totally floored. a friend says N.O. is being punished for being so sinful

[ecstatic]

And he's not even an evangelical. I wonder if, besides the racism angle, this train of thought is also playing a role in Bush's bizarre lack of action 5 days into this disaster. Do evangelical Christians and others feel this is just a modern day example of Sodom and Gomorrah (sp)?

[Erika]

1. So why were Alabama and Mississipi hit?

They had mega gambling complexes.

[punpirate]

2. Your friend...

... hasn't thought much about this, huh?

Most of the time, it's a lot easier to just pass off something tragic as god's will than to think hard about the reasons.

[nashville_brook]

3. yes, they do, but that doesn't mean a lot of other things

most of the evangelicals i know -- i know a lot since i've working in xtian music -- are either closeted or have a weird need to put themselves on a pedastal. they will say shit like this to your face and not connect the meaning to it. it's their way of giving authority to the church and their daddies that they apparently didn't get enough love from.

[nonconformist]

4. These people are too batshit insane to even pay attention to. nt

[Kurt Remarque]

5. oh, please

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. It's all those gay people

That's what I heard today; NO is being punished because there are so many gay people there.

[MissMarple]

7. There is a LOT of denial going around.

I think some folks are scrambling their personal, internal resources all on their own. I had a friend say tonight that New Orleans is a city and a state problem. She may also listen to ...the pilonidal cyst guy. (If you get my drift.)

[Behind the Aegis]

8. Remember too...

That NOLA has a HUGE Catholic population and pagan communities. These are also big 'no-nos' in the minds of some fundies. There is also a substansial Jewish community.

[notadmblnd]

9. My mother made a similar remark tonight

I screamed at her. In fact I think I scared her. I told her that god didn't;t have a god damned thing to do with this and that the reason for these people dying was our government. They were at my house and visiting while I made some jam from some berries they picked. All the time they were here and we were chatting, I made them watch the news and listen to the police scanner in NO. I shoved the ugly truth right down their throats. It was tough love, kinda like a deprogramming for them, but I know, they left my house tonight with the blinders finally ripped off their eyes.

[ecstatic]

12. precisely what i told him!

This was a case of government neglect and unpreparedness. Period.

[notadmblnd]

19. it's deleberate neglect

and they're totally prepared for the outcome.

[Pallas180]

10. I was waiting to hear Falwell & robertson say it. No surprise

:rofl:

[Ian David]

11. It's being punished for being a "Blue" city in a "red" state

Bush cut the funding for flood control and emergency management.

It's no more the wrath of gawd than if I stole the airbags in your car and then you died in an accident.

[Canuckistanian]

22. Is that right? NO is like Austin, TX?

Well, that would explain a lot....

[Child_Of_Isis]

13. Good is punishing the black folk

for being poor. Everyone knows the poor are lazy. Our preznit said so.

[Gemini Cat]

14. Huh?

Hundreds are suffering, dead or dying, people are homeless and your friend comes up with this shit?
Might want to get a new friend.

[Secular Agent Man]

15. Ignore him, religion has turned his mind to mush. /eom

[fleabert]

16. it was only a matter of time. I am sure the 700 club has already said it .

fuck them.

[Arugula Latte]

17. Shouldn't this now be an ex-friend? nt

[Contrary1]

18. If that was true....

DC would have ceased existing years ago. Try that one on your friend,
and watch the stammering begin.

[annagull]

20. Pass Christian destroyed

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20050901/ts_csm/abiloxi

If your friends logic is right, looks like God hates all of us.

[Mugsy]

21. Now if a hurricane hit Las Vegas, THEN....

Now if a hurricane hit Las Vegas, THEN.... maybe he'd have a point (besides the one atop his head).

As far as I know, nothing has changed in the past 20 years, so why now?

[tuvor]

23. Oh, ferfuxakes...

What devastated metropolis CAN'T you say that about?

[Cascadian]

24. Oh, please!

What a ridiculous notion. New Orleans is not being punished for it's sins. For Christian fundamentalist Neocons like Bush, New Orleans is the embodiment of everything they hate. It's a predomantly Democratic city. Plus it has Alcohol, Jazz, Homosexuality, anything considered sinful in their eyes. It's Bush and the Neocons that are really punishing New Orleans, not God.


John

[Stil]

25. One who acts evangelical

Told me they need to just let them handle it on their own since everyone left there ignored the warnings. Don't you love RW "christians"

[Maple]

26. So explain all the other countries

that not only have 'sin', but make it legal.

Canada, Holland, Spain and Belgium have gay marriage.

Not to mention all the things other countries do that the US would consider 'sinful'.

Pot smoking. Hate laws. No death penalty. Separation of church and state.

The idea that a supreme being with a whole universe to look after would have more to do than worry about one city, in one country, in one hick backwater part of infinity...

[still_one]

27. who is your friend to judge other people?

Parents have lost their children, children have lost their parents.

People whose only fault was they were too poor to find transportation out of town.

What kind of person is your friend?

Are the 100000 Iraqii civillians that were killed in our name sinful?

Were the six million Jews slaughtered by the Nazis sinful?

Were the Cambodians who lost their lives in the killing fields sinful?

Were the African Americans who were forced to be slaves in this country sinful?

What kind of "god" does your friend believe in?

[SemperEadem]

28. my fundamental-case xtian mother said pretty much the same thing

said that Katrina was God's punishment because of the gambling casinos there... all of the vice allowed in that city for years. I was dumbstruck!