Have you heard people out in public complaining about GWB lately?

[Lefty48197]

Obviusly, we can come in here at anytime, and find lots of criticism of the boy chimp. In the last two days though, I've heard a few people out in public criticizing Jr. heavily, and I haven't had that much contact with strangers in the last couple of days! Yesterday, I was in a Kmart, and I heard a lady about 40 or so talking into her cell phone. "Words just cannot express how much I hate that man... ...all those people who voted for him..."
It was great! She was NOT shy about letting anybody else hear her end of the conversation, and it was quite clear that she was talking about Bush.
Today, I was in a restaurant, and there were three ladies sitting at the table next to me. They ranged from about 50 to about 75 years of age. They were laying it on the chimp too. One of them said something like, "Clinton lied about..." and another added, "Keeping his pants on", but both of them followed up by talking about Bush's pre-invasion lies, and how they had led to the stupid war and all the deaths, etc.

Just these two incidents lead me to believe that there are a LOT of others in this country criticizing our failed leader. Have you heard any similar incidents this past week?

[NMDemDist2]

1. I live and work in bright red AZ and I'm hearing it loud and clear

some about how long the relief took, but plenty about the gas prices

[LisaM]

2. Actually, yes, today on the street

There was a guy talking about how * hustled down to Florida after a hurricane because it was election time, but that he couldn't show up for five days to NOLA.

[Frustratedlady]

5. Everywhere

...but it's been building over the past month or two. Yesterday at exercise, I merely mentioned how slow the help in NO was to the person next to me and set her off for a good half-hour. When she was done, there was no doubt she would never vote Repub again!

[mzteris]

3. except for the most

extreme fundamentalist fanatics around here,

I'm even hearing grumblings from Republicans about why it took bush so long and why it's so messed up and "someone sure dropped the ball" ...

[smurfygirl]

4. yes, in fact the fundies I know have had enough

and they are mad as hell about the photo op today and the blaiming of the mayor after the man was crying on tv and pleading for help.
They are seeing the light...

One said we need a new president.
I am not loathing because it took such a sick and dire situation to get them to see this.

[damntexdem]

6. Yes, and it is often people who previously supported him.

My favorite was a remote hearing: a regular caller to Jerry Springer who noted that he's always supported Bush on Iraq but that Bush's inaction on Katrina made him 'want to puke.'

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

7. In Republican Dallas 'burbs I'm not hearing it. There is definitely an

underlying nervousness to the Bushbots.. I think they are the wife who just found the phone numbers in the husband's jacket.. They can't yet let themselves wrap their mind around the enormity of what it means about Bush, what it means to the country.

I'm still hearing them mostly desparately grasp onto whatever the RW hate radio talking points are. Focusing on the looters, "shoot to kill." Blame all on the Gov and Mayor.

But it is a desparate grasping, not confident at all.

But I'm still not hearing any of them speak the truth about Bush.

[renate]

25. a friend of mine from a Dallas suburb told me yesterday

that the people in the Superdome have plenty of food and water--it's just that the sanitary conditions there are terrible.

Whatever.

I don't actually know whether he's Republican, Democrat, Independent, or oblivious--and he's a wonderful guy, not the kind of person to turn a blind eye to suffering, so my best guess is that that's simply the kind of crap they're hearing on the evening news around there.

[SammyWinstonJack]

34. Even if that's true, would he want to eat in filthy conditions without

being able to shower or wash his hands? Jesus Christ! He should think about that.

[Lefty48197]

26. It is interesting how the righties are trying to re-frame the story

They and their media buddies tried to make the looting of the local Walmart the main story, when the real story is one of enormously tragic human suffering. It's sad that they don't want the true story to be known.

[July]

58. Love your metaphor (the wife) and your name.

I think those wingers you're talking about may never turn, but they won't be in our faces, either.

[bee]

8. yep

even *'s fanatical right-winge mega-religious fundies. Theyre finally miffed about gas, if nothing else. Talked to a few today.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. I've heard it many times in the last two days

It seems to be a real hot topic no matter where you go.

[FloridaPat]

10. Every opportunity since the 2000 election. Lately after I fill my gas tank

I loudly thank President * for taking all that money.

[David Zephyr]

21. FloridaPat, so do I.

I say it eveytime I fill up, too.

[Window]

11. Yes. I wore my "Fuck Bush" button today.

Everyone wanted to know where they could get one. LOL!

[spuddonna]

42. Do you think they'd like a tshirt that says...

"I Hated Bush Before It Was Cool" ? I'm thinking of making some tshirts...

edited fer misssspellling

[Window]

51. Hell yeah!

I love it! Let me know when I can place an order. Seriously.

Peace

[spuddonna]

52. Doh! Someone beat me to it... I'll see if I can find the thread... n/t

[spuddonna]

54. Ok, here's the link to "Lefty Shirts"...

http://www.leftyshirts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LS&Product_Code=PS001&Category_Code=

enjoy! :)

[Window]

64. Wow!

Too bad someone beat you to it...great idea. Thanks for the site.

[sazemisery]

12. Even in Oklahoma

Many people I came in contact with today were voicing their disdain and anger. Two Republican friends of mine brought it up with me that they were disappointed and angry with Shrub. I pointed out that this was not the first time he had gone on vacation and shirked his duty as President. They admitted that they always dismissed my rants about Shrub but they had been reading some of the web sites and articles I constantly send all my Conservative friends and are ripe for concession that I was RIGHT!
But what really surprised me was the Centrist Democrats I talked to today. Usually they state their liberal opinions in whispers but were very vocal today.

[Z_I_Peevey]

46. I'm not hearing it from the diehards yet

but I'm also hearing it from regular people here in Okie-land.

God Bless America.

[Nikki Stone 1]

13. Even after this MEDIA EVENT today?

I thought Junior had everyone fooled. (I was quietly despairing all afternoon.)

[kodi]

14. you bet i have, and its coming from my red neck neighbors too

you name it, losing jobs, iraq, gas prices, dreams deferred that grew large under clinton.

[LuCifer]

20. Same here...

...I live in cattle country rural Okeechobee y'all! And since I moved here in Feb., I have yet to find one 'neck that even voted for him, much less supports the asshole! I'm talking SUPER NECKS! Gun racks, moonshine, dip chewin', CMT-is-the-only-channel-I-watch, NRA stickers galore!

THE BUBBLE IS ABOUT TO BURST! If it hasn't already...
Lu

[Lefty48197]

27. I think you may be on to something Luc

It's periods in American history like this, that make the public want a huge change in direction from their leadership. I'm starting to think that the chimp era may hand the Presidency, Senate, and House to us in the next election, and also many state House and Senate majorities.

[mshasta]

15. in north cali is happening!

went to my bank today to get my money order for the stupid rent and as I was waiting in line for a good 20 minutes there was like good 15 people behind me and 6 people in front of me and the tv's of the bank had the Headline news...in caption and scene after scene they were sowing the people outside of the superdome and this two guys one black and one white start talking about it ....-poor children...why those poor people they’re not getting the help?---.and then another two girls in her twenties they said out loud the same --get them what they need, the government is playing with human life’s--!!! these people were --mad!!! and I am talking about a –hard- core- red- area....I was talking to them too telling them about how too little to late BUSH is responding...THEY ALL AGREE....so I did not mind it all waiting in line....

[B Calm]

16. Even my right-wing Oklahoma freeper cousin said in an

e-mail that I was right about Bush all along!

[July]

59. You're the 3rd person to mention Oklahoma! There is hope! nt

[Greylyn58]

17. Yes, I have

I've been having a problem with the air conditioner in my apartment for weeks and finally one of the maintenance men came and worked on it.

I was watching the coverage of things happening this morning, switching between CNN and MSNBC(refuse to watch Fox) and he came in to tell me he had the problem fixed. He noticed what I was watching and said:

"This is a national tragedy..." Then we spent a few minutes talking about Bush and what he has done to this country. I was glad to hear some sane talk from an average working guy.

I just pray that this indignation at what is occurring will continue after all is said and done.

[callous taoboy]

18. I live in a very red town-

and am a teacher. I don't eat in the lounge, but a colleague of mine who does saw me in the hallway after lunch and told me that I would've loved the conversation in there today. All about *. Wasn't very complimentary I take it. I'm talking about a school staff that was ecstatic that bush stole office again.

Also, I ride a little wimpy electric scooter to work. Have been for two years now, weather permitting. I used to get looks of derision from big truck drivers. But today I pull up to a quickie mart for some beer and a couple of big bubbas are standing around their trucks talking about the price of gas and one of them says, "Now there you go. I should get me one of them." And he meant it.

[Lefty48197]

28. Scooter riders may become the "hippest" people in America these days

Good for you!

[callous taoboy]

49. The kids I teach already think it's way hip:

and I'll take the judgement of a 10 year old over an adult any day.
:)

[deadparrot]

19. On my way to biology class.

My college receive free copes of the New York Times, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, and USA Today. I stopped by the newspaper rack to pick up a copy of the Times, and two of the biology professors were talking. One was mocking Bush, mimicking "I didn't know the levees would break, I didn't know the levees would break!" Then she said "Maybe he should've listened to, you know, all the EXPERTS who said it would break LAST WEEK!?"

[Lefty48197]

29. Yeah, but remember...

...it was "experts" who said we had a problem with "global warming" and the potential for weather problems, like... HURRICANES!

[DawgHouse]

22. Yes, I was talking to my neighbor yesterday

about the devastation in the gulf and she said, "Well, he's YOUR president!" And I said, "!!!! He's not MY president!" She laughed and said that her husband was a republican and I joked, "well, if I'd know that I wouldn't have helped him put his new roof on" (after Charley).

I'm a little miffed that she thinks he's MY president, especially since my yard and car was plastered with Kerry campaign signs. I guess she just assumed because it's so red in my neighborhood.

[ThomWV]

23. Far Out In The Country And People Stop All The Time

I am retired and live far out in the country. I am outside almost all day almost every day. Two or three people a day stop and just chat. Different people now and then, I don't know most of their names, though most seem to know mine. People who have never said a political word before now seem to feel free to curse Bush at the first hint of discussion about any matter currently on the stage of public opnion. It was not that way just a month ago.

[Lefty48197]

31. I'm seeing the same thing

I think we are seeing a monumental shift in the feelings of average Americans. Even righties seem to be abandoning the naked emperor.

[B Calm]

35. I had a right-wing co worker openly blaming the NO mayor

today at work for not doing anything.

I said jesus fuc... christ Bob, the mayor has been screaming on TV SOS, and Bush ignored his pleas for help!! Instead your Vacationing War President decided to play golf one day, then strum on a damn guitar at a fund raiser, and even had time for a baseball game before deciding to end his vacation one day early to take care of business. Now here it is Friday and the chicken hawk bastard decides to go to New Orleans. I then explained how the son of a bitch underfunded the New Orleans flood control project so the rich could get their damn tax break! Everybody in the break room went completly silent and Bob didn't say a damn word more!

[July]

60. About ending the vacation early . . .

His real motive may have been the recess appointment he just made of a Justice Dept. official who was under scrutiny by Congress. Since the Congress decided to return early to get some aid for Katrina victims passed, Bush had to hustle back to D.C. to make the appointment while they were still in recess. Did it the day before Congress convened, which I believe was Thursday.

[boston bean]

24. Yes, I spoke to a woman in TN and she said * is an idiot. nt

[Arugula Latte]

30. Kick.

I love this thread. :kick:

P.S. I live in Portland, so, to quote another DUer, we hated Bush before hating Bush was cool ... I don't have a grasp of the "real" 'Murica... This is heartening.

[Lefty48197]

33. "we hated Bush before hating Bush was cool "

That might make a good bumper sticker!

[Arugula Latte]

44. Yes, indeedy! nt

[chalky]

57. Can someone at CafePress put that on a T-Shirt? Please?

Promise I'll buy one!

[Beam Me Up]

32. At work everyone is talking about this. Many are shocked and OUTRAGED.

[OhioBlue]

36. yes ... i have got to tell you

i was at a local luncheon today - heavy republican... the 3 speakers were all local elected republican officials. ALL of them expressed dismay at the federal response. they didn't go so far as to blame shrub.. but other local republicans did. obviously - the elected officials, wouldn't go that far, but just their dismay at the "federal government" said it all.

[dancingme]

37. My conservative catholic co-worker

in his 60's who is usually so pro Republican said this morning he is disgusted with Bush and very sorry he voted for him. He shook his head and said "He's not what I thought he was". He is one of those who bought the "great war leader" PR s**t hook, line and sinker and now that he sees the reality he is mad that he was duped by his party.

[Lisa]

38. yes. People walking down the hall at work, talking in hushed voices ...

.... about the scope of the disaster, and then more loudly, about why Bush isn't doing more. (I work at a Canadian university, so these are researchers and professors ... the undergrads aren't here for classes yet.)

My co-worker, who was down in Mississippi visiting her sister a couple of months ago (they spent some time in Biloxi) has been raging around like a mini-hurricane herself. She has training in search and rescue, and is very upset about all the things that could have been done to avoid this kind of suffering.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

39. I'm hearing a lot more criticism here in Alabama....lots more.

[mitchum]

40. Everywhere, except for two very loyal wingnuts I work with...

one of them is all about the Jesus, the other is all the Jesus AND the money. Yesterday, I made them turn off CBN's coverage with that fucking grifter Pat Robertson. "But...but...but..isn't this the channel we've been watching?" NO!
This was in a public school. Incredible, isn't it?

[Kerrytravelers]

43. Please PM me where so I can keep my kids safe from them...

... when we have kids...

[Kerrytravelers]

41. A neighbor I had never spoke to before (no reason, just a quiet complex)

She said hi and immediately went into how pissed she was at our pResident. She said she had just seen him on tv and I asked if there was another photo-op. Apparently, her family use to spend 2 weeks every summer in NO and her mother taught decorative arts in Mississippi. Her boyfriend also lived a few years in LA. And, last November, one of her former students was killed by a sniper in Iraq.

Needless to say, she voted Kerry and she is pissed!

I love my neighbors!

[loudsue]

45. I've been working all over rural Arkansas....gun totin', gun rack sportin'

many, many fundies (Pentecostal churches the size of the Pentagon every few miles).

My job entails working with homeowners, landowners, ranchers and farmers.

TO THE PERSON, I have heard people talking junk not only about the incompetence of shrub, but about primarily the republican party in general. I was surprised to find out how much people know about the corruption, corporate dominance and theft of the government under the republicans, and how people have connected the dots. Stranger still: they realize just how LONG the republicans have been in control of everything. Some of the old timers have even said they've been thinking the voting was "crooked". (With an opening like THAT, I can tell you I gave 'em an earful! ;) )

These are all white, rural Americans in a very conservative state --they don't even sell alcohol in a great many counties in Arkansas. My job keeps me traveling throughout all the states, one state at a time, and I am really amazed at how little alcohol is allowed in this state! ....sorry, that's a side note; but it's indicative of just how conservative and religious they are here.

People are not just acting polite about their disdain for bush and the republican party (these are salt-of-the-earth types, and normally very polite people)...they are hissing about it, and ANGRY. The southern boundary of Arkansas attaches to Louisiana's northern boundary, and they are feeling VERY sympathetic toward their neighbors to the south. And THEY KNOW WHOSE FAULT IT IS THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYWHERE NEAR ENOUGH HELP FORTHCOMING!

Yep. Eyes around here are very open. And they're not afraid to talk about it to people they hardly even know (me).

:kick::kick::kick:

[Lecky]

47. Today in Charleston, SC I saw a car

with a peice of paper scotch-taped to the back window that said "Bush lacks intelligent design", a few minutes later I saw a truck with the bumper sticker "Bush Must Go!".

It was a good day.

[kestrel91316]

48. I went to the grocery store at lunch today (in SoCal) and

the clerk and the lady in front of me were both going OFF on Bush about NOLA, rather loudly. Then when I got to the clerk, I went off on Bush and the clerk was agreeing, and so was the guy behind me.

Then I went to the bank and everybody in line was bitching about Bush and his mishandling of NOLA.

Every client I saw today was practically yelling about him, too.

[Geek_Girl]

50. I had an incident tonight when I went out for dinner

I was eating at the local Ihop and family was eating a few seats away. Before they ate they bowed their heads and began to pray (I live in the bible belt and it's not uncommon for folks to pray in public) about half way through the meal I heard the father who was older say real loud our President is a disgrace all those great brains in Washington and they can't fix the problems in NO."

Today while driving to work I overheard on the radio a woman called in said. "I've always supported President Bush but the way he's handling this disaster is a disgrace."


So maybe these people are changing their minds but they're so manipulated by the media and politicians it's hard to tell if their minds are changing or if they'll stay that for any length of time.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

53. Only myself and my Lib buddies so far......

It will be interesting to see what happens.

[RandomKoolzip]

55. Come on! I live in Chicago!

You can't swing a dead cat here without slapping a vocal liberal in the mouth.

I fucking love this city. :evilgrin:

[chalky]

56. Smack dab in the middle of Texas, and I'm seeing interesting changes....

Had a coworker start a conversation with me Thursday. A real truck drivin', beer drinkin', east Texas boy. Moderately conservative on some issues, DAMNED conservative on others.
Well....actually it was less a conversation and more a "he ranted, I listened and nodded" kind of thing.
It was all about the price of gas and the oil company profits, and since everyone's pissed about that, I didn't think much of it other than to be mildy surprised to hear that kind of talk from him.

But then....

I came out to break a couple of hours later and he had a couple of other guys pinned--furious about the disaster in NO. I didn't catch much of the conversation (here at ground zero, experience has taught us to speak in whispers when being critical of the Furher), but I did overhear, "Take them to Crawford, plenty of room...that place outta be clear of brush by now, for God's sake!" and "Put them in Perry's house, too!"

Didn't hear any opposition from the other guys, either.

[Boomer]

61. Ooops - posted to wrong thread

[really annoyed]

62. Not Yet

My mother is still praising GWB - thinks he is doing a great job!

Haven't heard a peep from anybody at work or in the stores!

What is wrong with everybody in Michigan!

[liberal43110]

63. My mom lives in rural NE Arkansas

She is a liberal Dem, as are most people there. Her sister and brother-in-law, however, are sick Repukes who drip with hatred for Clinton and watch nothing but Fox news.

Mom said her sister has been defending Bush and is angry at the people who refused to leave. Mom usually refuses to argue and is just quiet, but she said she couldn't keep quiet anymore. She yelled back at her sister. Her brother-in-law, who is involved in the state Republican party, has been noticably quiet; even he can't muster the courage to defend what has been going on in the Gulf.