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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:21 AM
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Dutch viewer: Bush's completely staged New Orleans mercy mission
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/002485.html

Dutch viewer Frank Tiggelaar writes:

There was a striking dicrepancy between the CNN International report on the Bush visit to the New Orleans disaster zone, yesterday, and reports of the same event by German TV.

ZDF News reported that the president's visit was a completely staged event. Their crew witnessed how the open air food distribution point Bush visited in front of the cameras was torn down immediately after the president and the herd of 'news people' had left and that others which were allegedly being set up were abandoned at the same time.

The people in the area were once again left to fend for themselves, said ZDF.

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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:23 AM
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1. I knew it!
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:23 AM
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2. Of course it was a completely staged event.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:24 AM
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3. This doesn't surprise me in the least. n/t
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:24 AM
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4. everything that fucker does is a staged event
He is a fake human being.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:18 AM
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17. At this point, I am waiting for the alien to erupt from
*'s chest - just like in the movie.

:grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:26 AM
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5. Yep, I am totally sure of it as well
The people at the Convention Center STILL have not been evacuated, the buses, relief trucks arriving, repairs on the levee were all, coincidentally, suddenly appearing so they could be shown on a split screen with bush's arrival. It is beyond despicable.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:26 AM
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6. Potemkin villages... n/t
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:30 AM
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7. Apt description.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:32 AM
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8. I've been calling bu$h* The Potemkin Village Idiot for over four years
and now we have the earsplitting sound of that Potemkin Village falling apart.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:39 AM
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9. kicked and nominated!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:52 AM
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10. I am just waiting for the world leaders to condemn Bush
Just like after the 2004 election fiasco, we need their help!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:53 AM
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11. the whole world has seen ANOTHER bush PR moment - this time it cost lives
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:53 AM
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12. How can we prove it?
It is one thing for all of us to know that he continues to do crap like this, but how can we prove to EVERYONE that this is the case. We need to strip every bit of sugar coating from this monster.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:57 AM
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14. Ask ZDF News for their video. Contact their reporters.
Maybe they have video of the Bush lackeys disassembling the stage.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:41 AM
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21. The link to the story
Pasted the following link into your media player. It is in German, but is all documented

mms://213.254.239.51/tagesschau/msmedia/2005/0902/TV-20050902-2032-4601.wm.hi.wmv
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:03 AM
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25. At what part is the It was staged? The side shot of Bush in front
of a stand?
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:05 AM
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26. The woman reporter talked about it
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 11:08 AM by DrDebug
It was the third or fourth story. It was at the end of her report.

About 5:00 into the story.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:29 AM
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32. Sehr gut. Ich habe zugehört und ic habe es sehr interessant gefunden.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:40 AM
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33. I know enough German to understand it. Transcript (english) + MP3
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 11:40 AM by DrDebug
But talking with the whole der/dem/den stuff is waaay too difficult for me.

Nevertheless - Translation of the Transcript:

From the last report. Now live from Biloxi, Christina Adelhard (sp?)

Two minutes ago the President has passed here in his convoy, but what has happened here in Biloxi during the day is unimaginable. Suddenly salvage troops appeared. Suddenly clean up crews appeared . That was something the people had not witnessed here before and that in an area where it was not necessary to clean up on a grand scale, because nobody lives here anymore. The people have moved on into the city. Nevertheless the President travels here. The press therefore can take wonderful pictures which is supposed to suggest that the President where there and the help will also arrive. The scale of the natural catastrophe has shocked me, but the level of choreography has also shocked me. With this we return to Hamburg.

German State Television ARD and ZDF. News bulletin 20:04:34-20:05:23 Sept 2nd 2005.

MP3 file of the interview:
http://rapidshare.de/files/4684828/01-_tagesschau_de_-_tagesschau__20_00_Uhr__02_09_05.mp3.html

I couldn't convert or cut and paste the video file, so I made an MP3 clip out of it.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:57 AM
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15. well,
there seems to be emerging information on this board that the two girls picked for Bush's photo-op were, in fact, foreign nationals (exchnge students) that lived 17 miles from Biloxi and were there only to salvage clothes. In their town, only the electricity is down.

However, this information is sketchy, but proof is emerging. Looks like they slapped this one together so fast that they forgot to erase a paper trail from the internet.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 AM
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16. I saw that clip of him talking to them...
and the interview with them that followed. It was absolutely sickening, the feeling I got. They were somewhere else during the storm, I want to see him talk to some of the people at the dome.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:37 AM
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20. They definitely did not have regional accents
They sounded like Aussies or New Zealanders. They were sisters. I heard them say they were there to get clothing to a talking head who interviewed them for their reaction to meeting the monkeyboy.

What, he couldn't meet with any LOCALS? Too afraid of any REAL interaction? Fucking wuss!
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:54 AM
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13. So was this one..
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:42 AM
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22. That is the "WTF were you doing on the AF1 flight, ya douche" photo
Pulling his pud, maybe? You take your briefing ENROUTE--you land and you have the bubble. Instead, he stands around, thanking and appreciating, and getting info he should have gotten while in the goddamn air enroute to the location. And all the while, trucks full of food and water and medicine are held up so he gets a jazzy "split screen" from the media.

He was trying so damn hard not to repeat Poppy's "split screen" error, which showed caskets arriving from Dover while he was laughing, smiling, and gladhanding, that he put his pathetic, cretinous IMAGE ahead of lives. Asshole!!!!

Push the theme mentioned here yesterday: WHAT CAME FIRST, THE CHICKEN OR THE AID??? Push it hard!!!!!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:03 AM
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24. Look at Chertoff.s eyes: he has a evil, dead soul look. Chilling. n/t
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:12 PM
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39. Look at the flag in this picture..I think they screwed up on this photo op
lol
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:19 PM
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41. I didn't notice that before!
Was it photoshopped or is the Country really in TROUBLE?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:18 PM
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40. What's bush saying?...
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 09:18 PM by zidzi
"This is how long my banana stalks are!"?
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:22 AM
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18. kick
:kick:
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:23 AM
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19. He is a POS n/t
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myrmenki Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:58 AM
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23. A link to the zdf article
I don't find any video at their site, because they only seem to work with MS IE. Which I don't have. Here's a link to all their Katrina videos: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/inhalt/16/0,4070,2369104-1,00.html

But here's a written summary of what their correspondents saw:

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFheute/inhalt/23/0,3672,2370967,00.html

But it doesn't talk about actual dismantling of distribution points. It says, under the headline "Räumarbeiten nur für Bush?" (Clearing up only for Bush?)

Wo der US-Präsident das Katastrophengebiet besuchte, räumten Hilfstrupps vorher ordentlich auf - aber nur dort. Aus Biloxi zitierte ZDF-Korrespondentin Claudia Rüggeberg verzweifelte Einwohner, Bush solle in seinen Limousinen statt lauter Bodyguards und Assistenten lieber Hilfsgüter herbeischaffen.

Entlang seiner Route hätte Räumtrupps vor Bushs Besuch Schutt weggeräumt und Leichen geborgen. Dann sei Bush wieder abgereist "und mit ihm", so Rüggeberg, "die ganzen Hilfstrupps". An der Lage in Biloxi habe sich sonst nichts verändert, es fehle an allem.


(My attempt of a translation:

Wherever Bush visited the area of disaster, relief troupes did a proper cleaning up - but only in that place. From Biloxi, ZDF correspondent Claudia Rüggeberg quoted despairing neighbours that Bush ought to bring along relief goods in his luxury cars instead of bodyguards and personal assistants.

Along his route, clearing troupes cleared away rubble and dead bodies. Then, Bush departed and, according to Rüggeberg "all relief troupes along with him". Apart from that, the situation in Biloxi didn't change, and everything is lacking.)
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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:51 PM
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38. direct link to real player file of this report (in German)
http://real.mdcs.dtag.de:8080/viewsource/template.html?nuyhtgwEhAz6wEhAz6lxA6y6ye6mb8l9oC4falmm3f

just copy and open in Real Player, the interview with the ZDF correspondent you quoted begins at 4:30 minutes.

It is from yesterday's (September 2) ZDF prime time news report ("Heute-Journal"). Your translation, BTW, is perfect.
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:05 AM
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27. Can someone please find this video and send it to the MSM?
Send it to one of the reporters who actually gives a shit (i.e., not one of the ones with their fat ass behind a desk).
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SittingBull Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:06 AM
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28. Second correspondent
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:16 AM
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29. It's a kick to watch CNN, then switch over to ARD or ZDF or BBC...
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 11:19 AM by wake.up.america
Don't you guys get news coverage from international news organizations? Radio and TV. Some people are, if you are not, switch over.
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:21 AM
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31. I don't want to watch foreign news.
I want my own media to report these things to my fellow citizens. Goddammit.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:20 AM
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30. You know those gut feelings you get
When things don't ring true. That's how I felt when I watched Bush, it just look phoney.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:47 AM
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35. I know I feel like I've been kicked in the gut
repeatedly by this bunch of miscreants. I totally agree, everything this idiot prince does looks phoney.

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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:46 AM
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34. RoveCo watched "Wag the Dog" once too often
The difference is the pResident is making untoward advances on the American people and not just a particular "Firefly" (or whatever they were) girl. So, staging of anything would not surprise me. This whole pResidency has been staged from his "town hall meetings" to his ranch in Crawford. Why would this be any different?

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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:48 AM
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36. Kicked and recommended, and I'll find the DU links from last night
about the Aaron Brown interview with these 'staged' sisters who weren't even from Biloxi, would have had to travel about 18 miles on non-passable roads, and looked as if they had just stepped out of the shower. No way were these two 'victims.' Just when you think its impossible to be more disgusted with this bfee, something else comes up. We have to impeach this bag of evil.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:34 PM
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37. I read this and can't shake the image of Hitler that came to mind
I have no idea if Hitler ever did such a thing, but that's sure what flew into my head.

OTOH, that's what the Potemkin Village was all about that others mentioned, isn't it? Just for show for the outside world.
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