Junior claims the levee broke Tuesday. Wasn't it Monday night when the

[Nikki Stone 1]

first one broke? (THere were two of them.) I remember talking about it on DU Monday night, unless a lack of sleep is making me mix up the days.

[bloom]

Seems like I had heard

it was around midnight Monday - which Bush would conveniently call Tuesday.

[Nikki Stone 1]

5. I remember that too. By Tuesday everything was flooded.

If someone had a DU thread from Monday night, that would be great.

[Nikki Stone 1]

1. kick for an answer

:kick:

[bpilgrim]

35. Mon. 29 Aug: 11:15 a.m.: Levee Breached At Industrial Canal - WDSU

"11:15 a.m.: Levee Breached At Industrial Canal
There's been a levee breach at an industrial canal in the 9th Ward in St. Bernard Parish. When this occurs, water rises rapidly, so residents should be extra alert to the threat of rising water. There are reports of 8 feet of water spilled out because of the breach. There is also heavy street flooding throughout Orleans, St. Bernard and Jefferson parishes. A WDSU crew drove around the city and some streets look like flowing rivers. Also, earlier reports of an apartment collapse in Jefferson Parish are false. It was actually a house that collapsed. -- WDSU.com Web Staff"

http://www.wdsu.com/weather/4908558/detail.html

peace

[KharmaTrain]

37. Excellent Catch, Billy!

Still more rope to hang the bastard...we could rope the damn moon by now.

Peace...

[Ms. Clio]

38. Thank you thank you I knew I wasn't imagining this

[demo dutch]

2. Monday night!

[Tin Man]

3. first reports of ruptured levees came LATE MON NIGHT

physical breaches probably formed earlier Monday, but communication problems delayed reporting.

edit: my bad, lost track of days when first posted.

[Nikki Stone 1]

7. Before the storm? Do you have a thread reference?

THanks!

[cthrumatrix]

4. if you think bush is a wealth of facts "guess again"

[Ms. Clio]

6. Yes, the water was rising, hundreds on their rooftops by Monday night

And Nancy "No Mercy" Grace was still in Aruba, and all the other cable news networks were pretty much business as usual.

[Nikki Stone 1]

11. I wish I had copies of the WWLTV blog from Monday night

They had the info on the levees before the national media

[Ms. Clio]

25. I know it had happened by the early evening, because I remember thinking

why the hell aren't any of these dumbasses reporting on this as I watched CNN et al. for the first time in years.

[nonconformist]

8. Monday, yes.

He has no fucking idea what is going on. He was in California strumming the guitar for photo ops and attending fundraisers on Monday.

[uncle ray]

22. actually, IIRC monday was cake

the geetar wasn't until tuesday.

same difference i guess.

[nonconformist]

32. Ah yes, you are correct

I get Bush's meaningless schedule confused from time to time.

[speedoo]

9. Correct. It was reported Monday night.

When it actually broke ... I don't know.

[Nikki Stone 1]

26. Anyone have a copy of the news from that night?

Dammit! I wish I had saved those blogs.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

10. Yep...it was very late Monday night.

[tk2kewl]

12. yes... the VP of the hospital was on CNN explain how the water was rising

1" every 5 mins.

[Nikki Stone 1]

14. We ought to remind CNN so he doesn't get away with this inaccuracy

....

[Stephanie]

13. picture thread from Monday >

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4500685

[Nikki Stone 1]

18. Thanks. And that was at 5pm Monday--the pics of flooding were daytime

pictures.

Wish I knew exactly when the levee broke.

[Penndems]

15. It was Monday night when the Industrial Canal levee was breeched

It wasn't discovered until Tuesday morning, however.

[Nikki Stone 1]

20. But I know there was a discussion about one levee breaking on Monday night

I'd like to get the facts right, but the WWLTV blog only covers today.

[AzDar]

16. He's a goddamned LYING treasonous bastard, trying to retro-

actively excuse his inaction that led to many AMERICAN DEATHS!!!
EVERYONE who reads knew this hurricane was going to be a disaster, and this fucking incompetent bastard's administration was caught with their pants down....'Homeland Security' my ASS.
Maybe THIS is what Cheney meant when he said.."If we choose the wrong man for President, we WILL get hit again"....

[sexybomber]

17. The levees broke Monday night...

but the papers ran the story on Tuesday morning. I think Smirky thinks the papers are as current as the network news.

[parasim]

19. This is from Monday morning...

11:18 AM (from Fox, no less)

Shep Smith reporting that Lake Pontchartrain is starting to top over ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4495244

[Nikki Stone 1]

23. Thanks, the concern about the levee and the lake began early AM!

Right after the storm hit.

[ComerPerro]

21. and, just out of curiosity, what was he doing ALL DAY Tuesday?

Oh yeah, vacationing and fund-raising for the GOP.

Hmm...

What a lazy SOB

[Stephanie]

29. funny you should ask >

___________________________________

Mon Aug-29-05

As the hurricane rages, Bush flies to Arizona for a "Conversation on Medicare." Upon landing, he presents John McCain with a birthday cake. He then flies to San Diego to spend the night at the luxury resort Hotel del Coronado, reportedly attending a fundraiser that night.








___________________________________

Tue Aug-30-05

As floodwaters inundate New Orleans and the Gulf Coast reels from the catastrophe, Bush speaks at a VJ-Day ceremony in San Diego. Afterwards singer Mark Wills presents him with a guitar. He then returns to Crawford for the night.








___________________________________


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/

[bloom]

24. 2 block-long breach in Ponchartrain levee ..CNN 11:28 PDT (reported)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1736525#1736624

[Nikki Stone 1]

27. Bless you! We have to remind CNN when it reported the levee breaking

WHo do I contact?

[Ms. Clio]

28. I know there were earlier stories --- because I am quoting above

almost exactly what I read here that evening. If I still had my star, I would look for them.

[Ms. Clio]

34. CNN was about six hours late reporting this -- first info came from local

TV and was posted here.

[Stephanie]

31. CNN article from that link >

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/30/katrina/index.html

Wednesday, August 31, 2005; Posted: 1:01 a.m. EDT (05:01 GMT)

Levee breach reported along lakefront of New Orleans

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- As the death toll from Hurricane Katrina reaches at least 56, a levee holding back the waters of Lake Pontchartrain has reportedly sustained a breach two blocks long in the Lakefront area of New Orleans.

(...)

Karen Troyer Caraway, vice president of Tulane University Hospital, told CNN that Louisiana State Police had confirmed the New Orleans breach to her.

Water at the hospital, located in New Orleans' central business district, was rising at the rate of a foot an hour, she told CNN, and had already reached the top of the first floor.

"It's dumping all the lake water in Orleans Parish," she said. "It's essentially running down Canal Street. We have whitecaps on Canal Street."

"We now are completely surrounded by 6 feet of water, and are about to get on the phone with Federal Emergency Management Agency to start talking about evacuation plans," Caraway said. "The water is rising so fast, I can't even begin to describe how fast it is rising."

She did not know whether any pumps had been turned on to pump the water, but said, "they're not going to be able to compete with Lake Pontchartrain."

[crispini]

30. It was about 1 or 2 am Tuesday morning, so it was late Monday night,

sort of.

I remember. I was awake and watching CNN and freaking out.

Edited to add: nevermind, just read the thread.

[Desertrose]

33. they didn't tell jr til he woke up Tues morning...why bother him at nite

with such a minor detail?!

[Atlas Mugged]

36. Yes!!!!

I'm sick of people acting like this was some kind of fucking surprise. I knew the worst was about to come when the talking heads were yammering about "New Orleans dodged a bullet".