Will anyone be FIRED for this....

[Lochloosa]

I'm just asking....

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. ROFLOL

That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

:sarcasm:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

12. Dammit! You beat me to it!

I saw the post and my thought was, "This is a joke, right?"

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. if Bremer and Tenet earned medals,

don't you think that OHS and FEMA directors did at least as well here?

Oh, wait. you asked about being FIRED.

of course not. No one is held accountable here.

[seemslikeadream]

14. Tenet maybe returning that medal real soon

Potential Bush-CIA crisis
TODAY'S COLUMNIST
By John B. Roberts II
September 1, 2005


George Tenet is not going to let himself become the fall guy for the September 11 intelligence failures, according to a former intelligence officer and a source friendly to Mr. Tenet.
A scathing report by Inspector General John Helgerson criticized the former CIA director and a score of other agency personnel for their failure to develop a strategy against al Qaeda. The report, delivered to Congress this week, recommends punitive sanctions for Mr. Tenet, former Deputy Director of Operations James L. Pavitt and former counter-terrorist center head J. Cofer Black. Mr. Tenet's response to the report is a 20-page, tightly knitted rebuttal of responsibility prepared with the aid of a lawyer, according to the friendly source.
Mr. Tenet's decision to defend himself against the charges in the report poses a potential crisis for the White House. According to a former clandestine services officer, the former CIA director turned down a publisher's $4.5 million book offer because he didn't want to embarrass the White House by rehashing the failure to prevent September 11 and the flawed intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Mr. Tenet, according to a knowledgeable source, had a "wink and a nod" understanding with the White House that he wouldn't be scapegoated for intelligence failings. The deal, one source says, was sealed with the award of the Presidential Freedom Medal.
Now that deal may be off. Mr. Tenet's rebuttal to the report is detailed and explicit. In defending his integrity as CIA director, Mr. Tenet treads perilously close to affirming the account of Richard Clarke, the former NSC terrorism official whose public disclosure of the Bush administration's delay in adopting a strategy against al Qaeda stirred controversy last summer.
The IG report is the result of a 17-month investigation by a team of 11 CIA officials. The Senate and House intelligence oversight committees requested the report, which follows in a CIA tradition of analyses of past mistakes in order to prevent recurrences. After double-agent Aldrich Ames was unmasked, the CIA inspector general produced a detailed account of the agency's failure to protect its Soviet spies. That report, which was made public, prompted sweeping changes in CIA counterintelligence practices.
In contrast, the IG report and Mr. Tenet's 20-page rebuttal are classified. This is a departure from past CIA practice. There is much about the IG report that is unusual. It was completed, according to multiple intelligence sources, by July 2004. Acting CIA Director John McLaughlin passed this hot potato to his successor, Porter Goss. As chairman of the House intelligence committee, Mr. Goss had lead the joint congressional inquiry into September 11 and called for the inspector general's report.
In an abundance of fairness, Mr. Goss gave agency personnel whose performance was criticized by the IG time to review files and respond in their own defense. This one-year delay in its issuance, coupled with the decision to classify the report, give ammunition to partisan critics.
This isn't about avoiding sanctions. Insiders agree that career-ending letters of reprimand are about the most severe punishment CIA officials will face. Messrs. Tenet, Pavitt and Black have all left the agency. What is at stake for them is personal honor and their legacy in failing to prevent September 11.
In criticizing Mr. Tenet for lack of a strategy to fight al Qaeda, the IG report goes to the heart of the September 11 failure. Mr. Tenet's defense inevitably leads to the sensitive issue of the CIA briefings of the president and other senior officials in the summer of 2001.




http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20050831-091719-1217r.htm

[Tyranny_R_US]

3. Yes, if Bush feels the heat from his party and the democrats...

...wait no one has the guts to take this buffoon on.

[cmf]

4. Hahahaha

Brown and Chertoff are going to get big promotions over this. That's the Bush administration MO.

[Nitrogenica]

5. When has there ever been accountability for mistakes?

* will probably hand out some more Presidential Medals of Freedom to those who failed.

[blonndee]

6. Not if we don't do anything.

We gotta get some protests going, in big numbers, and melt down the phone lines with calls to the media, senators, governors, representatives, advocacy organizations, and so on.

It's not going to happen by itself, but if we start a revolution and don't give up, it just might.

[Webster Green]

13. I'll be there...

:grr:

[blonndee]

18. I made some calls today, couldn't get through to ACLU or senators

but I did call NAACP and Rainbow/PUSH to see if there's any activism afoot. Right now there are focused on getting people out, understandably.

Can we get something going in Activist Corps? Moveon, maybe? SERIOUSLY.

[BlueEyedSon]

7. Get the presidential medals of freedom shined up and ready for handing out

[HysteryDiagnosis]

8. They'll be put in charge of flood control... if history is any teacher.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

9. It's actually a serious question.

It should be: The whole shrub administration.

But if shrub even CARED about appearances beyond photo-ops, he should fire head of FEMA at a minimum to save his OWN face a bit.

He can't on the one hand say the federal response was "unacceptable" and say the guy whose job was to be IN CHARGE of that response did a great job.

But, since Brown's job was a political plum reward appointment, no way he'll do it, just like he wouldn't sack Rumsfeld even for appearances.

[theHandpuppet]

10. Are you kidding?

Dubya is probably polishing up those Medals of Freedom even as we type.

[Mz Pip]

11. Promotions all around!

Lots of pats on the backs and self congratulations. IN their minds they are doing a terrific job.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[indepat]

15. Maybe at least the one who didn't give authority for other states' NG

to go in until about Thursday should be let go.

[doublethink]

16. Go here, the coverup has allready begun ...

this post ... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2057428&mesg_id=2057428

[halley]

17. BUSH should be

And his entire administartion.

[SoCalDem]

19. Chertoff & "Brownie" will be nominated for the Nobel prize

:puke:

[Eric J in MN]

21. And receive the Medal of Honor like George Tenet and Paul Bre.mer

nt

[NEOBuckeye]

20. Only if we do the "firing" n/t

[Mr_King]

22. I think the head of FEMA...

will resign to "spend more time with his family" before the end of the year.

[carpetbagger]

23. Yeah, a bunch of working class NO folk who don't have jobs. n/t

[Catrina]

24. Is that a serious question?

Let's see,

Bremer (because of war confusion, that's why we lost $90 billion of Iraq's treasury, we didn't loot it, so stop saying that!)

Rumsfeld (this war will take weeks and will cost $40 billion at the most, looting means they have the freedom to be bad, isn't it wonderful? etc. etc.)

Gen. (Abu Ghraib) Sanchez,

Tenet (I'll take the fall for you guys)

Wolfowitz (how many US troops died, and we made up the WMD excuse)

Bolton ~ no need to elaborate.

Gonzales (Abu Ghraib).

There are more. Bush said that anyone who screwed up would be 'taken care of'. They were, he promoted them all.

But if anyone is fired because of this, it will mean that they are really getting nervous, and have lost their grip on power and that their PR people are running out of ways to save them.

Then they will go on for a while longer as if nothing happened, the fired will be given lucrative positions in the Carlyle Group as their reward for a job well done (or will be hired by Fox) and until their next major screw-up, we'll have to tolerate people like Chris Matthews' on air, awed admiration for how they have managed to squirm out of one more crime. Last night Chris was overcome by Bush's energy as he hopped out of that plane and was certain he had made a great political move. Aaron Brown charactized his photo op as 'doing what presidents do'. The umpteenth rehab of the moron has begun.

[TankLV]

25. I'm hearing MEDALS FOR EVERYONE! Yeah!

Unfortunately, I am serious.

[Gabi Hayes]

26. sure....Anderson Cooper, Shepard Smith, Jack Cafferty......

people like that

[Catrina]

27. *rotfl* ~ and don't forget Ted Koppel!

Truth-tellers fired, screw-ups promoted, sadly that has been the hallmark of this administration.

We have to start demanding resignations and firings and hearings, starting at the top. It won't happen otherwise. The crowd in DC just want to go back to their clubs and business as usual. They need to hear loudly and clearly from the American people.

But your post made me laugh ~ and I needed that :-)

[wileycoyote]

28. Fired?

On September 11, 2001 we passed thru the looking glass. More than likely there will be promotions. Nothing is as it was.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

29. We are all on the Board of Directors of this very large company.

It is up to us to call for an immediate board meeting and demand the dismissal of the CEO.

[Lochloosa]

30. Best answer I have heard so far....thanks