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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:33 AM
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TomPetty : "Feel Like A Refugee"
Anybody remember that song?

The debate this morning on C-SPAN has focused somewhat on this term. Do you think it is inappropriate? Doesn't the term "refugee" somehow distance the person referred to and makes them somehow not part of "us"? They are foreigners. No need to feel too much compassion? They are "refugees"?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:36 AM
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1. ref·u·gee (from Dictionary.com)
(n) One who flees in search of refuge, as in times of war, political oppression, or religious persecution.

Yes, it's inappropriate.:thumbsdown:
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:40 AM
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2. how is it inappropriate?
the people in new orleans are fleeing in search of refuge, they are being politically oppressed by the lack of food and the neglect of the relief agencies.

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:42 AM
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3. Actually, you have a point...
:thumbsup:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:44 AM
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4. If you sitting on a rooftop
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 07:45 AM by hobbit709
you're definitely in need of refuge-
1. Protection or shelter, as from danger or hardship.
2. A place providing protection or shelter.
3. A source of help, relief, or comfort in times of trouble.
So I'd say if you're in need of refuge then you are a refugee by seeking shelter
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:00 AM
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5. The Oxford American Dictionary sez
"A person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution or natural disaster."


I guess it depends on your definition of "is".

:)
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:03 AM
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6. I think anyone who is forced to take one single step in any direction
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 08:05 AM by Kire
is a refugee.

key word being "forced"
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:06 AM
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7. These folks don't have to leave the United States because the
US has left them. New Orleans does not appear to be a part of the America that I grew up in. It looks like a 3rd world country.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:38 AM
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8. It was originally used in regard to the Huguenots
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 08:38 AM by jpgray
The ones who emigrated to England in the seventeenth century when the Edict of Nantes was revoked. And the strict definition remains: One who, owing to religious persecution or political troubles, seeks refuge in a foreign country.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:21 AM
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9. This topic was discussed in several threads yesterday
Here is one of them . . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4579276

I think it is inaccurate and disrespectful to call the victims refugees, but many folks apparently think that is just semantics.
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