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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:48 AM
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Day 6 And I Am Asking - Have They Decided To Let Everyone Die? Quarantine?
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 06:49 AM by DistressedAmerican
THIS IS GOING TO SOUND HORRIBLE AND MOST LIKELY UNBELIEVABLE BUT:

All reports I keep getting indicate that the people are being kept in the city against their will. I have seen many reports of volunteers being kept from entering the city to help. There is little or no food or water being air-dropped, even to the largest and well known groups. Days and days have past and with the exception of the time Bush was in the area yesterday, I have not seen anything in the way of assistance.

Why?

I can only find one explanation in my mind to explain these bizarre and perverse actions while we all watch thousands starving and dehydrating to death.

I NOW BELIEVE THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN QUIETLY QUARANTINED!



I believe that they fear airborne diseases have infected the remaining survivors and they do not want the infected to leave the city and possible spread the bug. I have concluded that they have made the decision to keep most there and let them die.

I really do not believe that this is the only explanation I can come up with! But, it is the only scenario that makes any sense to me given the situation and the complete lack of a response.

I think they are just going to let most die. That is why no food. That is why no water. Those things (IN SOME TWISTED FREAK POLITICOS'S MIND) would just prolong the suffering of those that they are killing off!

Am I crazy? Have I finally gone TOO paranoid? Or do you folks think that there may be something to this hypothesis?

Help me out. I am losing it here!


Still not convinced? Just watch this fox news video of Shep and Geraldo. There is no other answer that I can think of:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/02.html#a4763
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:50 AM
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1. Oh god, DA, I didn't want to admit, i was thinking this today too.
I saw that video of Geraldo crying...

We haven't heard of any major outbreaks but I haven't heard a peep out of the CDC either.

Do I think they are capable of this? yes.

Do I think that they could get away with it. goddammit I hope not.

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:52 AM
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5. Where The Hell Is The Fucking CDC? I HAve Not Seen One Since This Started
Something is definitely not right about that!
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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:50 AM
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2. No one is covering this??
anyone who is trying to report this is scilenced
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:52 AM
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3. I'm with you
Your eyes are not deceiving you.

The Superdome and the Convention Center have been turned into Concentration Camps and Bush is just waiting for the germs that are festering to do their job. Then it will be over and he will claim that no one could have imagined that they would have gotten sick and died.

Can you spell GENOCIDE? I know you can.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:52 AM
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4. What happened to the convoy of guard trucks loaded with supplies?
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:54 AM
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7. No Idea. Sounds Like They Just Locked Up The Folks In The Dome And Center.
As far as I know no aid was distributed. I never saw a single person getting handed a bottle of water! Not one after they made that big show of rolling in with hundreds possibly thousads of troops!

How can that be if they are actually distributing the stuff.

Wouldn't we have seen folks eating drinking and thanking God that they were getting some help?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:56 AM
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9. Supplies were delivered
and distributed.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:00 AM
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15. Where Do You Catch That? Have You Seen It? Actual Food And Water Being
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 07:01 AM by DistressedAmerican
consumed.

My understanding was that people that got on busses were getting MRE's and water. I have yet to see a single person who is still on the ground get a single bottle of water.

What am I missing?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:04 AM
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18. I've seen and heard of supplies delivered
both to the convention center and the superdome on the news and from a more personal source.

I have a friend who is holed up on Convention Center Blvd. He has received rations, water, and vodka (for a wound in his leg...he is diabetic).
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:06 AM
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20. How Long Did It Take To Get Some Relief?
Glad to hear something is going in. How many days in did he get the stuff?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:09 AM
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23. Just yesterday.
Fortunately, he cooked a couple pork chops for himself before the storm.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:10 AM
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25. The ones to worry about
are the Route 10 people.

As of yesterday, they were being ignored.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:11 AM
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26. Be Sure To Stay In Touch With Him! People Therew Need All The Support
they can get. I am glad to hear some stuff is coming in.

I sure as hell hope he is right about the security situation improving. There are reports of two chidren raped and killed at the convention center over night.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:13 AM
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28. The CC is still not completely under control
He says its getting better, but they are still finding the "bad actors" so to speak.
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:52 AM
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6. I watched that clip of Smith and Rivera ...
about the citizens ( I REFUSE to say REFUGEES ! ) not being able to leave the convention center or the city itself ... words escape me ... I am past words I am just mad ...

ok back on topic to what you were saying - I don't know , I don't know what to think anymore . 6 Day and no help - in an American city ? Am I seeing things ?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:56 AM
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8. Where are you getting your reports?
nt
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:57 AM
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10. The M$M
even FAUX News is reporting this.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:58 AM
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11. Try The Video Link For Starters. Other Than That, CNN, MSNBC
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 06:59 AM by DistressedAmerican
Anderson Cooper on Bill Maher, NPR, BBC.

They are all telling a similar tale.

Have you seen something I should know about? I desperately do not want to believe this is true. If you knowof something else I should see, please get it too me. I really want to know.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:01 AM
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16. Well, I have a friend in NO right now
And he's not claiming this.

He is claiming that things are disorganized, but they are happening.
We've been in contact via a mutual friend.

(believe it or nor some phone lines and cells still working).
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:04 AM
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19. Has He Tried To Get Out? Is He With The Other Large Groups?
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 07:05 AM by DistressedAmerican
What HAS he seen?

Shep and Geraldo are there and broadcastring what they are seeing and it is a horror show.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:08 AM
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22. He's expecting to get out in a few days.
Mostly its still just chaos. Less chaos, to be sure. The soldiers have been separating the violent types from the less violence. Apparently
some crew with guns have been lording it over those without guns. They are being brought under control.

They aren't shipping people out yet...he thinks they are triaging people.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:09 AM
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24. Sure Hope He Is Right! Now That The Sun IS Up Again, There May Be Some
movement.

Please let there be some real progress on saving these people's lives!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:12 AM
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27. Call about the Route 10 people
Hundreds of people trapped on Route 10. They are the ones who have received no help thus far.

They are going to die unless something is done. No one knows they are there.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:14 AM
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30. CALL YOUR REPS PEOPLE! THERE ARE THOUSANDS DYING RIGHT NOW!
Get these folks off of that damn overpass TODAY!!!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:59 AM
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12. I'm always skeptical of conspiracy theories
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 06:59 AM by fujiyama
but I'm thinking a quarantine may be a possibility as to why these people haven't been allowed to leave.

There's a thread somewhere here that discusses a possible medical research laboratory in NO dealing with highly infectious diseases.

If this were destroyed or the microbes were to have been released we could be in even deeper shit. Is the government no covering up a possibility of an outbreak? I suppose the only way to find out is if there are accounts of people showing symptoms. Of course, they may just end up starving to death first.





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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:19 AM
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34. I am askeptic is well...
but I think DA is on to something here...This is NO conspiracy theory..they really are NOT letting people leave....Ever seen the movie Outbreak? I know Hollywood blows things way out of proportion, but there are some simliarities here...Really scary stuff.

When we start seeing people show up in those big Biohazard suits, we will know for sure....God help us all.
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:00 AM
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13. I believe you are right...
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 07:01 AM by pointblank
to prevent cholera, dysentery etc outbreaks from spreading.

Unfortunately this may be the RIGHT move. Imagine a widespread Cholera outbreak in this country?

It is horrible to say, I know, but you really have to weigh the situation logically....

the only problem is that almost a week later, there is still inadequate healthcare available to these people....OMG what a mess...I am so sad.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:03 AM
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17. Cholera Is Not Really The Big Threat. Airborne Illnesses Like Typhiod And
TB are a greeater risk of spreading way from the contaminated water...
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:07 AM
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21. Really?
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 07:08 AM by pointblank
Well either way, I hate to admit it, but it may be the right move...IMHO


Edited to say: I am not condoning keeping people in those horrid conditions...WAY MORE needs to be done if they really are quarantining them.

Fuck you Mr Bush, Fuck you very much
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:13 AM
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29. They Had Sanjay On CNN On The First Oer Second Day. He Was Saying It.
I do not know that much. He mainly siad that choloera and such were waterborne. That the real threat was the outbreak of an airborne infection.

Horrific
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:17 AM
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32. Is cholera not contagous once a person is infected though>
I mean if they le a bunch of people leave NOLA with Cholera, or dysentery or whatever, will it not become a health threat wherever they end up? I jsut dont know a lot about those diseases...I was never taught, they WERE almost non-existent in this country
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:00 AM
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14. Fossil Fuel!
What we SEE, is what it IS!!!
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:15 AM
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31. I just watched that clip...
I am now scared. I have heard a lot of talk about the end of our society as we know it coming, and I am now becoming convinced. I am at a loss for words. Holy Shit.


A new found ounce of respect for geraldo and Shepard Smith...and maybe even Faux News......Still doesnt make up for their past though...a LOT more truth is needed.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:17 AM
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33. I have had the same thoughts
Help is coming to Mississippi and Alabama has gotten plenty of help, but the people of New Orleans are suffering beyond anything I ever thought possible in this country. You have to wonder if this government has any intention of helping these poor people. The general on the ground yesterday replied to Martin Savidge that it was "hard to get in here." That was his reply when asked what has taken so long. The general then said, "It takes a long time to get in here, how long did it take you?" To which Savidge replied, "I have been here." They are saying that they couldn't get rescue workers into the convention center because it wasn't safe, yet Brian Williams rode up in an SUV - just him and his camera guy, and no one attacked him. Heard a story yesterday that they are tagging people in the hospitals for which ones will be allowed to get food and water when and if it comes. This is UNBELIEVABLE and UNACCEPTABLE! I have never in my life been as angry as I am now. I am in charge of the relief effort at work, but have to wonder what guarantee is there that any of the money we have raised will help the people who need it most?
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:33 AM
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35. More Of The Same From The Scanner Monitors!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:33 AM
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36. Quarantine Kick
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