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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:58 PM
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This is genocide! Why are 30,000 people still in the convention center!?!
Why haven't they been bussed out? Where is their water and food?

What the fuck?

To call this fucking disgrace anything less than the genocide of poor people is criminal.

I have never in all my life been so ashamed of my country, I am sick with disgust. It broke my heart to look at black people today. It hurt to look at these people that I so love and admire.

Are they trying to create an all out revolution?

This is genocide until they get those people out of there!

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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:04 AM
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1. I was about to post the same question
Simply why? Why are they still there?

As to why they're not getting supplies, this is from the Red Cross web site:

Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans?

* Access to New Orleans is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities and while we are in constant contact with them, we simply cannot enter New Orleans against their orders.

* The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city.

http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:08 AM
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30. What is this? Controlled by the NG and local authorities and the
STATE dept. of Homeland Security. This reads as though Gov. Blanco is doing this. Why in the hell would she do that?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:26 AM
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43. She isn't doing it!
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 03:27 AM by votesomemore
FUBAR IS! His 'homeland security' is a total Fuck Job.

Okay then. Let's get Amnesty International involved.

http://www.amnesty.org/

These people are being held hostage! IN AMERICA?

There are not enough keys on my keyboard to express my outrage.

Never forget. Do not forget this. The racist south will NOT RISE AGAIN!
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:07 AM
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2. still looking for UN hotlines n/t
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liberal43110 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:00 AM
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8. wow, good idea
i hadn't thought of that...i'll look too
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:22 AM
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13. I'm sure Bolton has sabotaged the phone lines already n/t
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:09 AM
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3. Well, I feel like I'm spamming threads tonight, but I keep opening
threads where this is appropriate. Here's what I think is going on:

ATTN DU RESEARCHERS -- LIHOP/MIHOP evidence stacking up
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4588088&mesg_id=4588088
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:09 AM
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4. Murder and mayhem in New Orleans' miserable shelter
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:14 AM
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5. I agree
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:26 AM
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6. Why didn't Stalin allow aid to starving Ukrainians?
I'm sorry, I'm so sick of this and so cynical.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:31 AM
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7. I saw a woman at the Convention Center on CNN. She said,
"This is a Holocaust." I agree that this is Genocide. Hitler starved many of the Jews to death. It can't happen here HUH?
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:02 AM
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9. They're locked in to DIE apparently
This is so freaking horrible.
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:17 AM
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10. Because someone said the "roaches need to die"
And his name is Bushler and his band of thugs. Poor and needy according to FEMA are marked.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:20 AM
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11. I am confused - never been 2 NO
don't pay attention 2 football so don't know 'domes'. Is the convention center different from the Superdome?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:21 AM
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12. Yes, it's 2 different places.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:25 AM
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14. Okay what does America have to buy to get them out of there?
Do we have Corporate sponsors yet? How about an internet auction? Fucking Ghouls!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:27 AM
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15. You are posting this at 1 a.m. Eastern time.
Are you telling me that as of 1 a.m. Eastern time on Saturday, there are still 30,000 people in the Convention Center?

I cannot believe this. And I cannot believe that the Red Cross is not allowed in because it will encourage people to stay and encourage others to return.

When is the last time anyone mentioned the people in attics and on rooftops? Are they still stranded?
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:29 AM
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16. They're locked in and relief has left.
Even the FAUX reporters are screaming for help. A partial video of the Hannity and Colmes show is at http://www.crooksandliars.com.

Shepherd Smith and Geraldo are there.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:32 AM
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17. it is a disgrace
I have no words
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:32 AM
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18. There comes a point when the greatest propagandists in the world
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 02:13 AM by NYC
just can't spin things anymore.

How can they do this? Other than wanting those people dead, how can they explain it? What excuses can they make?

And if FEMA doesn't want them to stay (based on Red Cross remark) why the hell don't they let them leave? Why are doctors and nurses not in there with them?
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:33 AM
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19. My point is:
How can they be this obvious, and expect to get away with it?
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:48 AM
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25. That's the scariest part of all. nt
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:12 AM
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31. This video won't play for me. Could you please explain the relief
that has left? Please tell me it isn't the convoy that went in to accompany Bush** today. Where are all of those buses that were so neatly lined up?
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:16 AM
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32. Okay, it was at the beginning of H&C with Shepherd Smith, who said that
the people did get a little food and water today but that the relief was leaving as he spoke, and there was a looooongg line of trucks driving out. He said something about "there's a curfew" and gestured to the road, and then said that once again the people are left with nothing.

Does anybody have the complete video or a transcript? The crooksandliars video starts after the broadcast has already been going on.

Who else was watching?

On some thread here, someone else said that all the buses were either "left" or "just left." You'll have to search, I don't remember which thread it was.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:23 AM
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33. Here: (it was actually on a thread I started but not my post)
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:14 AM
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41. Thanks for all of this info. I am losing it again!
Jesus, I just can't imagine how those people are coping with the constant assurances of help, help arriving and then leaving, and knowing what awaits them.

I would recommend a national strike where folks peacefully assemble either outside of NO or the WH. If I truly thought that enough people would participate to actually make a difference. I can't believe that this is happening!
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Splatter Phoenix Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:39 AM
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35. Geraldo is a hero.
He sounds like a man on the very verge of a mental collapse, however...the denial-dam is breaking?
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:47 AM
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24. an MRE and a liter, cameras turn off, see ya (in Octoba')
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:39 AM
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20. If they're still there, that's proof positive....
this is a RACIST GENOCIDE in progress.

I wonder where Bush will be on Saturday and Sunday while more people DIE?
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VIHMH5L50P Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:42 AM
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21. It's already genocide
Aaron Brown on CNN just said that officials expect "tens of thousands" to end up dead.

Hello America????? Human actions, not nature, caused all that death.

It walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, smells like a duck...it is one.

The storm didn't create the flood, broken levees did, and the flood didn't cause the death, but human failure (government) to rescue and tend to people in need did.

Depriving people of food, water, sanitation, and protection from thugs brought in from the outside to shoot people, and thousands of people locked in NO while pretending that their buses were coming soon but never did; all that led to the death.

All that was human action/inaction, including the breaking of the levee that caused the flood (sorry, I've been around flood zones lots of years and I know no goddammed levees break after only one day of high water. NONE!).

That's what all these reporters have been getting all emotional about on live TV.

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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:46 AM
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23. This is a man made disaster and that mans name is George Bush. n/t
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:05 AM
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29. Interesting about breaking of levees. I heard it was dynamited too.
But only on DU, with no URL's/etc. to back it up.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:45 AM
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22. Have they been fed?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:55 AM
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26. I'm totally stunned.
I've been here on DU pretty much all day and watching the news-not cable though-and from what I gathered, those people were getting help!!! It is midnight here on the west coast and just can't believe those people are still there!

:argh:
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:56 AM
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27. Kick and nom
seriously, wtf. Half these people will be dead before they get them help.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:58 AM
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28. Please keep this around people don't know that 30,000 are still being held
in NO.

MAKE THEM HELP!!
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:38 AM
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34. OK... where's the actual proof for this?
I'm seeing articles that suggest the convention center people were bussed off.

Can somebody provide a factual trustworthy link for this???
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:39 AM
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36. The proof is the Smith and Geraldo footage from tonight.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:47 AM
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38. Oh my fucking word
I am.....



I can't.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:52 AM
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39. I'm lost... does anyone have any actual text of what was said?
I don't have the bandwidth to download these videos.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:42 AM
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37. I will once again say a prayer for those poor people before I fall asleep.
These people should not have to suffer like that, especially the babies and the elderly. It's like I am looking at my own family suffering. I still can't believe this is happening. God please give them strength. :-(
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:57 AM
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40. Chairman of the Red Cross - Bonnie Hunter - Political Donations
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:17 AM
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42. They are heros!
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 03:20 AM by votesomemore
And should be awarded Purple Hearts! And not the stupid rw kind.

Yes. Let my people Go. NOW, DUMBASS. No cockpiece is gonna get you outta this one. I'm furious. Humiliated. Thanks mr. cockstrut. Gawed I hate him. More and more of us HATE HIM!
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:29 AM
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44. OK. Saw the video. Time for surgical removal of the cancer...
from the White House.

That all these people are still there on the night after "Bush's grand arrival" speaks volumes.

As much as it breaks my heart for my beloved country, it's time for revolution.

"Impeachment" is now too quaint an idea.
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