Splinterists: you realize you're partly responsible for the flood, right?

[LoZoccolo]

Had you not been making the senseless and irresponsible argument that there was no difference between Gore and Bush* in 2000, complaining about NAFTA when there was a net increase of jobs during Clinton's presidency and the like, Bush* would not have been installed as president and there likely wouldn't have been these FEMA and Army Corps of Engineers cuts (oh, you mean there IS a difference?).

Take some responsibility and cut out the show-off Clinton bashing and do your job in not letting this happen again.

[Teaser]

1. Jesus you are a broken record.

Go soak your head.

[aquart]

2. You're still trying to talk to those idiots?

They still think their hands are pristine.

[KittyWampus]

3. this is really unnecessary and perhaps terribly unwise

[LoZoccolo]

7. I agree it was unwise for them to do what they did.

That's why I think it's important to acknowledge that there is a difference between the parties and not to go around lying about it.

[lateo]

4. How low can you stoop to try to take a stab at people who...

don't share your opinion?

[LoZoccolo]

9. That's what I'm saying to the splinterists, yes.

To them it might not look like there's a difference, but look who suffers when people don't acknowledge one.

[lateo]

17. Welcome to my ignore list dickweed.

You are the only person on it.

[LoZoccolo]

19. Do you know the true meaning of "dickweed"?

You might not use that word so readily if you did.

[lateo]

26. That word has more than one meaning.

In popular culture it has become a derogatory term.

[sniffa]

29. .

[kick-ass-bob]

37. you truly do have the mind of a 10 year old, don't you?

[Catherine Vincent]

5. Just ignore the Clinton bashers.

[JackDragna]

6. On behalf of Louisiana, go to hell.

If you seriously think Al Gore would have been much better, you need your head examined. The nincompoop, cowardly Democrats who marched lock-step with the president in promoting the war, the Patriot Act and the rest of it would not have prepared New Orleans any better. None of the Democrats I know here feel much of anything would have been any different in terms of preparedness with Gore in charge. Go to hell.

[moddemny]

8. "If you seriously think Al Gore would have been much better"

So you are satisified having Bush at the helm?

[JackDragna]

12. Did I say that?

No. I didn't. You and the rest of the idiot Nader-bashers should realize Gore lost because he ran a mealy-mouthed, ineffectual campaign. The people who patted the man on the back and smiled as he pulled the Republican-lite act are infinitely more to blame for this tragedy than any Nader supporter. You gave the people a choice between a Republican and a Republican and they took the Republican. Congratulations.

[LoZoccolo]

14. So there's no difference or there is a difference?

I don't get what you're saying.

Here, today, we are seeing a difference that you people said wasn't there.

[JackDragna]

18. There's a difference..

..I meant to say I'm not happy with Bush in power. But, considering the nature of Gore and the rest of the do-nothing Democrats at the national level, I'm not fully convinced Gore would have done much better. Of course, there's the ultimate point that the man lost his own election and that the International World Worker's Party took enough of Gore's votes in Florida to tip the election, but hey, I'm not expecting you or anyone else to go after the Communists. Go beat your drums.

[moddemny]

28. "but hey, I'm not expecting you or anyone else to go after the Communists"

I always point out to Communists the damage they do to the cause (along with the fact defending communist dictatorships is reprehensible in and of itself among other things).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4386849#4395096

[moddemny]

36. Did you say that?

Hmmm, how else does one interpret the following quote?

"If you seriously think Al Gore would have been much better, you need your head examined."

Your quote does imply there is no difference between Bush and Gore.

[Don Claybrook]

10. shut the fuck up

Who is it you want to blame for this? WHO? Go the fuck ahead, tell me again.

[LoZoccolo]

11. You have to ask me nicely.

And I'll add that you probably wouldn't be so upset if you didn't know that people think I'm right.

[Don Claybrook]

21. Please don't ever attempt to speak to me again

I wouldn't be so upset if you weren't trying to blame progressives for agony and death that is happening right this very second. I've been here since 2001, and as I recall, you've been here about the same amount of time, more or less. So I'm really surprised about this.

But I'll tell you, I think you are being really ghoulish. I'm questioning whether you have a soul, a conscience. I believe you, sir, are part of the problem. I believe that you are far too soulless and calculated for me to ever speak to again. I believe that you need to try really hard to reconnect to the humanity you once had.

That is all.

You may now have the last word, because I refuse to deign to speak to you ever again. So give it your best shot; tell me all about how you're right. I'm far too disgusted to reply again.

[LoZoccolo]

30. I'm not blaming progressives.

I'm taking some liars to task for the results of their actions.

[K-W]

13. You should be ashamed of yourself. EOM

[KG]

15. Oasis fans: he's talking to you.

:rofl:

[charlie]

16. Har!

:thumbsup:

[WhollyHeretic]

20. I voted for Gore and Kerry and think think this is an absolutely

disgusting thread. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting such garbage.

[jsamuel]

23. Agreed, same here (no vote for Gore though, I was absent)

[Thtwudbeme]

24. Yep it's shit.

I imagine it'll be locked shortly or it's going to get uglier than the OP probably intended.

[Individualist]

35. It's a sick obscenity

[LoZoccolo]

25. All I am doing...

...is calling to the forefront an important difference between the parties that some people thought it was cute or funny to intentionally gloss over so that this doesn't happen again. To forbid people to acknowledge this difference is like forbidding people from criticizing Bush* for his budget cuts which may have had a part in this.

[Armstead]

22. Nature is responsible for the flood

Bush is responsible for being so slow and callous in his response.

The "centrist" Democrats are responsible for not getting the point 5 years ago about the dangers of corporatism, and waging issueless campaigns.

"Splinterists" my ass.

[kick-ass-bob]

27. This is utter crap.

Live in the past a little, why don't you.

Grow the fuck up.

[LoZoccolo]

31. I don't think it's fair...

...to do something that has consequences in the far future, and when those consequences occur, accuse the people that point out things that led to them as living in the past.

[kick-ass-bob]

34. People are SUPPOSED TO VOTE for who they think is the best candidate for

them. That is the way democracy is supposed to work.

There are so many reasons why Bush ended up in the White House, to single only one of them out is childish at best.

I repeat: Grow up.


PS - I voted for Gore, and I still think people who voted for Nader were not wrong.

[Just Me]

32. Lovely. Just fuckin' lovely.

:yoiks:

[Name removed]

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[The Magistrate]

38. Locking

Flamebait.