MSNBC - Jeb Bush says Dean should be Dem nom.

[janekat]

said sarcastically.

[tjdee]

1. He was being sarcastic.

If this is the same story I heard this morning.

Ugh, are you watching Tweety "I love love love Arnold Schwarzenneger, what scandal" Matthews?

[janekat]

6. After he bragged that he was going to be on musclehead's case

...big phoney.

[JohnKleeb]

2. You know I dont get when they do this

Yes Jeb, Dean is a super liberal on all issues. BTW I hope no matter who the nominee is your brother will be crying on a ranch. I dont think Dean is too left at all.

[donotpassgo]

3. Its called HUBRIS.

Didn't help Macbeth, Hamlet, or Oedipus either.

[karlschneider]

4. And Dean supporters are a tiny minority of hot, angry people.

Well, he was actually right there...I am GODDAMN hot and angry at his pathetic lying bastard brother and just as hot/angry at Jebbie. What an asshole.

[Wetzelbill]

5. I don't think Dean is all that Left

[Bombtrack]

11. right, YOU don't think he is

but he still is an easy frigging opponent without a monumental shift in the electorates views on foreign policy and income taxation. Because most people don't think like either the people on this board or on freerepublic

[stickdog]

14. 53% of Americans now think Iraq was not worth it.

Sorry that your candidate crassy sold out on Iraq just to have that unprincipled move backfire in his face.

Next time perhaps he'll listen to his constituency instead of his Dino Loser Consultants.

[JohnKleeb]

16. Doesnt that give anyone who was anti war a boost now

I hope so, although my candiate didnt get nearly as much as some people did, he still exceeded his goal which is good, and yes I know quanity is important, I am not an idiot.

[stickdog]

20. Yes. Kucinich deserves BIG KUDOS.

He stood up against the BushCo line of shit from Day One!

[JohnKleeb]

24. Thats why I support him he stands up

I know the road to the nomination will be tough but no one said it would be easy.

[janekat]

25. Dean is not THAT anti-war - thinks we should stay in Iraq / AIPAC

to Iraq:

http://www.peaceredding.org/Will%20the%20Real%20Howard%20Dean%20Please%20Stand%20Up.htm
"But more recently, Dean has come under fire from some liberal activists. Some of Dean's foreign policy statements lead them to argue that anti-war stalwart Rep. Dennis Kucinich (Ohio) is a better choice for president.

Dean, for instance, irked some liberals by suggesting that the U.S. military is understaffed in Iraq. Earlier this year, he angered some by suggesting that his views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict were closer to the conservative America-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) than the liberal Americans for Peace Now (APN)."

[Ediacara]

19. oh, and

the completely inexperienced ambulance chaser who can't seem to say anything about anything without talking about the COMPLETELY UNRELATED story growing up on a mill will do better?

EDIT: not that I don't like the guy, but I think he'd be an electoral disaster of monumental proportions, and snark deserves to be responded to with snark.

[janekat]

18. No, he's not but he gets the "rap" because of Vermont's gay unions

thing. Also his statement that "I'm from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party" has given him that label - a lot of people said that was a mistake. That most likely will get played over and over again in the general election - knowing Rove...

He's got a very ususual "mix" of viewpoints - both conservative AND Liberal. A lot of people are confused.


http://www.peaceredding.org/Will%20the%20Real%20Howard%20Dean%20Please%20Stand%20Up.htm
"While he is known as the governor who signed the nation's first statewide gay civil unions bill, his supporters and detractors alike say he did little to push the idea until the state Supreme Court forced the legislature's hand. When pressed on the subject of gay marriage before he signed the bill (in private, by the way) he was quoted as saying: "I'm uncomfortable, just like anybody else."

Dean's last election in 2000 was his toughest and he faced challenges from the left and the right. His Republican challenger, Ruth Dwyer made much of his signing the civil unions bill. And Progressive Party candidate Anthony Pollina, who garnered 10 percent of the vote, attacked Dean relentlessly for abandoning universal health care and prescription drug price controls and for opting out of state's public campaign financing system.

But more recently, Dean has come under fire from some liberal activists. Some of Dean's foreign policy statements lead them to argue that anti-war stalwart Rep. Dennis Kucinich (Ohio) is a better choice for president."


http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.08.22/news3a.html
"But other Democrats think Dean already painted himself into a corner when he adopted the trademark liberal line, "I'm Howard Dean, and I'm from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party," and courted the voters who made him the winner of the online primary of MoveOn.org, a left-leaning organization that organizes grassroots campaigns over the Internet. The progressives who responded to the slogan "tend to be the type of voters who want him to be 110% on every issue," said a strategist for a rival campaign, who likened the slogan and Dean's straight-shooter image to "two logs going in the opposite direction."

....A Chicago activist who says he donated $500 to Dean's campaign has gathered almost 600 signatures on an online petition expressing "deep reservations" about Dean's Middle East positions, which signers consider too pro-Israel."

[janekat]

7. Jebs just a little S.O.B. - always blows his mouth off

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[shance]

8. Youve picked enough elections Jeb.

We'll decide who our candidate is, unless you know how to rig that too.

[Cha]

13. For those interested in what that slimebucket has to say ...

""I'm tired of your agency shit sliding off in my lap, and you telling those Pinko Communist reporters every Goddamned thing they want to know"... "JEB" Bush 7/14/01

http://www.whoseflorida.com


I feel sorry for the People in Florida who just wonder if he will ever go and fuck off.

[janekat]

21. I know we have TWO Bushs - It's not fair

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[Speck Tater]

9. Double psych. Repugs will ...

... publically root for the Dem they're most afraid of, by saying they are least afraid of him, hoping to scare Dem voters away from him.

[janekat]

22. I don't think Jeb thinks before he talks so I wouldn't count on it either

way. Hard to know with him.

[bluedog]

10. I got polled

about 5:00 today...some guy called and asked me about Jebs job..I let him really have it..
then he asked about georgie.I said he should be impeached..then about the FL laws..I told him A recall statue should be put on the books..and all off shore companies should pay their share of taxes..then if not they do not the CEOS should move out of the country...and live where their companies do business....

[janekat]

23. Whoo-hoo! good for you!!!

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[Former Republican]

12. Dean equals

leftist rhetoric, moderate voting.

I don't think he's that unelectable. There's a reason Republicans make such a big deal about him. They wouldn't make such a big deal about Al Sharpton or Dennis Kucinich or any of the moderates, except Clark. It's because they're scared that Dean is going to be so unrestrained in attacking Bush, and the media is slowly falling out of Bush's hand like dust.

[stickdog]

15. Yep. Bush is never worse than when he is on the defensive.

Bullying and spinning is their total game.

[David Zephyr]

17. Jeb's On Drugs With Noelle and Rush in the Sunshine State

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