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LeftyElvis Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:22 AM
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I Understand the looting for essentials
but why the violence?


"The lawlessness has spilled into the West Bank of Orleans and Jefferson parishes, where looters Thursday ransacked the Oakwood Mall in Terrytown and set it afire." New Orleans Picuyne.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:22 AM
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1. Read this interview from the mayor.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:31 AM
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5. thank you.
wow. :(
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:39 AM
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8. OMFG people are STILL calling him from thier atics & their up to their
necks in water. It's FRIDAY. Here come the tears again
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:23 AM
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2. There are bad people everywhere
It's still no excuse that all these people are left to die at the convention center and the superdome.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:25 AM
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3. Who knows? Addicts. Mental patients without meds. Desperation.
Frustration. Anger. Maybe they think a fire at a mall will get a rescue response that ordinary civilians are being denied. Who really knows? :shrug:
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:28 AM
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4. Why are you even focused on this when people are still dying?
This is a very small segment of the people trapped there that is engaged in this behavior. Did you not look at the video from the convention center and dome. Did most of those people look engaged in lawless violence?

These people were probably criminals before this happened and will be afterward. There is a criminal element in any major metro area. Societal controls, like cops, keep them in check somewhat. The barriers break down and they run amok. No big shock.

The real question is why it took so long for the cavalry to arrive to regain control? The city was abandoned for days. If the NG was there right away, the situation would not escalated to the level that it has.

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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:33 AM
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6. Didn't NO have trouble evacuating
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 11:35 AM by DanaM
the jails too? I thought I read that there were prisoners and guards stuck on an overpass? I was married to a covert criminal (abuser, drug user, petty thief--never arrested for anything), whenever he had the opportunity he gratified his criminal tendencies. He is the white upper-middle class son of a white ILEC telephone executive. D ; )
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LeftyElvis Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:38 AM
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7. Because
if you are burning down businesses you are unemploying that much more.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:41 AM
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9. Right.
They should be filling out applications.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:54 AM
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13. Those businesses are a total loss given the sewage, water, and silt
No stores are going to open anywhere anytime soon. They're predicting cholera due to the flood waters, sewage and dead, rotting bodies of people and animals. Do you honestly believe any stores there will ever re-open without being completely rebuilt? The health issues alone make the employment issue moot.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:43 AM
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11. Maybe because it HINDERS rescue efforts and because the
violence is one MORE disaster for the survivors, just like disease and dehydration.

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:42 AM
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10. DO you think the violence would have ensued were people not at
wit's end? YOu sit in a hot bathtub in 90 degree weather for five days with no news and no resources knowing you live in a nation that can drop a fucking bomb through a peephole but can't or won't SAVE people and let's see how peaceful you remain.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:45 AM
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12. But the sad fact is, they'll be viewed as "hooligans" and shot on sight
My family comes first and if I need to steal to survive, then I will. But I run the risk of being shot dead on sight for such an attitude by "battle-hardened" troops just back from Iraq. And my death would be telecast by the Corporate Media, hungry for the "if it bleeds, it leads" story, and I'll be made to look like some rabid, dangerous criminal.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:01 PM
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14. Oh, look! It's another post from Lefty Elvis!
Hi, Lefty Elvis!


:hi:
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:21 PM
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15. I understand the fact that Bush likes vacations but why abandon
tens of thousands of people to die of thirst and starvation?
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