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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:01 PM
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Robert Baer on "Buchanan and Press".
Robert Baer just said that he heard that it was Scooter Libby and the Vice-President that cooked up the leaked story and took it to the President. Just on now (6:53PM). This is sure news to me, although I haven't been here all day.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:02 PM
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1. That was on Buchannan and Press yesterday.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:13 PM
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11. No, Baer wasn't on yesterday.
And the guy that was on yesterday didn't name the VP. Baer did.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 09:00 PM
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24. That was today!
and he did name Cheney and Scooter!

On the Paula Zahn show, Joe Klein also named Cheney's office as being the source of the leak.

This is big and getting bigger!
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:02 PM
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2. did he name dickless?
or just hint?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:05 PM
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4. He did, he also implicated the NSC
political appointees...

Now say it with me folks, THIS IS BIGGER THAN WATERGATE.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:03 PM
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3. Who is this Baer, credentials, access to this information, etc.?
This would be big, pointing right to the office of the President. Witholding cheers.
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lindashaw Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:08 PM
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6. I don't know, but I think I heard him say that an agent named...
Welch, I thought he said was his partner, was killed because he was "outed."
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:10 PM
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8. Ex CIA
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 06:10 PM by Cush
He has a book out:

See No Evil: The True Story of a Ground Soldier in the CIA's War on Terrorism
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:10 PM
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9. Ex CIA officer
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 06:12 PM by Monkey see Monkey Do
worked mid-East terrorism in the eighties & spent part of the nineties in northern Iraq until Chalabi claimed he was plotting with Iranians to assassinate Saddam (which is an extremely short version of a long long story).

Wrote a biography - "See No Evil", and worked with Daniel Pearl for a while on the Pakistan link to al-Qaeda. Has written a second book "Sleeping with the Devil" on Saudi Arabia.

He's often on radio/TV over here (UK) & is a very impressive speaker who knows his subject & I would assume is plugged very much into Langley. Has been very critical of the way the "war on terrorism" has been very politicised & is a strong advocate for increased human intelligence. Mel Goodman (an ex CIA analyst) commented yesterday about how "Baer couldn't be intimidated", referring to his frequent broadsides about the Bush administration's use & abuse of intelligence.
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lindashaw Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:23 PM
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14. So, do these men like Johnson and Baer take their "best guesses"
to the authorities, or do we just hope and pray that the FBI is smart enough to find these things out for themselves?
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:28 PM
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16. I'm sure....
they still have connections, and you gotta wonder if things will be 'slipped' to the FBI?
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:40 PM
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17. My guess (& this really is a guess)
is that the CIA is using retired officers who have a media profile & will be called upon as "experts" to discuss the leak. That is, Baer, Johnson & whoever else are repeating a line originating from the CIA.

I don't think these two men (& I haven't heard Baer on this topic - only Johnson) would both specifically hint (& name in Baer's case) Libby unless they were pretty sure of what they were saying (ie better than an educated guess).

The hope is that the Washington press corps will be smart enough to start looking into Cheney/Libby's role in the Iraq war build up, the "White House Iraq Group" and Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz's "Office of Special Plans" and so forth.

In the same way that "Watergate" was about FAR more than a simple break-in I'm sure that "The Wilson Affair" is a potential key to an ocean of dirty tricks and scandals-in-waiting.
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SWPAdem Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 07:09 PM
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19. Author of "Sleeping With The Devil"
How the US sold it's soul for Saudi crude...

He has written several other books and is connected to the CIA, but I do not know his exact role.
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lindashaw Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:06 PM
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5. Then, in regards to the two staffers that called six journalists...
he said the staffers could have come from the National Security Office. Pat grilled him, and he stuck to his opinions. Amazing!
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:09 PM
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7. Larry Johnson suggested the same thing yesterday
on B&P. Buchanan was trying to figure out who it might have been, based on his experiences in the White House. Johnson, a former CIA agent who was in the same covert training class as Valerie Plame, said he knew who had done it. Buchanan explained his thinking & how he got to Libby and Johnson said, "You'd be on the right track." Johnson appeared Monday night on The Newshour in one of the most damning segments I've seen yet, including his quote: "I'm ashamed to be a Republican."
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:12 PM
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10. Took it the President?
Wow, thats a new twist, yesterday it was just SCooter Libby, while CHeney was 'implied'

Damn, why did I have to shower?
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:15 PM
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12. We here at DU are very happy that you did finally take time to
to take your shower, Cush!!:hug:
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:16 PM
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13. hahahaha
very funy ;-)

Knew I should have waited until 7! lol
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:28 PM
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15. Matthews might mention it.
The other night he reported on what Johnson said on B&P.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:42 PM
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18. Took it to the president? IMPEACH!
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SaintLouisBlues Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 08:23 PM
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20. I hope he's right
kick
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 08:28 PM
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21. If even ONE single murder of a agent can be linked to Plame outing
That's it! Methinks this info might be coming out in due time, my little pretties:smoke:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 08:50 PM
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22. When can we get a transcript of this?
If Dick is going down, do we get to find out about the secret tunnel he's blasting under his house? There's so much I want to know!
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 08:54 PM
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23. Probably up later tonight or tomorrow
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 08:54 PM by Cush
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