WI being affected by back up barges in Mississippi (no commerace_

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1. port of LA still closed--Sept is busy month--crops/grain moved down

river.

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3. catastrophe for farmers, and river movers!

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2. this could quite well lead to a depression

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4. coal not going down either.

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5. said will have a ripple effect across the entire economy. all up and

down the Mississippi. i am listening to local Wisc. public TV

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6. WI poverty raising faster than any other state already. (I forget the stat

she put out).

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7. jobs being created are low paying and WI lost lots of manufacturing

jobs.

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9. show trying to show that Katrinia will have ripple effects on lots of part

of the country.

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11. Wal-Mart creates jobs....

but like you said, they're minimum wage retail jobs. And Jr. doesn't get that those don't pay the rent or come with affordable health care benefits.

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8. It's a bad time to have to truck your grain across the country

Fuel-wise, it's a hell of a lot cheaper in barges.

Could St. Louis take it in, and truck/freight train it from there? Don't know what sort of river port St. Louis has. :shrug:

Of course, somebody would have to organize that....damn. Outta luck.

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10. the barges have always been the main source to move grain south then

out for export

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12. Another reason Katrina is the end of American life...

as we have known it. Forever: current economic realities -- outsourcing, downsizing, wage-reduction, pension-looting, wildly skyrocketing prices, methodical destruction of the social safety net -- all prove that no recovery is possible. Why? Because these economic realities demonstrate conclusively that the oligarchy will not allow recovery. Indeed the oligarchy profits obscenely by the reduction of all the rest of us to abject poverty and utter powerlessness: hence the permanence of the worsening conditions now being imposed.


Edit: elaboration.

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13. And I heard yesterday that the increased costs of getting grain

to other places to ship it out will likely make it too expensive for any of the countries to buy it that normally do. SO the midwest will end up fucked with stockpiles of grain.

And, since our government is a piece of shit, we won't even capitalize on our grain surplus by using it to, oh, just for instance, FEED OUR OWN FUCKING PEOPLE.

It will end up rotting, the farmers will either get a tax deduction for it or more likely be told to go fuck themselves by the compassionate conservatives in charge of the government, and the poor and hungry of this country will increase in numbers and Jesus will weep, but the Christofascists will weep tears of joy because gays can't marry and any kind of socialist/communist agenda like giving food to the hungry will have been averted.

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14. One Reason When I Worked On A Lock And Dam Project

two decades ago I decided that we needed a robust rail network. I came to know how complex a mechanism a Lock and Dam is, relative to it's environment, and that just one had to fail to shut down shipping on the Mississippi.

This hurricane has highlighted the fact that our infrastructure, both physical and energy, has few redundant paths.

We, through our Government, have to step in and ensure that adequate excess infrastructure capacity is available. This excess capacity will never be provided by a purely free market system, the goal of which is 100% utilization.