Where is the outrage from any Dem even thinking about 2008???

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

One would think that even cynical and self-serving DINOs would realize that this tragedy presents a prime opportunity to reclaim the African-American vote in 2006 and 2008...

WHERE THE FUCK ARE OUR DEMOCRATIC LEADERS!!!!!

JB

[xultar]

1. Clark stuck it to BUSH on Thursday. So there was one and it was CLARK!

In the Des Moines Register with a blistering statement on Thursday and
Tuesday or Wed in another statement.

[JNelson6563]

2. Yeah, he's the only one I've heard of who's

calling Team Bush on their fuck up. I understand Hillary's pissed about price gouging on gas but I haven't heard anything else from her or any of our would be "leaders".

Julie

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

4. I thought Clark was the best Dem candidate in 2004, but he wasn't anointed

Kerry was propped into position by his blue-blood power brokers to the detriment of our country.

Speaking of Kerry...where's that opportunistic DINO on this issue???

While I'm at it, I would like to voice a huge "I told you so" to those who defended Kerry over his tepid response to the Downing Street documents. Worthless and predictable.

JB

[napi21]

3. The hell with 2008 right now, where are ANY Dems?

I saw Nancy Pelosi yesterday, and the way she was talking, I question why she's the House Minority Leader!

I haven't heard any of them, except the Mayor of NO who really said what he felt, and Mary Landreau who was busy thanking Shrub!

I don't consider myself a radical activist, and most of the time, I argue with them here on DU, but this time, even I'm pissed! Where the hell are they, and why aren't THEY displaying outrage???

[xultar]

5. AGAIN Landrieu was doing what she had to do cuz Bush would stall

aid.

Listen to Randi's show from friday. Go to http://www.therandirhodeshow.com and download the show to be informed please!

You know how vindictive the * administration is and they would think nothing of punishing the people under Landry's watch just to fuck with her.

Your post is unfair and hurtful.

[yurbud]

9. a better response is to pre-empt punishment

"I know I am risking foot-dragging and retaliation from the Bush administration on this, BUT..."


Then anything less than a perfect response would prove her point.

Her approach leaves the ball in Bush's court--he could still choose to do absolutely nothing and get away with it since she gave him a pass.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

17. THANK YOU. It's not in her nature to be anything but a Bush ass-kisser

Landrieu, in her attempt to ride the "middle road," has only PISSED OFF her Democratic base. Frankly, I hope she is run out of the party and fails in her re-election. Who needs Dems like her these days?

JB

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

That is such BULLSHIT. Bush IS NOT going to withhold aid.

Landrieu comes from a Louisiana political dynasty and was narrowly elected by running towards the middle and hedging on issues like abortion and religion in schools.

If Landrieu REALLY THOUGHT that Bush was going to try to screw her, then she would take the offensive and not lick Bush's ass. The Mayor of NO took the offensive against Bush and came off appearing strong and indignant (even if he shares some blame). Landrieu could EASILY do the same to provide herself some cover, but it's not in her nature because she is a worthless, wishy-washy DINO. PERIOD.

JB

[xultar]

18. He held it till he arrived. Need more evidence. They made people in

a shelter wait to eat lunch till Laura Bush arrived so the cameras would get photo ops of people eating.

WTF don't you get.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

25. Tinfoil hat, please. Bush is inept & racist in this, not intentional.

This tragedy does nothing to help Bush and only presents a major political problem for 2006. His lacadasical attitude about the hurricane and "those folks down there" was born from his priviledged background and racism...not any malicious intent.

I guess you believe that had Rove call upon God to facilitate a MIHOP situation so that martial law can be instituted nationwide? Let's not confuse this situation with conspiracy theories, please.

JB

[xultar]

29. Doesn't mean that his people aren't

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

7. I propose a new acronym - FTTW DEMS = finger to the wind dems

At this point, I'm VERY OPEN to a third party progressive candidate led by someone WHO DOESN'T FUCKING POLL ON WHETHER IT'S OK OR NOT TO MAKE ANY STATEMENT. WE NEED A LEADER, NOT LIMP DISHRAGS.

This is our country too, and goddamn it it's TIME TO TAKE IT BACK FROM THE INCOMPETENT FASCISTS AND WIMP DEMS.

JB

[yurbud]

6. Obama called for hearings, Hillary bashed oil price gouging

I'm not a particular fan of either, but the response is encouraging.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

8. I understand that Kucinich was on CSPAN

saying that the troops are stationed in the wrong Gulf.

[Sapphire Blue]

11. Floor Statement of Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich: (09/02/05)

Floor Statement of Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich:
The Supplemental for Hurricane Katrina

WASHINGTON - September 2 - Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH) gave the following speech today on the House floor during a special session to provide relief money for the victims of Hurricane Katrina:


“This amount of money is only a fraction of what is needed and everyone here knows it. Let it go forward quickly with heart-felt thanks to those who are helping to save lives with necessary food, water, shelter, medical care and security. Congress must also demand accountability with the appropriations. Because until there are basic changes in the direction of this government, this tragedy will multiply to apocalyptic proportions.

“The Administration yesterday said that no one anticipated the breach of the levees. Did the Administration not see or care about the 2001 FEMA warning about the risk of a devastating hurricane hitting the people of New Orleans? Did it not know or care that civil and army engineers were warning for years about the consequences of failure to strengthen the flood control system? Was it aware or did it care that the very same Administration which decries the plight of the people today, cut from the budget tens of millions needed for Gulf-area flood control projects?

“Countless lives have been lost throughout the South with a cost of hundreds of billions in ruined homes, businesses, and the destruction of an entire physical and social infrastructure.

“The President said an hour ago that the Gulf Coast looks like it has been obliterated by a weapon. It has. Indifference is a weapon of mass destruction.

“Our indifferent government is in a crisis of legitimacy. If it continues to ignore its basic responsibility for the health and welfare of the American people, will there ever be enough money to clean up after their indifference?

“As our government continues to squander human and monetary resources of this country on the war, people are beginning to ask, “Isn’t it time we began to take care of our own people here at home? Isn’t it time we rescued our own citizens? Isn’t it time we fed our own people? Isn’t it time we sheltered our own people? Isn’t it time we provided physical and economic security for our own people?” And isn’t it time we stopped the oil companies from profiting from this tragedy?

“We have plenty of work to do here at home. It is time for America to come home and take care of its own people who are drowning in the streets, suffocating in attics, dying from exposure to the elements, oppressed by poverty and illness, wracked with despair and hunger and thirst.

“The time is NOW to bring back to the United States the 78,000 National Guard troops currently deployed overseas into the Gulf Coast region.

“The time is NOW to bring back to the US the equipment which will be needed for search and rescue, for clean up and reclamation.

“The time is NOW for federal resources, including closed Army bases, to be used for temporary shelter for those who have been displaced by the hurricane.

“The time is NOW to plan massive public works, with jobs going to the people of the Gulf Coast states, to build new levees, new roads, bridges, libraries, schools, colleges and universities and to rebuild all public institutions, including hospitals. Medicare ought to be extended to everyone, so every person can get the physical and mental health care they might need as a result of the disaster.

“The time is NOW for the federal government to take seriously the research of scientists who have warned for years about the dangers of changes in the global climate, and to prepare other regions of the country for other possible weather disasters until we change our disastrous energy policies.

“The time is NOW for changes in our energy policy, to end the domination of oil and fossil fuel and to invest heavily in alternative energy, including wind and solar, geothermal and biofuels.

“As bad as this catastrophe will prove to be, it is in fact only a warning. Our government must change its direction, it must become involved in making America a better place to live, a place where all may survive and thrive. It must get off the path of war and seek the path of peace, peace with the natural environment, peace with other nations, peace with a just economic system.”

http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=33675

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

14. Kucinich = DEM OF CONVICTION AND SPINE

I only wish we had about 1000 more Kuciniches.

JB

[mzmolly]

10. Clark and Edwards both made profound statements against Bush's

Government. They discussed the results in the context of a lack of proper priority and leadership.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

12. Were these statements written or oral? Carried nationally?

It's very Kerryesque to make a strong statement to the small press or in written format, but then appear more measured when the message goes out more broadly.

WE NEED MAJOR DEMS ON NATIONAL T.V. NOW! Where the fuck is Biden? There isn't a camera in Washington that he hasn't stood in front of...but now all the sudden he's disappeared.

JB

[mzmolly]

15. WE don't get to decide who gets on TV.

We have a biased media and they decide.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

20. AGAIN, BULLSHIT. Edwards can't get national attention???

Come on, I realize that there is a corporate bias in the media, but if Edwards called MSNBC, CNN, or CBS and said that he would be in their studios to make a major statement THEY WOULD AIR HIS MESSAGE. The same goes for any other major Democratic figure. If they REALLY wanted to get on national T.V. to make a statement, I can guarantee you that it would get aired.

JB

[mzmolly]

21. It depends upon the circumstances. The media isn't going to request

his presence to comment on this disaster. I don't think most people who wish to comment on situations beg the media for air time. I don't agree that they'd offer it to him if he did.

Clark is on FAUX news now, perhaps he'll get time to comment or perhaps he'll be stiffled.

[napi21]

23. That's only partly true. IF you create enough controversy, you get

on TV! Just think back to the recen few times when Dems were asked to apologize for what they said! Their comments & their apolgizies were on TV!

The Dems have to learn how to USE the Press! Nobody is going to get coverage when they don't say anything interesting!

For God sake! We're not dealing with newbies here. Most of these idiots have been in Wash. for YEARS! They know better!

[mzmolly]

24. We don't need that kind of attention. Look what the media did to Dean.

The media has great power. We have to realize that taking back the media is essential for a reason. We also have to be aware that many who own the media have an agenda and it's not the same as ours. This isn't as simple as "playing the press" like perhaps it was 20 years ago.

We will get our turn at the mic on this issue, but it won't be for a while yet.

[napi21]

26. We have the opportunity NOW at the mike! The majority of the

public already recognizes that ShrubCo screwed up this time! I don't think we can afford to "wait our turn!" We need to take advantage of the opportunity while it's here...out in front and headline feature in all the news media!

[mzmolly]

27. Not yet. They're still showing LA and trying to evacuate people.

We'll have the opportunity soon however.

[napi21]

13. They may have, but if I didn't hear it, just how much does it mean?

I hate to recommend acting like the Pubs, but in cituations like this, EVERY Dem that holds an office should be holding a damn Press Conference, and singing the SAME SONG! The Pubs run the entire Gov't and they are a total failure! ALL OF THEM!

It seems the American people just don't get the message unless it's repeated several dozen times, and damn it, it's about time we DID steal a page from the Pub handbook and start repeating the disasters this inept crowd has caused!

[mzmolly]

16. I agree we need a coordinated effort.

Dean is working on that, and I do hope we'll become organized soon.

[napi21]

19. I know he is, and I also hope his straight forward speaking

rubs off on the rst of our idiots! It's time they all forget about "being nice"! Quit apologizing for making a true statement! Some on DU call it getting a spine. I call it growing a set of brass ones, for both the men and the women!

[damntexdem]

22. Oh, they're too busy planning how to pull U.S. troops out of Iraq.

LOL!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

28. If the Democratic Party leadership tries to 'anoint' Clinton or Biden

ahead of Clark, Edwards, or someone actually speaking out in the right way, the party is well and truly dead.