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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:01 PM
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LIARS! LIARS! LIARS!
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 11:07 PM by IndyOp
FEMA LIE: The lawlessness of the disaster area, New Orleans proper, is so bad that the American Red Cross has setup their Emergency Food and Shelters in Texas. <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2052957>

TRUTH (from the Red Cross): The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city. <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4596753>

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FEMA LIE: (A FEMA worker) also said something that was very disturbing, She has worked at many of the disasters that we have faced, Oklahoma City, floods and other weather issues, 9/11 and so on. She said this, “Every disaster that I have ever been apart of the people are at their wits end, but they band together and help each other out, it is not happening in New Orleans right now.”

TRUTH FROM EYEWITNESSES:

Early in the day, we witnessed a black man in a boat with no motor paddling with a piece of lumber. He rescued people in the boat and paddled them to safety (a mile and a half). He then, amidst all of the boats with motors, turned around and paddled back out across the mile and a half stretch to do his part in getting more people out. He refused to give up or occupy any of the motored boat resources because he did not want to slow us down in our efforts.

...in a really rough neighborhood and we came across five seemingly unsavory characters. One had scars from what seemed to be gunshot wounds.... These guys stayed outside in the center all day, getting everyone out of the rec center onto boats. We approached them at approximately 6:30 p.m., obviously one of the last trips of the day, and they sent us further into the neighborhood to get more people out of homes and off rooftops instead of getting on themselves. This at the risk of their not getting out and having to stay in the water for an undetermined...amount of time. These five guys were on the last boat out of the neighborhood at sundown. They were incredibly grateful, mentioned numerous times 'God is going to bless y'all for this'.

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4591778#4593121>

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FEMA TRUTH: (A FEMA employee) also told me that FEMA is in chaos. I am not sure what is going on, but for the love of god it is pure hell in their, pure hell.

WHOSE FAULT!!!
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:05 PM
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1. forward these stories to the press
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:16 PM
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2. focus on looters as an excuse for imposing martial law and locking the
city, and perhaps all involved states, down. what else are all those troops doing there, since they didn't appear to be handing out supplies or getting the people out
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:18 PM
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3. yep
i hear you...

:scared:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:27 PM
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4. EXACTLY --
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PeacePal Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:39 PM
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5. They are there to stop the press coverage
We had the means and the methods to save those people. There are more things being hidden, I'm sure. Let's all dig for the facts and get them out.

My gut says it's not just about race, it's about CLASS, it's about driving home to all of US - the "lower" 90% - how powerless we are, so we'll shake and quake and be so relieved to hear daddy tell us will all be okay that we don't even WANT to ask questions.

It's PSYOPS, it's part of the plan. I mean, don't YOU want to go eat Haagen-Daz and watch Seinfeild re-runs?

It takes nerves of steel just to remain AWARE, to be here in the present moment and not run for cover or hide under the covers.

The military is there to keep us scared, while STILL giving us some perverted sense of "security". They are there to keep US out.

It's terrifying to know that we, the people, are just The Public, an annoying gnat buzzing around the heads of the Powerful.

Stay awake. Eat your Wheaties.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:43 PM
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7. I think you are dead on, backtotheuniverse
and welcome to DU

wish it was under better circumstances.....
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:59 AM
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13. It's also, not insignificantly, about being Blue
They didn't vote for him, so why should he go out if his way to help them?

It sounds absurdly petty... but since when has this guy ever done anything except as payback?
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:42 PM
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6. Well, * said he was in charge. I now blame him for the deaths of
everyone in the Super Dome and Convention Center. It looks like they have delayed food and water so people won't want to stay there. Weren't they doing that in Iraq to get the people there to say where the "insurgents" were?
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:24 AM
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9. Honestly I think every death
once they started the delays and kept food, water, care and transportation out should be at least a manslaughter charge. Even negligent homicide. Nit kidding.

The storm killed people, the swells and levee break killed people. Those raise many questions to.
But every survivor who was left to fend for themselves who died, that isn't just tragedy, it is crime.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:14 AM
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8. Re- Lie #2:
Also belied by testimony of the cameraman who spoke on K. Olbermann's Countdown last nite (Thur., 9/1)--he said despite gruesome conditions at convention center, folks were there bec. they'd been following instructions, and that they remained more peaceful and helpful than others he'd seen in less trying conditions in his many years in his job.

Also see:

Planes Did NOT Report Being Shot At
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1087205

Laura Brown, a Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman in
Washington, said she had no such report.

"We're controlling every single aircraft in that airspace and none of
them reported being fired on," she said, adding that the FAA was in
contact with the military as well as civilian aircraft.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:52 AM
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11. Thanks - I did not see Olbermann and am glad to hear
another eyewitness account.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:27 AM
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10. Homeland Security workin' HARD to *HELP*....here's the reality....
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:54 AM
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12. This is heartless bullshit ------>
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 08:55 AM by HamdenRice
TRUTH (from the Red Cross): The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city

Yeah, they mustn't provide aid or sick, hungry dehydrated people will flock to the aid stations.
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