Don't you hate it when someone attacks you personally over something

[Ladyhawk]

really stupid...and you don't even know who the hell they are????

GD is weird sometimes. :shrug:

[johnaries]

1. What the %&* are you talking about? You stupid @*&$#^!?!?!

Sorry, just couldn't resist. :hi:

Hey, Karl Rove tactics can be very effective on many levels.
Facts are our armor.
:toast:

On Edit: A sense of humor helps, also. :silly:

[Ladyhawk]

2. LOL! That was funny. :D I needed a laugh.

:yourock:

[johnaries]

4. Thanks! We all do.

Here, have one on me -
:beer: followed with one of these -
:hug:

[Ladyhawk]

8. Wish I could.

Diabetes and alcohol don't mix too well. Bummer. Alcohol does wonders for my nerves.

[johnaries]

14. Sweetheart, alcohol was the crutch. Your mind is the key!

Do you remember how you felt before after a few good belts?
It's all in your mind. You can feel that again. Just close your eyes, tune out everything else that isn't important. And none of it is important!

If you felt something once before, you can feel it again. You don't need any drink or any smoke or anything else to make you feel it.

If you can remember it, you can feel it again. Just close your eyes and let yourself take yourself back...

[Catherine Vincent]

5. LOL!

Thanks for the laugh.:)

[titoresque]

3. yes but...........

details please? j/k.....I've heard enough blood pressure rising news for the day.
Hope your evening ends better :) :hi:

[Just Me]

6. Sorry. Emotions run high from time to time.

I found myself guilty of pure emotional stupidity and was very ashamed of myself. ;(

Just,...try to blow it off. GD DOES get weird sometimes.

[smurfygirl]

7. happens all the time

but I don't care everyone is entitled to their stupid opinion.
:smoke:

[Ladyhawk]

9. Yeah, it was over something really, really insignificant, too.

:shrug:

[johnaries]

10. We need each other now more than ever. Love, hugs, and kisses

to every one who needs it.

Well, kisses to every WOMAN who needs it.

Hey, I have no problem hugging a man, but I save my kisses for the women folk.

Cause, well I LIKE kissing women!

Not that I have anything against gays, or anything like that, I just like kissing women.

No, I'm not gonna FORCE awoman to kiss me if she doesn't want to...

Gee, you're right, GD CAN get weird!

And I'm just arguing with myself!


:freak:

[TahitiNut]

11. It's one of my pet peeves on DU. Some folks don't seem to know ...

... the difference between a valid argument/discussion and a personal attack. The most frequent personal attacks have to do with gender ... as though a person of the 'wrong' gender is incapable of either forming a valid perspective or even comprehending the 'truth.' The ones that chap my scrotum are the ones where the person devolves into 'mind-reading' and mischaracterization. One of the most reliable ways to tell it's a personal attack is when the words "you" and "your" are heavily used in the post. It's rather amazing -- merely by reading my own posts and seeing the "you"s and "your"s I can see when I've gone off course. It's really not difficult. :shrug:

[johnaries]

12. TahitiNut - I miss your sig line... it always made me smile!

Unfortunately, with some people, when you question their assumptions or logic they see it as a personal attack.

I am not talking about LadyHawk, I have read many of her posts and she definitely does not fall into this category.

But, when she or any of us questions the "logic" of anyone else, some of them are not able to separate the "logic" from themselves and take it as a "personal attack". Therefore, they retaliate with a "personal attack" of their own.

KKKarl understood this a long time ago, and has used it to great advantage.

[TahitiNut]

18. It's true that people take a critique of their argument too personally.

I used to be one. :shrug: There is, however, a big difference between questioning assumptions and logic and question the ability of the person to possess same. That's a distinction that many fail to make - on both sides (questioned and questioner). When the distinction is lost, so's the civility. At that point, further discussion bears only bitter fruit.

I'm guessing the part of my sig you like is "There are two things which cannot be attacked in front: ignorance and narrow-mindedness. They can only be shaken by the simple development of the contrary qualities. They will not bear discussion." — Lord Acton

I like it too, of course -- especially since I realize that, in anything I ever have to say to another (even in my sig), I'm in as much (or more) need of listening as I'd ever think of another. That Acton quote is a perfect example. :silly:

[Ladyhawk]

15. I'll keep this in mind for my future behavior.

I responded in kind, but I feel I had the right. :shrug:

[niceypoo]

17. Its the lowest form of debate

It's what people do when they have no valid position or they have no confidence in their argument

[the_spectator]

22. You evil man!

Go grind your oppressive patriarchal axe *cough*penis*cough* elsewhere! I mean, who, other than you, has brought the Battle of the Sexes into the Battle of New Orleans? :crazy: :hi:

[Guaranteed]

13. It's never nearly as big of a deal as it seems.

We all flame one time or another.

[Ladyhawk]

16. This was different, in a way.

Paraphrased: "Gee, I knew someone would come along and say something stupid, but this certainly isn't the first time for you, is it?"

I didn't even know the person and he just called me stupid and implied I say stupid things all the time. :shrug: That's a bit much, even for GD. I didn't say anything stupid or even controversial. :shrug:

[TahitiNut]

20. That's what I'd call a 'borderline' personal attack... with a WIDE border.

While it has the clear implication that the person is stupid, it actually doesn't say so. It literally focuses on the message. But extending it to something habitual or recidivist is where I'd vote (if I were a mod) for removal. Notice the use of the word "you"? Works, doesn't it? Some mods/folks don't see it that way -- and opt for the "thick skin" advisory.

When, however, that's the bare post, it can (and should, imho) be removed as inflammatory. Often, that's the best way to alert on it -- and giving an alert is a responsible action.

[Guaranteed]

21. Again...it's just...

Lady, I'm not well-liked here on DU because I'm NOT a DLC whore OR a leftist commie.

I split the difference, and many people think I'm a freeper for it. I fight ALL the time, here. I get the passive-aggressive bullshit CONSTANTLY.

It's a good sign. If this person has noticed you, you've done something important.

Seriously, don't worry. You're fine.

[lpbk2713]

19. I've been there, LH

I've been there.

[TahitiNut]

23. An afterthought on 'opinion' vs. 'argument.'

Many don't seem to comprehend the difference. An 'opinion' is a conclusion with unknown or secret recipe. An 'argument' is a conclusion where the recipe is published. Just as any food or drug must disclose its ingredients to permit public sale, so an argument is required when peddling a conclusion. We tend to accommodate the latter by saying "everyone has a right to an opinion." While true, it speaks only to personal consumption, not publication. Just as I can feed and medicate myself without publishing my recipes, I can possess opinions without presenting assumptions or logic. We tend to give some slack to 'experts' in voicing opinions strictly within their area of expertise. At the same time we have public rigor in deeming a person an 'expert' - and such persons demonstrate far more responsibility in the disclosure of the "ingredients" of their opinions than any ordinary citizen. Thus, I'd say, folks have a right to their opinions, if and only if they keep them for their personal consumption. Beyond that, we have no assurance they're not toxic. Make sense?