Communist Party USA endorses democrats in 04!

[leftyandproud]

Ok, aside from the ridiculous stigma attached to the communists, they are turning out to be great people! They realize the need to get Dubya out above all else. If only the damn greens would come aboard, we'd have around 5% of the "3rd party vote" that we need to win. I think if people stopped being closed minded and actually LOOKED at the platforms of the US communist party, they would see we have an incredible amount in common with them. In fact, the progressive caucus which amounts to 30% of the democrats in congress pretty much endorses EVERYTHING in the platform. Can anyone find it for me?


http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/562/1/27/

WHEREAS:

The Communist Party USA meeting in New York City June 28-29, 2003 concluded that the most urgent task facing the working class and its allies in the next 17 months is mobilizing a broad people's coalition to defeat George W. Bush and the ultra-right Republicans in the 2004 elections.

The right-wing extremist, racist and military policies of the Bush administration go beyond the pale and are most dangerous. They have inflicted
on the national and the world a dangerous new doctrine of pre-emptive war.

Already we have witnessed two wars in which thousands have died. Every day, U.S. soldiers and troops die in the occupation of Iraq that will cost $100 billion.

The Bush administration and their ultra-right allies in Congress are waging wars against every gain we have made in the past century – union rights, civil rights, women's rights and civil liberties. In the name of "war on terrorism" they have arrested, detained and deported thousands of innocent immigrants.

They have given trillions in tax cuts to millionaires while funds for vital programs are slashed and federal, state and local deficits skyrocket. Their
policies have pushed the nation deeper into recession with massive layoffs.

Truly, the stakes in this election are enormous.

THEREFORE:

We greet the growing labor and peoples movement organizing to take back America
from the corporate controlled extreme right-wing, in the interests of peace, security, democracy and economic rights.

We call on all who are hurt to join in building the broadest possible all-peoples coalition, relating every issue to the 2004 elections and the number
one priority of defeating George Bush and the Republican majority in Congress.

The success of such a movement will depend on the leadership at the core of labor, racially and nationally oppressed communities and women.

We urge the largest voter turnout possible in this November's municipal elections as a means of rejecting federal priorities and policies which are
starving cities and towns, and to demand full funding to the states by repealing the tax cut tot he rich and drastically cutting the military budget.

We agree that the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride is a great historic development in our country, and pledge full support toward building this powerful multi-racial, labor-community-peace alliance that can shape the debate and turn
out the vote in 2004.

We determine to build and greatly expand the circulation of the Peoples Weekly World, along with Political Affairs and Dynamic, as a newspaper that can serve as educator and mobilizer for all peoples unity to defeat the right-wing.

We invite all those who are angry at the devastation being wrought on our country and the world by the policies of this administration to join the ranks of the Communist Party in the interests of upholding past won gains, and charting the course toward a fair, equitable, just and peaceful society.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

1. Ah well, Lyndon Larouche is a "Democrat" too

I'm sure the Republicans are being endorsed by the Christian Identity and Aryan Nations.

[David__77]

57. Please don't compare the CP with the LaRouche people.

One may disagree with the CPUSA's politcal positions, but I think that they at least are not sectarian and aren't cultishly devoted to a messianic leader. The LaRouche people cannot work in a united front. I don't buy the anti-communist line that all communists are somehow evil.

[Former Republican]

60. Larouche isn't a Communist

He's out-of-touch with realite. He is basically a cult leader. He tends to attract not-so-bright people. They have all this insane conspiracy theories.

The Communist Party is an international party devoted to worker rights.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

62. CPUSA has been a stooge for dictators, and now may as well

be a cult. As the declassified documents show, the CPUSA has never been more than a front for KGB spies, and the CPUSA mouthed the rhetoric of the Soviets without fail all through Stalin's dictatorship and mass murders.

I like their positions, they say many of the right things, but they are and always have been a trap for useful idiots who don't have any clue about their history.

At this point, I assume the CPUSA is run out of Langley.

[Former Republican]

66. Say what you want about Stalin

But I am getting sick of it. Stalin defeated fascism. Besides the CPUSA and all other Communist parties throughout the world were deStalinized after 1953.

The CPUSA is a tool for disenchanted workers.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

71. Stalin was fascism

He just centralized the corporate part into ministries. Stalin and Lenin both did their best to imitate America's Taylorism, as any worker would know.

Commie stooges do nothing but discredit our party, which of course is the point.

[birdman]

77. Stalin murdered about 20 million people

I think that kind of cancels out any positives.

[Lindsay]

2. Interesting find.

And they're right. We need to get as many people as possible focused on getting the radical right out of power.

[leftyandproud]

15. bump

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. our local

crackpots on AOL found about it, and were smacked down by many of us.

It was almost comical.

THE COMMIES ARE COMMING, the COMMIES ARE COMMING....

I mean one of them even said that this was a plan
from the Commintern in Moscow.

For the record they did fund the US Communist party, but these
days they don't have money for paper clips in the Moscow
office, let alone parties on the other side of the globe.

[Aidoneus]

4. they have for some time now

having long abandoned the struggle in favour of maintaining bourgeois-class rule instead, as is the typical preference of Stalinist parties. The irony is that for all of the hysterical demonization by rightwing propagandists, they are often quite useful to the ruling parties.

[Kamika]

5. great

wish the greenies would see the light too

[Syrinx]

6. But why can't they just shut up?

There is no way this can be helpful.

[Aidoneus]

7. actually, it is

their facade helps to disorient and neutralize potential left-opposition, thus ensuring the maintainance of the status quo. I hold that against them, but Democratic Party loyalists and the interests they serve should be pleased at the service provided.

[starroute]

8. I'd love to vote for the Democratic nominee on a 3rd party ticket

When I was growing up in New York City, my parents often voted that way. There were a lot of minor parties, and they often endorsed the Democratic candidates for president or governor while running their own people for local offices. By voting for the Democrat on the third party line, you got to send a message to the Democratic Party that it needed to sit up and pay more attention, but still make sure that a Republican didn't get elected as a result.

If I have the option, I'd gladly vote for the Democratic nominees in 2004 on the Communist ticket. It feels exactly right for the situation.

[JVS]

9. The Communist party has been endorsing Democrats for quite some time.

[Mairead]

10. It's the 'centrists' and 'moderates' who aren't coming on board, not

the commies, socialists, and greens. The 'centrists' and 'moderates' want another guy who'll give the wealthy elites as many free Lucky Dip tickets as they like. They're the ones who are refusing to sign up for an honest Dem program like Dennis's.

[sleipnir]

18. Here, here,

Though, the more "left" the Dem party goes, the more I see that it may divide us into a permanent three party country. If the mods and the centrists don't want in, it looks like in 10 or so years they might split and form a different party.

[_NorCal_D_]

11. Great!

If only the Green party could swallow their vanity...:(

[FlemingsGhost]

12. Who said irony is dead?

Oh right... it's the Communist Party that is dead.

(edited for clarity)

[Cheesehead]

13. I'm a Democrat - not affiliated with the Communist Party in any way

but I received a very comprehensive position booklet from them called "For Peace and Democracy - Bush Out 2004" by Sam Webb.

The publication details an inclusive program citing issues like national health insurance, comprehensive affirmative action, a shorter workweek, rebuilding of cities and rural communities, protection of reproductive rights, quality integrated education for all, rights for immigrants, peaceful foreign policy, etc.

The only indication that this is a Communist Party mailing as opposed to a Democratic one is an occasional reference to "class struggle" which is a pretty mild reference considering the class warfare we are really fighting with the BFEE & Co..

The Commies want Whistle Ass out as much as we do and are looking for unity in the struggle.

[leftyandproud]

14. I think..

if we can get 90% of the communist and socialist vote, it will give us the push we need to oust Bush next year...EASILY
I hope the demo party leadership can make OFFICIAL ties with these groups. We are all united against the right.

[Cocoa]

16. how is this going over at CU?

Communist Underground.

Anyone whining about "pink-tutu Commies"?

[sangh0]

24. LOL!!

Thanks for the chuckles!

[MSchreader]

17. The CPUSA has been backing Democrats since 1936

With the singular exception of their support to the Progressive candidate in 1948 (name escapes me at the moment). Even when they ran their own candidates, the CPUSA refused to present a challenge to the Democrats. It has been a part of their policy since 1935 to support the Democratic Party, as the American expression of the "People's Front"/"Anti-Monopoly Front"/"All-People's Anti-Monopoly Coalition"/etc.

Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to try to convince those to the left of the CPUSA -- which is just about every other group except Social Democrats USA and the Democratic Socialists of America -- that there is something worth voting for in the Democratic candidate.

Martin

[leftyandproud]

20. double bump

[RichM]

37. Henry Wallace was the '48 Progressive candidate.

Hi Martin! :hi:

[David__77]

59. True and untrue.

The CP ran its own candidates in many races--I know that from 1972 to 1984 they had a presidential candidate. In '36 through '44 too. They were still reeling from McCarthyism between those periods. Dukakis I think was their first straight-up endorsement of a Democratic presidential candidate.

That said, the CPUSA was very supportive of the left thrust of the New Deal, and formed the army that implemented FDR's agenda. Wallace represented a left New Deal leader, and hence was their choice in '48.

[screaming_meme]

19. Communists have a bad rap

Run a few hundred gulags and pogroms, and no one lets you forget it. Can't we just move on?

[wickerwoman]

74. Gulags were invented by the capitalist/imperialist British

transporting prisoners to Georgia and Australia (something you seem either to have forgotten convienently enough or never learned- what does that tell us about the memory hole?). Pograms were around for a _long_ time before the communists and Marx argued that anyone who was anti-Semitic was being suckered by the ruling classes using race as a wedge issue.
Neither gulags nor pograms were invented by the communists and neither is an inevitable result of communism.

[einsteins stein]

21. The Communist Party will never be viable in America

but I'll take their support, and any other fringe party, extreme ideologist, or independent voice--as long as it will get rid of that damned Bush.

After all, we teamed with Stalin to take out Hitler and Hirohito.

[Former Republican]

22. It is very good that the Communist Party is endorsing us!

I feel very close to Communists because my grandparents were them and were also in La Resistance against the Nazi Imperialists.

It is a shame that the SWP, the PLP, and other Trotskyist-Socialist parties and the Green Party are still against us. This is probably because Trotskyists and Greens are usually college students whose parents have money. You won't have labor men and women voting for them.

[Loyal]

23. I agree with that assessment

n/t

[JohnKleeb]

25. I can see why you are a former republican

Just of curiousity its very interesting that you went right intially now you are one of the good guys, because you said your grandparents were communists, also seeing what many in the GOP said about your ancestral land had to get you mad, I know the resistance helped out big in WWII. I dont have any French in me or communist blood but youre right this is good, also I had family members in Slovenia who resisted the nazis too.

[Iverson]

26. incorrect

"This is probably because Trotskyists and Greens are usually college
students whose parents have money. You won't have labor men and women voting for them."

I can't speak for Trotskyists, but the caricature about Greens is simply wrong. You are interested in accuracy, aren't you?

[Former Republican]

28. How is wrong? If their futurewas on the line they'd be voting DEMOCRAT n/t

[sangh0]

29. I'm interested in accuracy

Can you give some cites about the demographics of the Green Party's membership?

[Rich Hunt]

47. wrong question

Someone else made an assertion about the membership. It is up to them to prove that it is correct.

Since there are no stats on this as far as I know, all we have to go on are our personal experiences with Greens. I'm sure Iverson is basing her / his conclusions on experience.

[sangh0]

55. I disagree

Someone else made an assertion about the membership. It is up to them to prove that it is correct.

And someone else said they were incorrect. That person now has an obligation to prove *their* words are correct, which can only be done if they have the #'s. If they don't, then the proper response would have been to ask for proof, not to claim they are wrong because if the responder does not have the #'s, then how did they know the first claim was incorrect?

[LevChernyi]

56. membership or 2000 Nader voters?

[_NorCal_D_]

41. Iverson, it's a partially fair assessment.

The majority of green party members are young people, primarily college students. I've experienced this first hand. Sometimes I think there are more greens at my school than Dems and Repugs combined!

(Of course this is NorCal I'm talking about :))

[Rich Hunt]

43. true

...all of the Greens I know are over 30 - many of them boomers or older, and they don't have nice corporate jobs.

The ones I know have clerical jobs, one works as an assistant in a hospital, and I know a steelworker who got laid off.

I have not met one Green that fulfills this stereotype.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

27. "Trotskyists and Greens are college students whose parents have money"

you got that right

[revcarol]

31. Around here, we are 14% Green,

and only a few of those are students.

Great generalization to further marginalize them and irritate them so they won't even consider the Democratic Party again. <sarcasm>

As for the Communists, it seems they are just calling class warfare "the class struggle." Tell all the low-paid workers that life is not a struggle because of our tax policies, giveaways and special treatment of huge corporations, and lack of the basic human necessities like health care.

Since many Dems have been complicit in this, it behooves us to examine our own house before we throw stones.

[Former Republican]

33. If they;re not college students...

then they are employed in the service sector and/or are reasonably well-off and insanely degenerate.

This is just all the Greens I know.

I would vote Communist before I vote Green.

[Rich Hunt]

49. the "service sector"?

In my experience, people who work in "the service sector" are not at all well-off. It is a mostly non-unionized and working-class existence.

Unless you define the "service sector" differently.

[MSchreader]

32. Other left organizations

It is a shame that the SWP, the PLP, and other Trotskyist-Socialist parties and the Green Party are still against us. This is probably because Trotskyists and Greens are usually college students whose parents have money. You won't have labor men and women voting for them.

It's not "college students whose parents have money" that, in the main, abstain from voting. It's working people who do not see that their lives will be made any better by a Democratic president than a Republican one.

Eight years of Clinton really didn't help. The jobs they saw created were either out of their reach, or a bunch of low-wage service sector jobs. At the same time, social services were cut, the cost of healthcare spiraled out of control and the mass privatization of education began.

Is it any wonder that 60 percent of the population "voted with their feet" in the last election?

And while you're welcome to poke at the Trotskyists and Greens (people I know quite well), you cannot explain that 60 percent. You also cannot explain the working people of non-Trotskyist groups like the Socialist Party, who will be deciding in two weeks whether or not to run a candidate (and likely will). They are precisely the "labor(ing) men and women" -- teachers, autoworkers, transport workers, service-sector workers, low-wage industrial workers, etc. -- you say will automatically vote Democratic.

Nothing is automatic. People want something to vote FOR, not merely something to vote AGAINST.

Martin

[Former Republican]

34. I do not want to hear it about the Socialist Party

The Socialist Party of the United States is not even part of the Socialist International.

I'm not even going to mention their support of the anti-Communist purges of the 1950s.

Workers would vote for a Democrat because a Democrat is better than a Republican. Having 5%vote farther to the left would not change a thing because the corporations pay pour the campaigns.

[Terwilliger]

76. heh

Workers would vote for a Democrat because a Democrat is better than a Republican.

Now THAT's a joke. :crazy:

If it were so true, why don't all workers vote Democrat?

[LevChernyi]

44. that's hillarious

As much as I find the idea that the Trotskyists put up the good fight against totalitarianism laughable after Trotsky himself dismantled the Soviets and built the underpinnings of the security state dungeon, you don't even want to be identified with them. As a democrat you apparently identify more the unrepentant Stalinists.

[durutti]

30. The CPUSA Has Long Endorsed Democrats

They supported FDR, Bill Clinton, and Al Gore, too.

[Zuni]

35. I will never trust the CPUSA---

When my Russian grandparents were watching their neighbors,families and friends being hauled off to gulags in Siberia by Stalin's NKVD, the CPUSA was sending useful idiots to tell stories back home about how great it was over there. My grandmother grew up and expierienced true famine more than once, but these Communist party dupes went over there and said there was no famine and everything was perfect. Hundreds of these monkeys went over there and wrote glowing tributes to Stalin, wrote that no famine, no brutality, no enslavement was going on. They must have been stepping over emaciated corpses of innocent victims. Their reports even made it into the NY Times. it was worse than modern holocaust denial, as the slaughter was still going on.
Then in 1939 Communists all over the world began to preach non-intervention in WWII--Earl Browder railed against british Imperialism, preached isolationism along with the other Pro-German communists.(this was between the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of August 1939, officially a non-agression pact but secretly an alliance--and the Nazi invasion of the USSR in june 1941) It was until June 1941 that the Communists of Europe and the US joined the fight against Hitler.
For 60 years, the CPUSA was funded from moscow and did exactly what Moscow told them to do. The CPUSA was even looked down on from Commies in Europe because they always towed the Moscow line.

[Former Republican]

38. Excuse you

The Communist Party sheltered hundreds of thousands of Jews, saved Eastern European workers from Fascism and Monarchism, and helped workers gain rights.

Because your grandparents suffered under Communism does not mean that the Communist struggle was not useful to the have-nots.

[Rmilat]

45. So that makes slaughtering millions ok?

You can't even accept a real life fact about what it was like under communism, all you do is dismiss it. I guess to all you libs, the ends do justify the means, and millions can die for your cause, but let one soldier die in Iraq or Afghanistan and you all scream bloody murder just because of Bush. Can't have it both ways, and the American public is waking up to all your BS.

[Rmilat]

36. Communists?

Guess Ann Coulter was right, communists are and have been in control of the Democrat party since the cold war started. Is that why you all bash her as a liar, cause she actually has it right and it scares the heck out of you that you have been figured out? You all have confirmed in this thread your love for communism and communists. Just proving what we on the right have always said....You are all nothing but a bunch of anti-capitalistic, anti-American, communists pigs...I guess the truth hurts!!!!

[Former Republican]

39. I hope that you are being sarcastic

I could not give a shit what Ann Coulter thinks. She supports the deaths of millions of people because it makes her feel good. The Communist Party is trying to promote peace.

Who's the bad guy?

[Rmilat]

42. Peace?

Communists have killed and are still killing millions of people on this earth, where have you been? Have you no brain to remember history? Communism has never been and will never be peaceful, and you are fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Pick up a History book and read about Lenin and Stalin, as well as many others.

And what people has Ann said she would like to see killed? Let's see specific quotes. And if she has lied, then sue her. Since you don't, as you know you can't, cause she can back it all up with facts which you all never do.

You all love to blame the right for the things you all do all the time.

[Former Republican]

46. Ann Coulter

supported the terrorist-worthy, "shock and awe" bombing of Iraq done to scare the Iraqi civilians into overturning their government. She also praises Pinochet.

Because I don't do things behind people's back, I'll tell you right now that I have reported you for your disgusting post. You literally make me sick.

[Rmilat]

50. I see can't handle honest discussion!!

All you want to hear is your point of view, and you call us intollerable. Who's being intollerable now...I guess you would get sick of someone hanging you with your own words thru all of your commie posts on here...

Truth must really hurt....

Report me cause I disagree with you, that is the only answer any of you have as you have NO facts to back up anything.

[Former Republican]

52. I would actually

want there to be a forum for debate with idiots at DU, but the rules prohibit any far-rightists like you to post. It's my duty to report.

[_NorCal_D_]

51. You're right.

Communist leaders are vile extremists, however much of Communist ideology is well intended.

[Former Republican]

53. I hope you know

that you're saying that to a freeper. Read his next posts.

[_NorCal_D_]

54. Yeah, I know.

I just like to toy with them.
:)

[LevChernyi]

58. I'm not even going to bother with Coulter's trash

I did read it and if it impressed you, you have a dangerous ignorance of American history, much less world history if some of that bullshit didn't make your eyes pop out of your head with the way she lied with the footnotes.

Try Black Book of Communism. It's sensationalist, red-baiting, and wildly overexagerates things but it's literate and shooting holes in it's more wild accusations and the implication of what some of his list of victims actually means if you apply the same sort of standard to capitalism is instructive.

[FDRrocks]

72. Communists have killed and are still killing millions of people

And what are Capitalists doing? LOL

[_NorCal_D_]

48. Hmmm.

I'm neither anti-capitalistic nor anti-American.

[tom_paine]

40. So, the KKK/CCC support the Emperor*

Each Party has it's ultra-extremist followers.

Such as Tim McVeigh, The Perfect Republican.

[David__77]

61. KKK not CPUSA.

CPUSA is not at all comparable to the white chauvinists and terrorists. While the Klan was lynching people, the CPUSA was the only party fighting for anti-lynching laws and the only party to decry outrages like the "trial" of the Scottsboro Boys. I think that whatever negatives for the CPUSA, they are in a different universe than the evil KKK.

[tom_paine]

64. true, David, but I was refrring to the extremism of their respective

ideologies

[donotpassgo]

65. How many endorsements have the GOP picked up from...

The Southern Independence Party
The American Nazi Party
The Prohibition Party
The Knights Party
The Christian Falangists???????????

[birdman]

63. Oh this is just great news

The organization representing the 10 remaining idiots
who consider themselves Communists (six of whom probably
won't even vote because they consider voting to be a part
of the inherently corrupt capitalist system) has endorsed the
Democrats. This is the kind of news that makes Karl Rove
come in his pants.

Gee, maybe we can get Al Qaida to endorse the Democrats.

:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

[Former Republican]

69. How dare you compare Al Qaeda to the Communist Party

This is absurd things to say.

[birdman]

73. Their endorsement would be of equal value

An endorsement from the CPUSA gains the party no
votes and allows righties to revive the old
"Dems are really commies" claim.

Sheesh.

[chadm]

67. Then I guess they aren't Communists, are they.

.

[Mass_Liberal]

68. Communism is a noble ideology

LaRouchism is anti-semitic bullshit.

[Former Republican]

70. "Larouche is antisemitic bullshit" I agree! Nocomparisonb/wCP&Larouchen/ t

[GreenInNC]

75. Green Party can't come aboard

We can't come aboard and keep our ballot access in many states. The Democrats and Republicans have made it so we have to run a candidate to maintain our place for candidates farther down the list. If we do not run a candidate in California, we lose access for four years and no one can run as a Green and everyone who is registered Green automatically become unaffiliated.

If you could get the Democrats who control many Legislatures in the US to change the rules, I am sure many Greens would come aboard.

[Terwilliger]

78. They don't want the rules changed

they are purposefully trying to exclude Greens

http://www.fair.org/articles/compromised-commission.html