT!

That's absolutely right. They hate it, want to destroy it, but wouldn't know how to run it with 200 years of training.

[krkaufman]

69. Yep, there's another T-shirt! n/t

[JDPriestly]

20. I'm a strong Democrat, but I have to say

that the Democratic governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans seemed to be denying and downplaying the likelihood of a disaster in NO until it was too late. Of course, this may be because they were being given overly optimistic information from the feds. I don't know how that was working.

This is not to excuse Bush and Homeland Security and FEMA because most of the fault lies at the national level. Obviously, the national agencies had the experience -- the capacity knowledge about the dangers, the ability to obtain information on the risks and resources available and the responsibility to provide full information and calculations on possible damage and access to the resources they would need to the local governments. The federal government, especially FEMA, has experience with these kinds of events and should have adequately warned the officials at the local level. So, the primary blame has to fall on the feds, but the state and local authorities also are responsible.

[Nikki Stone 1]

29. I agree with you that the state seemed woefully unprepared

Most states lost money in the early 2000 due to the stock market crash among other things. I'll bet the resources were stretched extremely thin.

[davepc]

42. Billions for Iraq and thousands of LA NG troops in Baghdad don't help any

[Patiod]

56. Duplication of effort in a poor state?

Louisiana has been at the bottom for state revenues for years - even back in the late 1980s.

So, if I'm the mayor or the governor, and I see FEMA coming in and running drills (the "Hurricane Pam" drill), then is it a good use of limited resources to put together my own separate evacuation plan?

Does San Francisco have one earthquake preparedness plan, California another, and FEMA a third? I'm asking this sincerely. A recent New Yorker article seemed to indicate that New York has its own terrorist handling plan, completely separate from the FBI or the rest of the feds, so maybe this is possible.

[wildeyed]

54. "People who hate government, suck at running it."

Good, I will use that.

[young_at_heart]

3. When will they ask why Bush "chose" to go to California?

He certainly didn't show leadership but not many have commented about this.

[FlaGranny]

18. Keith Olberman did. n/t

[berni_mccoy]

4. Great summation

:kick: recommended

[blonndee]

5. That's what I'm saying, guys!!! USE THIS!! PLEASE EMAIL THESE PEOPLE!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4569040

I'm not trying to promote my own thread, but I really think we need to pounce on this chance! PLEASE don't let this opportunity pass us by!!

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. Koppel tore the FEMA guy a new one

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[Pallas180]

38. I missed it. what;'d he say. Koppel has a way of being severe. :)

good.

[madame defarge]

7. Can anyone confirm this?

I heard from someone that it's a federal law that the states must ask for help and that LA did not ask for federal help for evacuation before the hurricane. I find this hard to believe, and especially with this regime who doesn't seem to give a flip about obeying any laws or following any protocol except their own.

Is this true? (I'd love to prove it wrong.)

[tinrobot]

12. No excuses.

I'm sure any decent president would have had the resources already available so they could respond instantly.

It is plainly obvious that this administration was caught flat footed.

[Polemicist]

17. LA was declared a disaster area, before Katrina...

even made landfall, to try to speed Federal aid. I think the request has to come from the local government to the state then to the Feds. Usually an entire state isn't declared a disaster area, FEMA does it county by county.

I don't know if NOLA asked for evacuation assistance. I think a lot of people just didn't want to leave. They will next time. We here in Coastal South Carolina learned the hard way during Hugo.

Don't ever stay put at the center of a natural disaster, if you have the chance to run away.

[Arugula Latte]

37. Um, there was no assistance for people without transport or money.

"I think a lot of people just didn't want to leave." Well, thousands DID want to leave and could not.

Are you proud of your government now?

[Mike Daniels]

66. What about school buses and city vehicles?

Sorry, but the mayor had resources at hand and he dropped the ball in taking care of his city's people.

After the mayor dropped the ball, the state and feds should have picked it up faster but the mayor screwed the pooch initially as he had enough time to order means of evacuation using vehicles at his disposal.

[krkaufman]

70. Yep, I'm not impressed w/ the city gov'ts performance here.

I'm pretty sure I saw a pic of tens of school buses sitting in a parking lot, flooded up to their roofs. Those buses should have been used to get people out of NOLA's low-lying areas and to shelters, and then could have been used to move them from the shelters to someplace where they could get some real help -- or to bring help in.

Instead, they're sitting underwater and inaccessible.

[nonconformist]

44. LA DID ask for help beforehand

It was declared a 'disaster area' by the fed government BEFORE Katrina hit for that very reason - so that aid could begin immediately.

Just, it didn't.

[blue northern]

48. I did hear that the mayor of New Orleans tried to contact *

but couldn't get him on the phone
Anyone else hear that?
I heard it mentioned in a news conference he gave on WWLTV
http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad

[ComerPerro]

9. They'll be back to kissing GOP tomorrow

After Bush does his photo op.

[Plausible]

27. yeah

exactly what I've been thinking. The ass kissing will commence tomorrow again.

[high density]

10. And Aaron Brown upon learning that many police were deserting the force

"How comforting." :sarcasm:

[progressivebydesign]

36. They said that they were outnumbered and it wasn't worth it.

Bush's ratings will be in the single digits by next week. When the cops are quitting becauase they fear for their lives and have lost everything themselves, then you know it's bad. People are going to start screaming about our National Guard not being at the ready.

[Bumblebee]

11. Posted it on a different thread but this is appropriate here as well

While I agree with much of the positive sentiment here I hope we do remember that they, even the best of them, with very few exceptions, were the enablers who allowed the Bush administration not to answer for their stupidity, evil ways, and incompetence -- and, boy, there have been so many occasions prior to this one. Once it's all done they should be held responsible and accountable big time as well. If they had started challenging this administration early enough we all would have been spared much pain, like Iraq and his second term. Now that his poll numbers are falling like a rock it's much easier to be brave.

[blonndee]

13. You're so right...but we SHOULD use them! The RW has done it very success

fully...USE them. Let's get the message(s) out NOW!!!

[Bumblebee]

14. Oh, I am all for using them and encouraging them and flattering them, etc

whatever it takes.

[La Coliniere]

15. Too bad they didn't

have such journalistic integrity on March 17, 2003.

[bobbieinok]

16. or in campaign 2000, or covering FL 2000, or 2002, or 2004

[rooboy]

19. I finally got to see the Anderson Cooper/Mary Landrieu interview.

I don't care if she's Mother Theresa - if I lived in her state, her political career would be over. The worst display of whoring I have EVER seen in such circumstances.

[Patiod]

57. What happened?

Now my cheapness in refusing to get cable is biting me in the ass.

[The_Casual_Observer]

21. Fuck these bastards, they are all bush lovers.

They ought ot be cheering him on.

[Eloriel]

Scarborough said that? Was he aware Bush had made that claim?

Wow.

[habitual]

30. scarborough was clearly pissed

he was very angry, my girlfriend and i were watching him thinking: This is clearly a turning point. He was viciously and powerfully attacking the government response AND cuts to the preparation funding. He was repeatedly saying that anyone who tells you this or that ARE LYING TO YOU. (he said he was told by emergency workers that they had the situation under control, he said somberly THEY DO NOT)

[anitar1]

49. I read a few days ago that Scarborough is thinking

Of running for office next year. Not sure what office.That could be why he ranted, to look good. I don't trust that guy.

[MADem]

61. Well, he probably figures he can beat Katherine Harris in a runoff

for the Senate seat, even with a dead woman in his office. I guess that is minor compared to a stolen election in your corset...

[Beaverhausen]

64. He was amazing last night. He is pissed

he, his wife and some friends were bringing the only supplies to a shelter in Biloxi. He was very angry and blaming the administration.

he has definitely seen the light.

I could NOT believe my eyes and ears watching his show last night!

[FlaGranny]

22. It seems to me that these reporters

are just human. Some of them are liberals, some are conservative. What they are seeing with their own eyes is upsetting them. They can't believe what they're seeing. I've never seen so many reporters cry on the air. While they and we were crying, Bush was playing guitar, eating cake, and making two of the stupidest speeches ever made by a president. Of course they're pissed. You'd have to be someone in the Bush administration to not be appalled.

[Bumblebee]

31. Scarborough is not really human :)

[spooky3]

67. That is exactly what I have been thinking. Seeing children

suffering and thirsty, the aged in wheelchairs with no medical care and no food...if you are standing there a few feet away or your best friend is and is relaying the scene to you with their rage and tears, you GET IT.

[Wizard777]

23. Bush is taking fire from all sides.

I think Rove is on the phone with Fitzgerald. I did it! I outed Plame! George and Dick made me do it! They said they would put the pictures of me and Guckert on the front page of every paper! Lock me up now!

:silly: Well you can always dream. That's what great about America.

[Dem2theMax]

51. LMAO! First time I've laughed in days.

Thank you. :)

[Lorien]

24. Tucker?

What did he say?

[skooooo]

25. Tucker Carlson had "Racism" as one of his talking points...

...as he talked about NO.

[jeffrey_X]

53. His racism talking point was lame...

It was only an interview with Al Sharpton where Carlson kept asking Sharpton if he's going to condemn the looters taking TVs etc.

It was really weak.

[Holly_Hobby]

26. The media turnaround is either a miracle or

they're in on it. :tinfoilhat:

[KAZ]

32. In on it.

Something I sent to a friend.

"One last thing I'd like to point out, but not necessarily to the group. I'm beginning to find the juxtaposition of the looting stories, and federal incompetence stories, a bit disconcerting. It's like this. To the middle class whites, "look at this uncontrollable black mass". To the African Americans, "look how they treat you and your kind when it comes down to it". It just seems like we're being incited. I can't be this paranoid, but I guess a paranoid would say that. Every day, I feel like I would have laughed if a novelist had written 10 years ago, what's occurring around me today. "

[cthrumatrix]

55. IF there is an AGENGA --- the media is "part of the chaos agenda"

if you want terra...if you want civil unrest... you need a media/govt combo


now why do they want civil unrest?

[DougieZero]

28. Bill O'Reilly is mad at the New York Times.... N/T.

[Bumblebee]

33. Oh, no, I am sure they are shaking in their boots!

Big, bad Bill O'Reilly, imagine that!

[friesianrider]

34. Way to go to Joe, Tucker, Aaron, and Andersen!

I heard the same.

It is inexcusable that this not only wasn't in place on Tuesday morning, but that it STILL isn't in place now. Absolutely wrong in this great country of ours...it should never happen here.

[chookie]

35. Don't forget Cafferty (CNN)

He has been reeling over these events. He has been screaming that it has been racist but no one has the guts to talk about THAT.

[njdemocrat106]

39. I remember Cafferty making a sarcastic remark about *'s vacation

I don't think there's any love lost between him and *.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

47. Cafferty was Magnificent! Here is the transcript. BTW..his passion

was incredible!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4561594&mesg_id=4561594

[question everything]

40. Add Ted Koepel to the list, too

As it is said: the difference between a politician and a stateman is that the politician is concerned with the next election and the statesman is concerned with the next generation.

[Robert Oak]

41. FEMA on Paul Zahn so lame!

Tell me, and these guys have feeds on CNN, they could not have known
about the people in the convention center???

The NO mayor told them to go there!

It's just outrageous these constant lies!

At least the reporters are killing the spin that people "chose" not to leave. There was absolutely no assistance to the poor, elderly and needy to get out of the city if you needed help or did not have a car.

[nickgutierrez]

43. "...when there are rats eating the dead bodies in the streets."

:wow:

[Robbie Michaels]

45. About Fucking Time!

Now let's see how long and hard they pursue this story in the coming days ahead.

[BuyingThyme]

46. Thanks for watching for me.

I can't do it any more.

[Drewskie]

50. Tucker

Tucker Carlson is a pussy and an opportunist... He will say anything to appear relevant. Seriously.... I hold him in the same regard as a Limbaugh or Hannity.

[Joe Chi Minh]

52. What a bitch, that blonde Senator!

It's a wonder that guy, Anderson, didn't lose it all together and nail her trite and empty platitudes for what they were. In his anger, he came close to it. It was sickening enough listening to those senators greasing up to each other during the so-called "impeachment" hearing of Clinton - even knowing it's the very air they breathe.

Well, they were so empty that, in one case, they actually reflected back the precise image of what he'd said so angrily and dismissively to her about politicians. Amazingly, she maundered on about representing the people, and her father and grandfather had done so before her. He should have told her that is precisely what politicians purport to do, including the most worthless wastes of space.

[EnfantTerrible]

58. It's about time

Finally the press starts to hold up it's end.

Kudos to the reporters... though I'm skeptical about Scarborough. He's getting ready to run for the senate again. It's difficult not to view his comments as campaigning.

[mattomjoe]

59. So is THIS what rock-bottom looks like?

It took the worst natural disaster crisis in the history of this country to FINALLY open people's eyes to the incompetence of this administration???????

[MADem]

63. Let's hope they remember the view, frankly

And we can move on and up with decent leadership, starting in 06.

[indepat]

60. An incredible number of disasters have long been brewing through

the noecons' policies and actions IMHO.

[NewJeffCT]

62. If they have lost Joe "Newt Gingrich is too liberal" Scarborough...

Then, it may be the beginning of the end for Bush...

[PATRICK]

65. NOW will they look at the consistency

of this ongoing neglect in ALL the areas they have been giving free passses on? Your lives were always at stake. it was always a matter of time. It is always a matter of life basics, of the right to vote, of the accountability, the law, the truth let slide by the comfortable wallowing in powerland backdrops.

I have heasrd even now politicians cpongratulating each other with adoring smiles over the worst activities inpisred by the driving bush agenda whethter it be BRAC or the voting commission or any other feel good enablers of the idiotically damaging rule by frauds.

As in small things so in great. NO ONE is safe in Bushamerica. Bush certainly thinks so in keeping away from people from being in the same room with the other capos. Of course the priority of actual suffering goes from the poor and black, the non-GOP voters, but it makes its way all the way to anyone not supposedly insulated by secrecy and money, the true core of the comfortably deluded props of Bush.

America never had a greater enemy than the modern GOP in practical terms, all fears of the KKK, Nazis and Commies come true in good old fashioned free(according to favoritist rules) enterprise greed. I am listening to one of these despicable incorrigible schmucks(WSJ) on C-Span. Incapable of anything but destroying Amemrica and denying the truth.

[underpants]

68. My wife CNN IS BLOWING UP!!!!!

She is at the inlaws and they just watched Cafferty go off on the timing of the convoy and what Anderson Cooper is doing-breaking down (and he was IN Rwanda).

:nuke:

[Tigress DEM]

71. MSM has been waking up slowly, but now it's RAGE time.