Let's try to figure this OUT!

[blonndee]

Okay, today the NG finally comes in. There's no way the water was any lower today than it has been, so obviously they waited to come in. Lots of threads on why this might have been.

But...THIS IS TOO WEIRD: WHY, WHY did they all leave tonight? They've locked up all the people at the Convention Center and have established roadblocks to keep people from leaving the city.

1/2 the police have quit, and so there's "a curfew" in the city, I guess because of the danger. But if it's so dangerous, WHY DID THE MILITARY LEAVE?!??

It's completely illogical! And why isn't anybody talking about it? Not here, I mean on TV? Shepherd Smith mentioned it briefly but his segment wasn't very long, before Hannity shut him down.

WHAT IS GOING ON???

[AmBlue]

1. They came in for monkey boy's photo op n/t

[bpilgrim]

18. we can ONLY AFFORD photo-ops with 2 public wars going on

and who knows how many secret ones.

when bush leaves the scene the facde will be put away for future use... though there is a chemical storage facility on fire :scared: maybe the air isn't safe to spend a whole 24 hours in NO :shrug:

peace

[Junkdrawer]

2. Everything is consistent with disease quarantine, BUT...

I read an infectious diseases are highly unlikely...

In a city swallowed by water, public- health officials warn that the most serious threat to the people still trying to survive in New Orleans is, ironically, the lack of water - specifically, clean drinking water.

Despite appalling images including floating corpses and bloated animal carcasses, which have triggered worst-case fears in a stunned nation watching on TV, public-health experts say the odds of a massive disease epidemic like cholera or typhus or malaria in the Gulf states are extremely slim. Those terrifying water- and insect-borne diseases have been essentially dormant in the United States for decades.

Some doctors have raised concerns about tuberculosis, noting that if any of the thousands of people camped out at the Superdome since Sunday had an active case, anyone nearby could have become infected.

TB, where it exists in the United States, tends to affect poor people in urban areas. And, with the stress and exhaustion of the last few days, hurricane refugees are likely to have diminished immune systems.


http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/breaking_news/12540832.htm

[MnFats]

4. uh-huh. Mike Osterholm, director of the center for study

of infectious disease at U. of Minnesota, former epidemiologist for the state, warns that infectious disease outbreaks are highly likely.
There's a fetid soup of raw sewage, animal carcasses, human bodies, rats, mice, toxic chemicals ready to explode.
The clincher, he said, is that a huge hatch of mosquitos is due about now.
The river is too deep and water moves too fast for large scale breeding but all the new vast areas of standing water are ideal places for mosquitoes to breed.
It's coming and not much can be done tostop it.

[preciousdove]

44. Mike Osterholm traded his ethics for fame and joined the spooks

His book "Living Terrors, What America Needs to know to Survive the Coming Bio terror Catastrophe" advocates nationalizing all the state health departments and having them stockpile and ration antibiotics, antivirals and other meds. That doesn't sound too unreasonable but then he goes on to advocate any state who does not toe the line would not get help during a national disaster. Sound familiar? Who decides what "the line" is, Rove?

He has been withholding antibiotics from Minnesotans with Lyme Disease for years. Already blood on his hands. He knows better he just gets fame, power and money for consorting with these neofascist scum.

A.T.E.T.Y.D.T.T.T.C.B.T.Y

[blonndee]

9. I could see that MAYBE, but what about the tens of thousands that just

left yesterday?

[12345]

16. maybe, but where did they go? and are they allowed out?

[applegrove]

3. It pays off with racism in the surround states. Bush let it get to a

and now that it is - people in neighbouring states are terrified of the lawlessness.

A good long "reconnect" with his base.

They will not be solving the issue anytime soon. Simply putting people on busses and directed every single bus to a different town and church group across the USA would have solved that problem.

But Bush does not want to solve the problem.

He gets votes that way.

[SpiralHawk]

5. OMG. Diabolical. they have abandoned the city and its people again

BushCo has turned its back once again.

I wonder if there will be much more food or water tomorrow, now that Bush has gone back to his palace and the photo op is over.

[NYC]

6. They left?

I'm still looking around for today's news. Please tell me what happened. I cannot believe they left.

Also, why don't they want people leaving the city?

[blonndee]

7. Yup, I watched Shepherd Smith again to make sure. They were all

leaving the city in a big convoy right behind him. Geraldo said at the Convention Center, there were about four-six cops right around him and no other authorities as far as the eye could see.

WTF is happening?!?

[Just Me]

12. Geraldo?

??????

[spuddonna]

13. Yeah, welcome to Bizarro World!! n/t

[NYC]

21. Military convoy left, people are not allowed to leave, and

the Red Cross is not allowed in. That is what I have found out so far.

Is there any kind of reason given for anything? I'm still trying to collect the news for the day, and so far, I've gained very little information.

I realize you don't know what is going on, but what is going on? Do you have any idea? Any speculation? Things are supposed to be getting better. This is not better. Why are people not allowed to leave New Orleans, and who gave that order?

Tell me anything you know while I search around for more news. Thanks.

[blonndee]

26. A partial video is at crooksandliars, but the beginning

is cut off...where the relief convoy is leaving.

Smith says there's a "command post" but then also says nobody knows anything, that the people on the bridge have nothing, and that people are not allowed to leave. Geraldo (just down the road or underneath or something) is on the video, screaming for people to be let out of there.

Very very scary.

[NYC]

39. What time of day was that?

When Geraldo was asking for people to be let out.

Sorry to plague you with questions, but you know how difficult it can be to find out what is going on. Thanks.

[Just Me]

40. Where is "Geraldo"?

*smirk* UGH!

[NYC]

42. Convention Center?

Someone said he was asking for people to be let out of there.

I asked someone in a different thread why good samaritans bringing aid were not being allowed into New Orleans. This was the response:

The reason FEMA gave them is they don't want aid going in because it will make the people want to stay where they are.

[blonndee]

46. If you haven't seen the video w/Smith and Geraldo, it is

at http://www.crooksandliars.com. The whole show isn't there but the overpass/convention center footage is.

[NYC]

47. Okay. Not only am I on dial up, but most of the time I get audio only,

no video. However, this seems to be something worth listening to.

I can't belive what is going on today. I'm still scrounging for news, but it seems that things have not improved. The rescue efforts are not truly underway.

The Coast Guard has been rescuing people all along. Good for them. I know the occupants of the Superdome (around 20,000) have been sent to the Astrodome, etc. Other than that, what has been done?

Thanks for the link.

[blonndee]

45. Sorry I missed this question. Hannity and Colmes comes on around 8 or 9

I think..I don't normally watch Faux so I can't remember for sure. And they were live at that time.

[NYC]

48. Damn.

I imagine nothing will be done for them after 9 p.m. I''m downloading the video now. Thanks.

[Just Me]

8. I have seen absolutely NO live feed on the center. Have you?

Where are you getting your information?

[blonndee]

11. This was live on FAUX, and then replayed. It was on Hannity and Colmes.nt

[Just Me]

14. Oh. I avoid FAUX like the plague.

They are poison to me. I wonder why they are "there" and there has been, what otherwise appears to be, a complete media black-out.

[blonndee]

19. self-delete...thought another replay was coming on. nt

[spuddonna]

10. AND Red Cross not allowed into NO, by order of Homeland Security

I'm racking my brain...

I don't get it at all...

The only thing I can think of is that it is a siege - they will wait out these poor people till they die, then clean up the mess...

God, I hope I'm totally wrong, but that's all I can figure...

:cry:

[Booster]

17. I really think they want everybody to start rioting so attention will

be off of their incompetence and on to the "bad" people who are hungry, thirsty and dying. This will definitely backfire because the press is beginning to get pissed and are noticing.

[bpilgrim]

25. thats what it looks like to me, too

but the victims are not following their script :cry:

peace

[NYC]

23. Aren't there people still trapped in their homes?

And those people are at much higher risk than the people at the Convention Center. The people in their homes are likely still dying of dehydration.

Did anyone go house to house getting them out?

[Psyop Samurai]

24. "The only thing I can think of is that it is a siege...

- they will wait out these poor people till they die, then clean up the mess..."

Dear God! Reluctantly, what else are we to think at this point?

There needs to be an immediate nationwide strike, or something! We can't just continue to sit by and watch this.

[Eloriel]

15. Well, here's what I think

ATTN DU RESEARCHERS -- LIHOP/MIHOP evidence stacking up
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4588088&mesg_id=4588088

[barbaraann]

20. Andrea Mitchell was asking that question on 20/20.

Hey, I'm not an elite insider, so I have no clue!

[Geek_Girl]

22. Geraldo actually reported this on Fox

I'm so scared for these people right now.

[Neshanic]

27. Something awfull inside. They do not want us to see, so tonight,

they leave after dropping off what they have. Also they have planned after seeing what they need to do. Then tomorrow they tighten the area, and when they control an area large enough to keep any images escaping...they will let them out to busses, and then can meter out people as they clean furiously the most appalling situations such as dead and murdered bodies.

Then they can say that these are just "urban legends" when it starts to be brought up.

They will admit to some old people dying, but inside that cursed dome are things that would make us shake with horror.

[Lars39]

35. I figure they'll just blow up the dome and the convention center.

[spuddonna]

28. Send CNN news tips, let them try to figure this out too!

link: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form11.html?1

I just sent one saying Red Cross not allowed in by order of Homeland Security because 'the people will stay where the food is', and Fox News is on right now saying they can't get out, Geraldo and Shep Smith are freaking out!

I need to go rest for a few... I literally feel sick to my stomache... Back later everyone...

[titoresque]

32. rest up we're gonna need you! n/t

[spuddonna]

49. Thanks, I just needed a little break... :) n/t

[Booster]

29. If half the police force has quit and the Nat Guard has left, how are

they keeping people from leaving the city? Has it been confirmed that the NG has all left? Something's not right here.

[Neshanic]

31. ABC/PHX reporter live just moments ago said that

the busses that were there, just left. He is utterly perplexed. Said that things are getting very tense.

[titoresque]

33. oh fucking hell!

dear god NOOOOOO!

[Nevernose]

30. Where are they going to spend the night?

The city's flooded, right? SO where are these NG troops going to set up a base camp? In a dry place outside the city. yes, they could work 48 hours straight, but when people do that (even in an emergency), mistakes are made. They'll be back in the morning is my guess. They also probably don't have the equipment to operate at night (it's in Iraq) or the manpower/resources to operate multiple shifts (also in Iraq).

[titoresque]

34. Im freaking out!

Please......EVERYONE, can we please stick to this thread for a bit? Please........if we really all put our heads together we can organize some solid info on this thread, we're all freaking out, as well we should but lets all work together.......WE CAN DO THIS!

i fear we are about to see riots break out all over!

[Beam Me Up]

36. Quarantine? Could they be CREATING a heath disaster?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4600205

[VolcanoJen]

37. Shep Smith and Geraldo's interview is proof, really.

Shep and Geraldo both insisted that the people in the Convention Center are locked in, the people on the bridge are not being permitted to leave because the way out (toward Gretna - Westbank Expressway I'm thinking?) has been barricaded with a checkpoint.

Geraldo says, Let these people go! Let them go find food, water, help, anything. I take from that that they've been abandoned, at least for another night.

This is horrific beyond imagination and I am breaking down myself over here.

[blonndee]

38. There is electricity, food and water in Gretna, Shepherd said. nt

[walldude]

41. No aid in and no people out

they have signed those peoples death warrants. We are moving into Nazi territory here. There are people talking about Impeachment and taking the house in 2006. This is way beyond that folks. This is criminal. And they know it. I can't sleep I'm so freaked out. I'm wondering whats going to happen next.

[political_invader]

43. Anyone watch CBS news or listen to Mike Malloy tonight?

Mike Malloy reported in his first hour that CBS had reported breaking news that truck drivers were loaded monday in Houston Tx. with trailers full of water, Ice and MREs. were also told not to move till told too and low and behold they show up today.

Please help I have been searching for this story I am coming up empty.

If this story is true OMG.

Ill go to Washington myself and perform a CITIZENS ARREST on this entire BFEE.

Peace from a Blue State !!!