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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:18 PM
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Is There Such a Crime as Negligent Genocide?
Does that crime exist in the books of international law?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:19 PM
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1. I don't know. Good question Steph.
I was actually thinking negligent homocide this morning, but genocide seems much closer to the truth.
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12345 Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:20 PM
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2. How about negligent homicide x 1000's?
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:21 PM
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3. I think there is nothing negligent about it. It's just genocide. n/t
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:21 PM
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4. I doubt we'll get him for Genocide
but Manslaughter.. now we're talkin.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:21 PM
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5. There Is If "We the People" Want it to Be (nt)
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:21 PM
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6. Are you thinking the UN or some other International agency would
bring the Bush Administration to justice? I hadn't thought of that before. :)
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:27 PM
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8. The International Criminal Court in the Hague
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:24 PM
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7. depraved indifference
is the charge you're looking for.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:31 PM
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10. yes, and isn't that a reason for impeachment?
We must get rid of him and his inept henchment soon!
worldcantwait.org
IMPEACH BUSH AND SEND HIM TO THE HAGUE
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:40 PM
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14. weird stuff.......
I went looking for "impeachable offenses" and ran across this - just thought it odd...

Editorial
Harper's Weekly,October 20, 1866 page 658

THE NEW ORLEANS REPORT
The Report of the military board of inquiry into the New Orleans riot confirms the opinion which every intelligent reader had formed from the facts published at the time. It was a preconcerted massacre of white and colored Union men by late rebel soldiers, with the assistance of the mob and the police, under the general direction of Mayor Monroe, who while an unpardoned rebel, was elected to his office, and was pardoned by President Johnson expressly that he might assume it.

The facts of the case are appalling. It is another of the tragical lessons which the people of this country can not safely disregard if they expect to restore public order and the authority of law. It shows us the imperative necessity of acting according to the facts, and not upon any general theory, however generous or plausible. The country must look the truth squarely in the face, and the truth is that the party which elected Monroe, and which planned and executed the fiendish slaughter in New Orleans, is the party with which the President and the Democratic party are allied, and which is again seeking the control of the Government. The success of the Democratic party would be the success of Mayor Monroe and the New Orleans conspirators; and whoever would not see a man like Monroe the chief magistrate of any city will not vote so as to put into power the party which palliates and defends his crimes.

http://www.impeach-andrewjohnson.com/06FirstImpeachmentDiscussions/iiib-6.htm

. . .Andrew Johnson is shown as a Roman emperor impassively observing Mayor John Monroe (on the horse) leading the charge of his police against the black freedmen. Secretary of State William H. Seward leans over him, while Secretary of the Navy Gideon Welles leans over the rail. The man in the Roman helmet and armor is General George Armstrong Custer, who accompanied Johnson on his "Swing Round the Circle" and at least once hurled invectives at hecklers.* 1868 Democratic presidential candidate Horatio Seymour is peering between the wall and the post at the top left.


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Sorry - I go off on tangents sometimes..... back to the research.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:04 AM
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20. NO is filled with old ghosts
and I can only imagine what sort of specters will arise from all of this.

It's interesting how the different parties swing from terrible to better to terrible again and that the same cast of characters keep on doing the same terrible things they are capable of doing.

Power and greed never changes. Thanks for sharing, that was interesting.:hi:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:27 PM
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9. This is a war against both socio-economic and race
and W's rich white friends aren't hurting at all.

The Alabama and Mississippi GOP governors say they got everything they wanted or asked for their constituents from FEMA for their higher classed basically white communities.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:32 PM
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11. Depraved Indifference fits.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:34 PM
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12. dereliction of duty
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:36 PM
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13. I've been calling this "genocide-by-neglect" for several days.
Believe I have also called it "genocide-by-indifference" a couple of times too. My reasoning is here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4588088&mesg_id=4592255

Politics aside, if New Orleans were a child, Bush would be ruled an unfit parent.
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:41 PM
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15. Does the local and state govt take any responsibility?
Governors not sending in National Guard in a timely manner even though they are the CNC of the National Guard in their states. Local Govt's, Mayors letting the infrastructure in their jurisdictions get to such a deplorable state? It's fun putting all the blame on Bush, but let's face it it is the fault of many.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:47 PM
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17. Most of the NG are from other states
Individual governors don't have the power to commodore other states NG's. Only the feds can do that.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:49 PM
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18. The Feds NOT the states have jurisdiction
in the flooding by navigable waters. They are responsible.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:42 PM
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16. Dunno...but there sure is Dereliction of Duty. (nt)
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:57 PM
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19. Yes, there seriously could be: A class action for wrongful death or
survivors' rights.

There are wrongful death statutes that create a cause of action for any wrongful act, neglect, or default that causes death. The action may be brought by the executor or administrator of the decedent's estate,or by his surviving family, and is intended to compensate the family for the loss of the economic benefit that it would have receivedin the form of support, services, or contributions had the decedent lived. Wrongful death statutes are distinguishable from survival statutes, which allow a decedent's estate to sue for pain and suffering, medical expenses, and lost wages resulting from the tortious act that leading to death.

Every American state has a wrongful death statute.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:07 AM
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21. Well there's about to be.
'Cause we said so. All of us. You know; Americans.
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