I thought this might bring *Bush* down, but now I'm back to the reality

[Ron Green]

of just how carefully managed is the Message by the RW propaganda machine. He arrives on the scene, help starts to happen, heads roll (but not his).
:mad:

[Libby2]

1. It won't

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. People are PISSED. The cavalry hurrah is going to be very short-lived....

Too many died who did not need to. And then there has been the mismanagement of the evacuees..families separated....

Then we will have a huge economic downturn as part of the aftermath.. and all these people will need homes and jobs and food and money....

The anger over this will not subside any time soon. Most of the media is awake and asking all the right questions.

And for the cherry on top: the Plame indictments.

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Save New Orleans, then save this country!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm

[Lars39]

3. Read this post by Judy Lynn:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1746253&mesg_id=1747021

[Mountainman]

4. Only if people buy it. I think they might be smarter this time.

The problem in the past is people saw Bush as the victim but now I think they understand that this shit is all a matter of incompetence and not something that happened to poor George. The media will play it that way.

They will use the 9/11 play book and take advantage if this disaster to try and bring his poll numbers back up. But the cause of the lack of aid has been the Iraq war which is Bush's war.

[Ron Green]

5. But the way to play that is, "the Iraq war didn't sap our resources, see?

They're here, after all. It was the incompetence of (name of expendable civil servant here) that caused the delay, and the President fixed it."

[Michydem]

14. 5 days too late...5 days too late....5 days too late...nt

[newyawker99]

32. Hi Michydem!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[VolcanoJen]

6. Expect to see Bush hugging those women on the cover of Time.

And Newsweek.

[Ron Green]

8. Exactly. And how unfortunate that it will do the trick.

Any finger-pointing after the fact will be easily dealt with by the RW scream machine as "politicizing the grief of the victims."

[myrna minx]

9. He'll be Time mags Man of the Year.

Just you watch. History is being rewritten right before our eyes.

[aden_nak]

7. Yeah, there was a moment where I was riding a wave of vitriol and hope.

But I can feel it drawing back into the ocean. It sounds to me like the network execs finally got on the earpiece with their anchors and journalists and told them to fall in line.

[elehhhhna]

10. He can pat himself on the back all day. Can't ignore this fact:

[AlCzervik]

11. no, it doesn't matter what they say this time, the pictures

and the federal non-response tells the story. People everywhere are outraged.

[durablend]

13. Pictures and videotape can be destroyed

And their existance denied.

[AlCzervik]

15. not this time----this is burned into the memories of everybody

[sexybomber]

17. True.

That very picture took up the entire front page of this morning's NY Times.

[Stephanie]

16. these pictures should be enough >

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4550031

[Blue_In_AK]

12. The devastation and the horror of New Orleans

are etched in people's minds. There is nothing the "prez" can do at this point to erase that. Maybe if his little photo op had happened on Monday or Tuesday, but not today. Too little, too late.

[SOS]

18. Respectfully disagree

Bush has been a failure at everything he has ever done.

Failure at Yale and Harvard.
Failure during Vietnam.
Failure in business - bankrupted three oil companies.
Failure in Iraq.

Yet all of these failures have been either overlooked or rationalized by the general public and the media.

Today we have thousands dead and dying in an American city.
Despite billions spent on "Homeland Security" the government can't get a bottle of water into downtown New Orleans. People are realizing that if disaster strikes, they're on their own.
Bush was "elected" on security issues and now we all see there is no security.
Add to this debacle a $4 gallon of gas and you have the end of the political career of George W. Bush.

It's over.

[Ron Green]

21. I so want to believe it, and I've hoped and prayed for it, but somehow

they always spin it just right. I hope I'm wrong in my pessimism this time.

[Corgigal]

22. they're on their own.

You're correct on this. All of us now know we have a Govt who feels no responsibility to it's citizens. We just started September and it appears another Hurricane is being made. It's not a good feeling.

[Arugula Latte]

23. And failure to listen to warnings of 9-11

(or else LIHOP)

[noahmijo]

27. Respectfully AGREE

There's just no way at this point he can rise above the ashes. As I said political jinoisms involving the constant use of the word "freedom" will not fly this time. Even the most insane blind bush follower cannot cringe everytime he fills up his SUV or whenever a freeper mother looks at the pictures of AMERICAN children suffering and being tortured by the situation with no assistance and no help and how long now has this administration had to prepare for this disaster? remember the security mom vote for Bush? this is their payoff.

[TheDonkey]

19. usually I would agree, but he's been too late to the party of propaganda

the media and American sentiment is already twisted against him. The devestation that is being seen by so many people for 4 days is too great to ignore. He's minimizing his fall by the folksy photo-ops but he's not saving himself.

[julialnyc]

20. write cnn and say how disgusting that photo-op was

keep them reporting without the guidance of the pr machine

[gauguin57]

24. Well, the Freepers are loving the photo op!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475499/posts?q=1&&page=1185#1185

"The press conference he's having now is very strong.
People know he cares. Locals will remember that he came and expressed what he was doing and going to do alleviate their suffering."

[durablend]

26. Afraid so...

Anyone in the media that strays will get the "liebural media" slur labeled on them again ("how come the lieberal media doesn't show what GOOD we're doing") repeatedly until they get back in line.

Oh well...

[thereismore]

25. I am very relieved myself that help is arriving.

After the worst is over and people are saved, Bushturd will STILL be late. Questions will not stop this time. Too bad he is not up for reelection. Murderer.

[demo dutch]

28. Realization will set in how unprepared this govt is for disasters

and the death toll not finalized. Ramifications of the total shutdown of NO for the nation's economy will be huge ! Investigations will start. Don't worry it will be a slow process & 2006 election are not that far away!

[JugDack]

29. I agree - he'll get a big bounce out of this.

I think the country will rally behind him no matter what he says as long as it looks like things are (finally) getting done. Even more so, since it seems to have turned around just as he showed up (what a coincidence!).

Rove, Cindy, Iraq, etc. will all be forgotten. People want to support the president in times of emergencies, just like 9/11. Unless he says something BEYOND stupid, like Hastert "bulldozing" remark, he'll get a big boost out of this.

Already the media are packaging the pics of him hugging people and "taking charge". Watch his poll numbers climb!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

30. All the 'timing' and 'message/image management' in the world can't

change the fact of the people who have died and are dying of thirst because of half a week without water, where the sudden arrival of help will still not be able to save them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. people ain't buying what they are selling

[Opusnone]

33. I'd like to be a fly on the wall

In the meeting between chimp and the mayor