As a nation - are we being trained to "heel"?

[eleny]

Bernie Ward has been talking about FEMA responses. Before a hurricane even hit Florida, President Bush declares the state a disaster area so FEMA is in place to give immediate help. But levee work in New Orleans has its budget slashed. New Orleans voted in the majority for Kerry.

So, maybe we're in a harsh training session? Support W and you get rewarded. Don't support and see if he gives a shit when disaster strikes. See if he cares that rats will eat your dead carcass or your babies die in the street.

I don't put it past the sadistic sociopath in the WH.

[wli]

1. In a sense, yes. Dems get screwed, rethugs get rewarded.

However, people are not likely to play along with this. The ploy is too transparent.

[eleny]

2. Coming on the heels of Schiavo, the picture is so in focus

[Beam Me Up]

3. Yes, I think that is exactly what is happening.

The problem is, the vast majority of NO citizens are simply victims of an immense disaster in need of help. It is not they who are 'out of control' or in need of being put back 'under control'. It is the situation itself that is getting out of control.

[Autumn Colors]

4. But you see

the lesson isn't aimed at the victims of NO, it's aimed at the rest of us watching it.

[eleny]

5. Yes, that's what I was thinking

Be a good little dog. Behave and mind the master. Heel or else.

[illuminaughty]

6. We are being showed who is in control

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

7. Kind of a stretch IMO

And were it so, not much of a strategy. I'm willing to bet that more people are thinking: This man can't protect anyone from anything.

[eleny]

9. I was thinking that Bush sees himself as....

HeWhoMustBeObeyed

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

18. lol

He very well may. But the nucleus of power lies in those who submit to it, not those who wield it. For example my screen name applies to only one person - my SO. Wouldn't matter if I thought everyone should obey me, cuz it wouldn't happen. Likewise, how Bush sees himself is secondary to how he is seen. A man with 40% approval rating doesn't have the strength to swing a stick that big. But I'll grant that he may be crazy enough to think he does.

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[RBHam]

11. www.globalresearch.ca

Learn the truth, please!

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[eleny]

12. i didn't see your posting

sorry it happened rb.

[RBHam]

17. I dared to suggest a conspiracy theory.

I even dared to post the following web address...

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

[bbgrunt]

13. Well, I think this is a pretty interesting post by sunisurf from

another thread yesterday that has already been archived:



USA MILITARY CANCEL ALL LEAVE FROM SEPTEMBER.DRAFTREADY TO ACTIVATE
Submitted by robert on Sat, 2005-08-27 12:51. General Discussions
From T.ASCHER:Leland:
About 3 weeks ago was surfing some of the sites I enjoy posting on, when someone posted in all caps that they had just heard from an officer friend in the military that all leaves had been cancelled for the month of September. Obviously aware of the false flags our government is famous for, this person sounded desperate, asking for help in confirming or denying this "rumor" from anyone who had connections in the military.

I happened to ask a co-worker friend of mine whose son in-law is in the Army (82nd) about checking out the "rumor". Well guess what, they've had to move up their leave to this coming week to come home because his unit has to be back by September 7th. where upon all leaves are cancelled! They have seen a steady build up of heavy materials just sitting in storage facilities. He also commented that they were rushed through a training course on new weapons systems they just rolled out. He thought this very odd and a first.
This sent shivers all through me. Not to push any panic buttons I spoke with a dear woman with whom I work whose son is in the Army in an artillery unit. She is a former Captain, her husband is a former Colonel and Vietnam vet and successful attorney here in our area who also happens to be dying from the effects of Agent Orange. Lo and behold their son was told all leaves are cancelled for September and in December they may get leave, but can travel no further than 17 kilometers from their base. My niece is married to a young man in the Army stationed on the East Coast he is also 82nd, his leave has also been cancelled. Their first baby is due in December.
Leland, I'm not prone to fits of paranoia but I have to tell you, I have begun stocking water and canned goods. I am ex Air Force, I was on three ring standby most of my enlistment and was in a constant training mode. I know how this works and it doesn't sound good. The draft board offices are in place with staff waiting for the word to go. I read an article from a guy who works in one of those offices, he said Homeland Security came in there early last month and put up bullet proof glass on the windows and iron bars, they installed blast proof glass on the doors, and removed the mail drop box slots on the outside of the building.
When he asked what was going on they identified themselves as Homeland Security and said don't worry about the rest and left. It's coming no doubt about it. Sorry I can't be more positive, but this is what I have heard with my own ears from three independent military member sources in different parts of the country.

[sandnsea]

14. That was then, this is now

I read an article yesterday that things aren't going quite the same in Florida THIS year. People there are realizing the FEMA aid was election bribery.

This is all about proving the private sector and churches can handle emergencies and we don't need no big gubmint.

[newswolf56]

15. Applying the objective analysis of class struggle, what is happening...

in New Orleans is merely an extreme and therefore especially grotesque manifestation of the policy of genocide-by-neglect expressed in the Bush Administration's methodical savaging of the social safety net. Fixed-income elderly, disabled people and the poor in general use up money that would otherwise be available to the oligarchy. In other words, every impoverished person killed in New Orleans (or anywhere else) is a bonus to the plutocrats in terms of reduced Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and welfare expenses. This is the real meaning of my signature slogan: "in these times, survival is a revolutionary act" -- literally a blow against the oligarchy.

A more subtle form of the same murderous policy -- that is, the methodical concentration of wealth by the oligarchy -- is expressed by outsourcing, downsizing, wage-reduction, take-backs, the looting of pensions, and skyrocketing prices. The parallel purposes served by wealth concentration are reduction of workers to the degradation of wage slavery (with the workforce "disciplined" by fears of homelessness and starvation) and the imposition of oligarchic tyranny (to suppress any dissent that might arise). What we are seeing in New Orleans -- in the tens of thousands deliberately left behind to die, the subsequent imposition of martial law and the implicit message that property is more important than people -- is not just an object lesson; it is also the future of the United States.

As I have said before, this is the great, nearly cosmic irony of the Bush presidency: elected as Tyrannosauric capitalism's ultimate triumph over New Deal democracy and humanitarianism, Bush has not only rescued Marx from irrelevance but has made the historical truth of class struggle more painfully obvious than ever -- its bitter and undeniable reality evident in every aspect of how and why we are being victimized.

[bbgrunt]

19. great post newswolf.......

the cosmic irony of the Bush presidency aside, will any of us survive to see a genuine revolution?