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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:08 PM
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Six attitudes that show why the US should be disappointed in itself now
Call me old and cynical (I'm forty), but I've rarely been as disappointed in my fellow Americans and my government as I have been this past week. And I've rarely been as discouraged over our future as a nation worthy of respect and admiration.

I've seen six major attitudes this week that we ALL, as Americans, should be terribly concerned about in the coming weeks as the full scope of Katrina and its terrible impact on human suffering, and the devastation it has wrought become painfully clear.

1. "Looting": First, let's be clear about something. Only blacks "loot", whites "commandeer" or "look for" things. Got it? Good. Now, let's talk about the causes of the "looting" and the prevailing attitudes regarding it. Most of what I've heard and seen this week sound something like this: "there is never an excuse for looting!" "Things were available for the asking, there was no need for them to run amok!" "Such lawlessness and chaos, what do you expect from them!" "I would never, ever do anything like that, no matter what!"

Do you see the pattern emerging? A total lack of understanding as to what these people have had to deal with and just how desperate they really are. They were not stealing brand new computers and big-screen TVs, for the most part. They were taking basic items like food, water, blankets, batteries, flashlights, diapers, formula, etc., etc. Items that they simply could not find anywhere, having lost everything they owned. Stores that weren't submerged or destroyed were locked and deserted, with no clerks in sight. And how, pray tell, were they supposed to have gotten money? ATMs and banks submerged or destroyed, credit cards rendered worthless, etc. Most of them went into survival-mode, which is, as any anthropologist who's spent even one day in class can tell you, a very common human response mechanism. What did we expect them to do, form one giant circle around the state and sing Kumbaya while they and their families were desperate for food and water? And those who were parents were/are especially desperate, with their babies and children badly in need of things like food and water and formula to actually survive.

And for those who keep saying that "there's never an excuse for that, and I would never, ever do that", well how, exactly, do you know that? Have you ever been in a situation where your house and everything you own is destroyed, you have nothing but the clothes on your back, many friends, neighbors and even, possibly, family members are dead or missing, and you have no food and water or any other survival items and no way to get any? Have you ever been two or more days in that situation? No, you haven't. You're in a comfortable environment, in possession of your house and everything you own, in no danger of losing it and having your world turned totally upside down in a matter of hours, with access to food and water and anything else you may need. So, while it's very nice to sit on your self-righteous judgment seat and look down your nose at the poor riffraff who are desperately trying to keep themselves and their families alive, it just ain't gonna fly. Until you've been there, you do NOT know what you would do and it's pretty damned high-handed and sanctimonious to say that you would.

2. Evacuation: Over and over again I'm hearing, in the media and from nearly everyone else, that the people stuck in NO and the gulf MS towns and cities should have left when they had the chance, it's their own damned fault, and tough rocks if they now need help. Let's take a closer look at that lovely sentiment, shall we? Yes, there were, indeed, people who chose to stay and "ride it out", no question. But the vast majority of those stuck in those hellholes are there because they had no choice in the matter and NOWHERE TO GO AND NO WAY TO GET THERE. Many lacked transportation, let alone anywhere to go and the money to get there. It is hard for people who've never experienced any type of poverty at all to understand that, so let me try to spell it out for you. When you have very little money and resources, every day is an exhausting struggle. When disaster strikes, whether personally or via such a natural disaster like Katrina, you are hit especially hard because you have nothing and no reserves to begin with. Just what, exactly, did you expect them to do? Charter a private plane complete with caviar tables to get them out of there and away from the riffraff?

3. Economics/gas prices: One of the most disturbing things about this whole situation is the sentiment I'm hearing from fellow Americans loud and clear, the first thing, and sometimes the ONLY thing, they're truly concerned about is gas prices and how this will affect the economy. Never mind that it's one of the worst natural disasters ever to befall our great country, that thousands, perhaps even tens of thousands, may be dead, that hundreds of thousands more have been turned into refugees in their own country, refugees who have nothing, that an entire city has to be evacuated and abandoned for the first time ever in American history, that entire towns and cities along the gulf coast have been totally devastated, etc., etc. What really matters is gas prices and money, money, money. Shame, shame, SHAME!

4. Foreign aid: The prevailing sentiment seems to be that no other country has dropped everything to rush to our aid, that the entire world owes us everything even if they don't have much to begin with, and that because every single nation on earth isn't rushing to bow down at our feet and offer assistance, that the whole world can go to hell.Never mind that we don't spend nearly as much on foreign aid as the average citizen seems to think we do. Never mind that nations DID and HAVE offered aid from the very beginning, but that Our Great Leader, in his infinite wisdom, chose, for political propaganda reasons, to ignore or turn down such offers during the first few days. It appears that they are attempting to soft-pedal all the foreign aid offers and twist things around to make it seem as if no one gives a damn when, in fact, the opposite is true. Other countries appear to care more than our own citizens do.

5. Leadership: In short, WHERE THE HELL IS IT? Bush dilly-dallys around for the first couple of days, then gives a speech with that ever-present smirk on his face, spewing out such profound gems of wisdom like "this was a terrible storm. A terrible storm. And it hit with terrible velocity through the gulf states." A "terrible storm", huh? Really? No kidding, pResident Sherlock. Thank you for that brilliant, enlightened assessment. Then he dilly-dallied around for a few more days, even attending a FUNDRAISER for Christ's sake, before finally hauling his ass down to ground zero to engage in some heartrending useless photo-ops.

His halting, bumbling, fumbling, incompetent, insincere, insensitive, trite-speech-making response has been mirrored all down the line, from FEMA (including its blaming of evacuees for their own plight) to the bureaucratic-speak of Homeland Security Czar Michael Chertoff, to Condi Rice's SHOPPING IN NEW YORK, etc., etc. If one were so inclined to think so, one would think that they don't even really care all that much, that they're just going through the motions and putting on a show. But that just can't be the case, now, can it?

Four days and still no help on the ground for thousands of desperate people except for police being pulled of rescue missions to stop other desperate people from trying to get food and water to survive, National Guard troops being called in to protect property from desperate riffraff and not to help the desperate riffraff themselves, NO water, NO food, NO help. A response far more worthy and expected of a third-world nation instead of the world's richest country.

Contrast that to when hurricanes hit Florida. GWB was down there in a flash, appearing with his brother everywhere, passing massive aid bills, the National Guard was called out in a jiffy, etc., etc. Too bad for LA or MS that Jebbie isn't their governor and that it isn't an election year. Oh, yes, and that many of the victims in Florida were WHITE. But nah, no racism involved here; move along, folks, move along, nothing to see here.

And contrast that to the whole Terry Schiavo situation. Congress was called back from vacation to an emergency situation in a FLASH, and hurriedly passed midnight legislation. But they couldn't be bothered as quickly this time for something so much more critically important as, say, the worst natural disaster to hit their country and their own citizens? Is a brain-dead woman who should have been allowed to die in peace years before she was finally permitted to do so, more important to them than the destruction of an entire section of their country and the deaths of thousands and displacement of hundreds of thousands of their own citizens? I guess if those citizens are poor and black, there must not be any political capital to be gained from it. Oops, there goes that age-induced cynicism again.

6. And, finally, APATHY. I'm sensing apathy, lack of concern or caring, and a whole host of other equally similar and equally disturbing attitudes from my fellow citizens. People really don't seem to care all that much, except as how their gas prices and pocketbooks will be affected. People are even going so far as to blame the victims for their own horrible misfortune. Has the social contract, where citizens think of others as well as themselves and realize that when their fellow citizens are in trouble or harmed that it affects them as well and that we're all in this together, been ripped this badly?

Contrast that, again, to the responses to the FL hurricanes, which did not cause nearly the death and destruction that Katrina has caused and will cause for a long time to come. Sympathy, concern, caring, outpourings of money and aid, etc., etc. I'm absolutely horrified by this apathy and lack of concern, (except for the affect on our pocketbooks) and I can really only conclude that racism and classism play a large part in that. I really don't want to do so, but it's becoming more painfully obvious every day that that is, indeed, the case, on the part of both our so-called "leaders" and the country as a whole.

Where are the "Christian" leaders (Robertson, Falwell, et al.) in all of this? Where's their call to their congregations to do the Christian thing, what Jesus would want them to do, and give whatever aid, help, assistance, and sympathy that they can? Or are they too busy with their usual bullshit of claiming "God's judgment" (never mind that LA and MS are two of the most anti-abortion, anti-gay, pro-Bush, fundie states in the country),and ranting hellfire and brimstone to fatten their own wallets, instead of doing what the Bible tells them to do in these circumstances?

Where are you, America? Where is your compassion, your concern for the destruction of the lives of thousands of your fellow citizens and the desperate situations and refugee status of hundreds of thousands more? Is it that you don't truly grasp the full scope of the disaster yet? Am I being just a middle-aged cynic, or do you truly not care about less fortunate non-whites? Whatever it is, this week many of you have shown your true "colors", so to speak. The media and the government and our "leaders" certainly have. Take a good, hard look in the mirror, America. You may not like what you see, if you can even see it at all. I know I sure as hell don't.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:11 PM
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1. The first two are largely talking points fomented by shrubco to divert
attention away from their own malfeasance. Granted they have considerable resonance with Right Wingers including many here where I live.

As far as foreign aid, many countries have offered aid. But when, as a country, the USA hasn't even "dropped everything" to come to its own aid, how could we reasonably expect anyone else to?

I mean really. Not even a wingnut could argue that Iraq occupation is critical to our IMMEDIATE survival. I would imagine 100K plus troops plus all that gear, and all the money we are spending there, would help considerably in any and all efforts to salvage NOLA and the Gulf Coast.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:20 PM
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3. Very good points,
I know that some of them are RW talking points and what I'm saying is that it makes me sick that so many people are falling for them. I guess that will happen when society measures the moral worth of people by how much money they have (regardless of how they got it in the first place), as ours does.

I just read that the Pentagon will not pull out the LA National Guard troops currently in Iraq so that they'd be available for assistance in their own state. The reason was "because they're scheduled to come home next month anyway." Well, geez, I'm sure everything will just stop and be hunky-dory until they get there. :eyes: :eyes:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:39 PM
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6. Yeah the stranded will be dead by the time they get back anyway-
problem solved.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:45 PM
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7. Problem solved,
indeed, and I wouldn't really be surprised if that's the way they want it. :mad: :mad: :mad:
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:15 PM
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2. absolutely right
every bit of it
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:28 PM
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4. It's unfortunate, isn't it?
And now I'm reading about how people in the convention center are being called "spoiled and whiney." Good God in heaven. I had to read that a few times before it actually sunk in. I just can't believe Americans could be this callous and shallow toward desperate people who've lost everything and have nothing. Of course, if they were white and well-off, people would be rushing to set up the caviar tents and pop the champagne for them. Makes me physically ill right now.
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:37 PM
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5. Recommended nt
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:12 PM
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32. Oh, good grief! Please tell me that this isn't so. Who said or
printed such a thing?

You're post is excellent and it sums up a lot of what I've been feeling and noticing. It's as if people are just going about their business and I'm finding that attitude very hard to deal with.
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WI Independent Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:45 PM
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8. Not all bad...
Don't get me wrong, you make some good points (especially the total lack of leadership).

BUT...

Our town of 50,000 here in Wisconsin raised $300,000 in 12 hours today through a local drive to help the victims of Katrina. (A town that's roughly 99% white, by the way)

My wife saw on the news today that fire trucks from Los Angeles were showing up in New Orleans after days on the road. Also, a bunch of Average Joes from all over, not just local, showing up pulling fishing boats wanting to aid in rescue.

People are showing up at the Astrodome offering to take refugees to their homes.

This is still, for the most part, a great country with a big heart. It's mostly our government and our media that are dividing us. Hell, I'd bet dollars to donuts at least a few of those trucks with fishing boats have "Dubya" stickers on the back.

As for Robertson and Fallwell... I believe they are about as representative of the values of most christians as Bush is of the values of our nation. Another example of the "leaders" dividing the people. You might be surprised at how many churches (including fundamentalist) will contribute money and manpower to assist.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:49 PM
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10. I'm very glad to hear that about your town
and I sincerely hope you're right and I hope it continues. I just don't see it where I am, or hear it much, at least not right now. And I know other people in other parts of the country who are sensing the same apathy as well.
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Canadian Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:37 PM
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21. Having read the whole thread (so far)
I didn't know where to post this. I figured this was a good a place as any.

FYI, the provincial government in British Columbia (Canada) is sending in their emergency urban response team at a direct request from the governor of Louisiana. The Canadian government is also responding with several warships, coast guard and helicopters loaded with EMTs and supplies. The DART (disaster team that went to Indonesia for the tsunami) is on a one hour alert status. They are waiting for permission for the U.S. government. I'm curious why the U.S. government is waiting on asking for this extra help.
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WI Independent Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:20 PM
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22. I think our current "leaders"...
see asking for help as a sign of weakness... Other possibilities include; they are so delusional they think they have it under control, they are in such disarray they have no idea where to send your help, they're on vacation, the memo is circulating around waiting for someone to make a decision, or ???

Speaking for myself (and I hope the majority of US citizens), help from your country is welcome and GREATLY appreciated. Thank you!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:48 PM
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9. You Tell Us, And We'll Both Know.
I've never been more ashamed of my country then right here and now. Don't expect many to look into that mirror except to see but their own self-righteous arrogance.

Quite frankly, I'm past disgusted and sickened beyond words.

I ask as well, where is America's compassion?

Kicked and Nominated!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:50 PM
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11. I really hope we'll be proven wrong,
but as I said above, I'm just not seeing it yet.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:25 PM
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23. As a Fellow Historian...
this is one of the saddest days in our history. And I do not see it yet, either.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:01 PM
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12. The importance of leadership in times of crisis
Human beings are social animals that crave leadership in times of crisis, whether in a small group or as a nation. Not only for logistical purposes ("what the f* do we do now?") but also for psychological reasons. Our senses are assaulted and all kinds of things pop into our brains. A good leader steps forward and knows the right things to say to comfort people and re-direct their focus in a positive direction.

Lack of leadership results in confusion, panic, destruction and death.

As a society we should be asking ourselves WHY we suffer under such poor leadership. This goes beyond George W Bush*. What have we done to the body politic and the rest of society to retard the development and elevation of real leaders?

Luckily bush* is MORE inept than he is evil. What would happen to this country if we chose a leader who was evil AND capable? Leadership vacuums are prone to extremism.

We must lead the leaders NOW before its too late.

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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:06 PM
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13. We shouldn't have to "lead the leaders",
although in this case you're absolutely right in saying we need to do so. Leaders need to LEAD, not wait to be told how and when to lead. It's absolutely sickening what the consequences of that have been so far.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:11 PM
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14. A couple of things.
Call me old and cynical (I'm forty),
From my perspective 40 is jailbait.

I'm not a big Christian, but:

Matthew 25:31-46 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)

Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society
NIV at IBS International Bible Society NIV at Zondervan Zondervan

The Sheep and the Goats
31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:13 PM
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15. Yes, I always enjoy reading that particular verse and
pointing it out to the fundies who never seem to do a damn thing for their fellow human beings except incite hate and hellfire against them. Thanks for posting it!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:15 PM
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16. Amen. nt
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:19 PM
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17. bookmarked. great read. thanks.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:23 PM
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18. robertson = operation blessing is the 2nd listed charity to give
to - his organization is going to get the funds to spread more of their anti liberal rhetoric

they were listed on nbc news station and someone said they are on fema site

red cross will divert the money to elsewhere too
the only way to truly help those people is do it yourself
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:28 PM
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19. I don't know about singing "Kumbaya" but

a woman at the conference center was leading everyone in the the 23rd Psalm yesterday.

And I've seen a lot of footage of people sitting and waiting outside the convention center, looking much like people you might see waiting for a bus on a normal August day in New Orleans -- resigned to the heat and the waiting.

I don't think white people would have behaved as well, really.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:32 PM
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20. I filled up @ $3.39/gallon today ... and was only mildly pissed.
The sky was blue, the sun was shining, the ground was dry, the power was on, the toilets flushed, the stores were open, and my family is safe. If I could only find a way to join a mass march of millions on Washington, with pitchforks and torches, I'd be a happy camper. I'm beyond outrage. I'm beyond anger. I'm beyond my ability to describe how I feel my nation and my very species has been befouled and betrayed by beings not worthy of the label "animals."
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:44 PM
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25. That pretty much describes
how I feel. And I have more cause than a lot of others to complain about gas prices, since I drive about 700-800 miles a week for my job. Sure, I get mileage, but that doesn't begin to cover what I really spend on gas. But that's not really important to me now, even though I'm having to fill up several times a week. Like you said, I still have everything and everything works and I haven't lost any friends or family.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:58 AM
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24. Tell it. (nt)
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:55 PM
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26. Recommended/Nominated.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:10 PM
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27. I would add another attitude
"Let's not make this a political issue."


77% of the voters in NO voted for Kerry.

Suppose they were ** supporters, instead, like say...oh...in Florida?

It already IS political, folks. This is the brutal punishment for not siding with the gang of thugs and looters in the White House.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:23 PM
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28. And also for having the nerve
to be poor and black in a country that couldn't care less about either! Good point, thanks.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:40 PM
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29. You are so correct
and thank YOU for your excellent OP
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:48 PM
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30. Amen!
Amen, Amen, Amen!

Having just returned from 4 years spent abroad... AMEN!

We're NOT the 'Greatest Nation on Earth'. We are a bunch of ordinary people who experience pain and fear and joy and hope, just like the other 6 billion people around the world. And we, too, are 'led' by despots and tyrants and oligarchs, just like people in other countries are.

I just cannot understand how W-supporters justify their worldview to themselves... too much cognitive dissonance involved, I would think. The anti-intellectual, chest-banging, war-drumming... I just DON'T GET IT. What do they get out of it? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

The only thing I can come up with that remotely explains it is what Michael Moore says about why working people, hell, ANY people who aren't ridiculously wealthy, vote Republican. Is it because they have bought into the American Dream and think they, too, will one day be fantastically wealthy? In which case, they don't want the government taking their money away?

Also, is anyone else afraid the cabal in DC will use this as an opportunity to pass a whole sh*tload of crappy legislation once they are back in session? Like regarding the estate tax, civil liberties, social security, etc?

Not that it matters. I think we are all screwed.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:01 PM
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31. Oh, I have no doubt that they will milk
this for all its worth, and get as much political capital from it as they can. I'm really hoping that this time the scales will finally start dropping from people's eyes; if this doesn't do it, NOTHING will.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:23 PM
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33. Regarding apathy
The thing for me is, the place I draw the line is

You CANNOT be apathetic when LIVES are at stake.

This is why I am against the Iraq war. It is VERY hard to legitimately justify the destruction of human life. This administration, like other before it only much more blatantly and corruptly, has taken an unfathomable amount of human life. To support it is to condone it. To ignore it is to condone it.

When it's just about some fat cats getting rich at our expense, I can see people being complacent. When it's just about OTHER people losing some of their civil rights, I can see people being complacent. When it's just about our education system going down the pan, I can see people being complacent. But when it's about LIFE AND DEATH, there is no room for apathy.

This is why I get into heated arguments with relatives and other assorted complacent smugfaces. They think I am a radical communist (I am not); I think they are either blind, mentally challenged, or incomprehensibly selfish (usually a mixture! haha). But we SHOULD be angered and appalled and shocked when people DIE for MONEY.

When Clinton lied, far, far fewer people died.
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