WOW, I was at friends and Faux was on.

[skiptomidew]

Geraldo, was crying about the abuse of the people in the Convention center..Not to suprising cause I always thought he was kinda moderate.

But, Shepard smith was going off on o'rielly!!! Saying he wouldn't lay blame but there was without doubt favoratism going on in NO. Said he spent 4 days on a bridge and never saw a red cross van, saw busses and police pass right by. Even as he spent an hour on the air telling the location and dire straights of the thousands there. Many dying.

He said I Know They Can Get Here Cause We Did!!!!

He sounded really PISSED. I mean REALLY PISSED!!!

I was amazed.

[aquart]

1. I heard that somewhere else on TV.

The journalist was saying WE got here. And it was an accusation.

[Hello_Kitty]

2. I donated to the Red Cross and I'm getting pretty pissed

By these reports that they're not there. Thankfully, I also gave to other organizations like Second Harvest, who have been reported to have a presence. It's just that my employer matches donations to the Red Cross so my dollars went farther there. They have some fucking explaining to do if it's true that they've been lagging in their response.

[skiptomidew]

7. geraldo is holding up babys and yelling at the camera.

Shepard says they are locked in the center and they won't let em walk out to the end of the bridge where they have hope. He is yelling at hannity now that that is PERSPECTIVE!! They are locked in here and the government won't let em go.

This is all F@cked up.

[newyawker99]

34. Hi skiptomidew!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[bbgrunt]

8. Molloy just said Red Cross was kept out of N.O.

because department of homeland security didn't want aid to be available because they were afraid that people wouldn't evacualte.

according to Mike, you can find it on red cross web site under FAQ.

[Sugarbleus]

22. OMG, AFRAID they WOULDN'T evacuate??? What BS

All we are seeing is people BEGGING to get the hell out of there!!

Geraldo and Shep just let us know that armed guards are preventing people FROM LEAVING AND WALKING ACROSS THE CAUSEWAY TO A DRY SAFE ZONE

What in HOLY HELL is going on????????

[achtung_circus]

10. Check this

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4598643>

[mom cat]

14. I am proud of the Red Cross for making this public.

[Eloriel]

20. More links here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4588088&mesg_id=4588088

[Hello_Kitty]

21. Ok I feel better now about the Red Cross and that much more pissed

At my government. Thanks for the link.

[Spazito]

11. Here is the reason they were not in NO, by order of Homeland

Security:

Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans?


Acess to New Orleans is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities and while we are in constant contact with them, we simply cannot enter New Orleans against their orders.

The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city.

The Red Cross has been meeting the needs of thousands of New Orleans residents in some 90 shelters throughout the state of Louisiana and elsewhere since before landfall. All told, the Red Cross is today operating 149 shelters for almost 93,000 residents.

http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html#4524

[Hello_Kitty]

24. See, I know people who work for the Red Cross

And I cannot believe they would not be chomping at the bit to get into an area where there is need. It would be completely uncharacteristic of them to stand back.

[Spazito]

35. I couldn't figure out where all the concern about the Red Cross

not being there, it didn't seem possible until I read this. I find it appalling that starving and dehydrated people were not getting aid because they MIGHT NOT MOVE OUT, it sounds like a crock to me.

[txindy]

12. The claim is that Homeland Security wouldn't let the Red Cross into NO

:shrug: I still don't understand why they have to set up in Texas, though, for "security" reasons. Surely there are places closer to NO that also need help.

Adding: Forgot to add: Welcome to DU! :hi:

[Sugarbleus]

17. You've hit on something I've been worried about..RED CROSS

I remember when RED CROSS had some money managment scandals to deal with on or around 9/11; I remember how they turned down assistance for people in MY area after the LOMA PRIETA EARTHQUAKE. I know they HAVE helped people to one degree or another BUT................why should I give to them if I have NO idea where the money is going? I sure as hell don't want as much as half the bucks going into THEIR POCKETS.

People will need housing and ongoing care for sometime to come. Will RED CROSS do that? OR will they do like they did to a lovely elderly lady raising her five grandchildren and toss people out of motels after a few days??? That lady, a sweet, kind hearted devout protestant xtian, had to turn to the Mormon church for help when her house FELL DOWN and ruined everything they had.

I WANT to give. I WANT to help. I just don't know where it will do the most good.

If anyone can tell me WHAT THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDE, perhaps I can feel better about giving to them.

Yeah, where have they been with the ice/water, clothes, fruit, milk for babies and all the rest.....in New Orleans???????? Babies can't do MREs!!

[Sugarbleus]

25. Addendum: I read other posts and now I get it...

And they wonder why a person would take up arms in a "situation" like this..........Sheesh.

[Eloriel]

29. Here are a couple of alternatives:

LA Dem Staffer looking for help for LA displaced...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4595977&mesg_id=4595977

Camp Casey II moves to Camp Casey Covington
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4595057&mesg_id=4595057

[Sugarbleus]

33. Thanks much Eloriel.... eom..

[quiet.american]

3. I just heard the audio of Shep Smith shouting down Hannity.

Hell has now officially frozen over.

Never thought I'd hear Shep Smith shouting down a spin attempt from a fellow Fox'er. Wonder if his outrage will last beyond this horror.

[nytemare]

5. Do you have that link?

I want to hear that.

[quiet.american]

32. Just checked back in to the board ---

-- the suggestion below is probably your best bet to hear it:

Mike Malloy Show archive:
http://www.whiterosesociety.org

To be found within the Friday, Sept. 2nd link.

[gatorboy]

9. Would you mind sending me a link of that?

I gotta hear that! :hi:

[Swamp Rat]

18. Listen to Mike Malloy's archive at the White Rose Society

1st or 2nd hour... sorry can't remember which... try the 2nd hour first. :)

[nytemare]

4. Welcome to DU, Skiptomidew!

Seems a lot of the more conservative reporters/hosts are angry at the administration. They need to be.

:hi:

[spuddonna]

6. Amazing how when people deal with people, one on one...

the compassion that anyone can feel...

Hey, welcome to DU... Wish it was under better circumstances... :(

[skiptomidew]

13. Thanks all for the nice welcome.

It is freaking me out that shep is shouting down the Faoxers.

[skiptomidew]

15. Sorry I don't have a link.

I was just listening and then watching... I never expected to hear it on Fox.

[spuddonna]

16. Yeah, I heard that earlier and thought I should look out...

For hell freezing soon and flying pigs! insane...

[skiptomidew]

19. LOL

Whats funny is that they were truly shouting down O'Rielly and Hannity. It wasn't a play.

They were both really mad!!! It was obvious if you saw it.

[spuddonna]

27. I believe it...

I've seen extremely conservative people, when confronted with the unvarnished truth, sometimes have 'epiphanies'...

I think my in-laws have had a few during political conversations we've had... at least they don't think all Dems are 'evil'. :)

[bpilgrim]

23. welcome to DU skiptomidew - and here's a link for ya...

:toast:

http://news.globalfreepress.com/gallery/index.php?cat=19
katrina media archive

peace

[walldude]

26. I just saw this myself.. Crooks and Liars has the clip

Everyone on DU should see it. Geraldo and Shepard dropped the politics and became Americans again. They stood up for the people that needed it, and did it knowing they were going against Fox policy. It was amazing to watch them show their humanity.

on edit- This whole thing with the Red Cross not being able to go in and the people not being able to come out is scaring me. And I don't scare easily. Something fishy about all of this.

[Ms. Clio]

28. They've had VIP flights today -- pulled a Spanish diplomat out of the

Convention Center. And early this morning, heard on the scanner that the Chairman of Murphy Oil and a supreme court justice "picking up some articles" were escorted in to the city.


(edited for clarity)

[TheDebbieDee]

30. Supreme Court Justice? Who's that? Scalia?

[Ms. Clio]

31. no, must have been state supreme court

[crispini]

36. Video at crooksandliars

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/02.html#a4763