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Chicago1 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:46 PM
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CHERTOFF: if we had an atomic bomb on top of this.
I FELL OFF MY CHAIR WHEN I SAW THIS.

My Masters Degree is Psychology based and if this isn't A CLUE AS TO WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED, than I don't know what is.

This came from Americablog and it was REVEALING.

http://www.americablog.org
Michael Chertoff: We're On Trial
by Michael in New York - 9/03/2005 03:00:00 PM


Chertoff just ended another ridiculous press conference. Thankfully, he's facing some tough questions. Here's where Chertoff unconsciously admits they are on trial in front of the American people and being found guilty of incompetence and indifference. Chertoff insists New Orleans suffered two natural disasters -- the hurricane and the levee breaking -- and that NO ONE could have ever anticipated both occurring at once, which is absurd. A reporter asked him why he couldn't have anticipated both and Chertoff just responded:
That's the kind of question which in court the judge usually sustains the objection to. It's called argumentative. But nevertheless...you know... if we had an atomic bomb on top of this...and we could pile on catastrophes...whenever you do a planning process, you have to deal with what is reasonably foreseeable. It is true that you can sometimes have a combination of things that are reasonably foreseeable but that combination is unforeseeable.
Huh? He is out of his mind. An atomic bomb? Chertoff is comparing preparing for a category 4 hurricane and a levee break caused by that hurricane to preparing for the absurd situation of a hurricane AND an atomic bomb being set off. What an insanely ridiculous comparison.

We've seen their own mock games looking at what would happen and EVERYTHING that occurred has been foreseen. Chertoff is lying to the American people when he says a hurricane overwhelming a levee and causing it to break hasn't been foreseen.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:48 PM
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1. He said it like two ro three times I think too, I was cleaning up from
last night. I do remember hearing atomic bomb several times out of the blue though.....scary shit my friend.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:48 PM
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2. he is trying to MINIMIZE the current situation by suggesting
something worse. oops quit thinking about the hurricane wreckage and start playing what-if with something worse.

excellent strategy on the part of bushco, and will the media swallow this and will the public suck it up? bushco hopes so.

Msongs
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dsewell Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:49 PM
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3. At the risk of self-promotion
... see the Chertoff lightbulb joke I just posted.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:52 PM
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6. I think a more accurate timeline is
Q: How long does it take Michael Chertoff to change a lightbulb?

A: Five days.

On the first day, he notices that the lightbulb is out.

On the sixth day, he brings a new lightbulb.

On the sixth day, he screws the lightbulb in, but the room remains dark.

On the sixth day, someone points out to him that he has forgotten to flip the light switch.

On the sixth day, he flips the light switch and the light comes back on.

And on the sixth day, he holds a news conference to say that no one could have predicted a scenario where lightbulb filament failure would be accompanied by a light switch in the off position!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:06 PM
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12. funny you should mention that:
How many members of the Bush Administration does it take to change a light bulb?

The Answer is TEN:

one to deny that the light bulb needs to be changed.

one to attack the patriotism of anyone who says the light bulb needs to be changed.

one to blame Clinton for burning out the light bulb.

one to tell the nations of the world that they are either for changing the light bulb or for darkness.

one to give a billion dollar no-bid contract to Haliburton for the new light bulb.

one to arrange a photograph of Bush, dressed as a janitor, standing on a step ladder under the banner "Lightbulb Change Accomplished."

one administration insider to resign and write a book documenting in detail how Bush was literally in the dark.

one to viciously smear #7.

one surrogate to campaign on TV and at rallies on how George Bush has had a strong light-bulb-changing policy all along.
and finally

one to confuse Americans about the difference between screwing a light bulb and doing the same to the country.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:21 PM
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15. Karl? Didn't think you'd be on this board!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:51 PM
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4. What breaks NO levees?
Cat 4 and 5 hurricanes, mebbe? Without the hurricane, there is no breech. You can't have one without the other.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:51 PM
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5. Shut the
fuck up.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:52 PM
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7. I saw it, it was even worse watching it.
immediately afterward the CNN anchor basically called him a liar.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:54 PM
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8. Oh, come on, it was all over the news that they were afraid
this was happen. Everyone saw it.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:02 PM
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9. Whoah ! Is he implying that the reason they withheld relief from NOLA
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 08:03 PM by kenny blankenship
was because they were worried that there MIGHT be a possibility of a terrorist attack with an atomic bomb while FEMA was already 100% committed to New Orleans ????

Is this the shape of new excuse? We had to hold back? (What if bin Laden atom-bombed us in Manhattan while we're all down in the Gulf)
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:03 PM
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10. Its just like Rove admitting to voter fraud:
Going forward, Healy said, Rove will forgo the exemption and tax cap on his Washington house -- valued at more than $1.1 million -- rather than give up his status as a Texas voter. But that raises a new set of questions.

Rove sold his longtime home in Austin in 2003. He was getting a homestead exemption there, too. So for three years, from 2001 until the sale, Rove was claiming homesteads in Texas and Washington, which is, technically, illegal, according to tax collectors in both cities. "Strictly speaking, you can only have one homestead," said Art Cory, chief tax appraiser in Travis County, Tex.

Cory said he would, nonetheless, probably not bother to investigate.

Anyway, Rove is now registered to vote in Kerr County, about 80 miles west of Austin in the Texas Hill Country. He and his wife, Darby, have owned property there, on the Guadalupe River, since at least 1997, according to county property records.

But as far as the locals know, the couple have never actually lived in either of two tiny rental cottages Rove claims as his residence on Texas voter registration rolls. The largest is 814 square feet and valued by the county at about $25,000.

"I've been here 10 years and I've never seen him. There are only, like, three grocery stores in town. You'd think you'd at least see him at the HEB" grocery, said Greg Shrader, editor and publisher of the Kerrville Daily Times.

Charles Ratliff, secretary of the Kerr County Democratic Party, said he's never even heard rumors of Rove's presence. "I have no memory of anybody saying to me, 'Hey, Karl Rove is in town, and he's speaking at the courthouse.' Or, 'Karl Rove is in town and I saw him at the grocery store.'

"Now, you do hear people say that all the time about Kinky Friedman," Ratliff said, referring to the novelist and lead singer for the Texas Jewboys. "If somebody famous like Rove lived near Kerrville, I think I would hear about it all the time."

Down in Texas, when you register to vote in a place where you don't actually live, the county prosecutor can come after you for voter fraud, said Elizabeth Reyes, an attorney with the elections division of the Texas Secretary of State. Rove's rental cottage "doesn't sound like a residence to me, because it's not a fixed place of habitation," she said. "If it's just property that they own, ownership doesn't make that a residence."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/02/AR2005090202397.html

They all fly in the same family, the architects of fraud. :eyes:

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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:04 PM
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11. If they can't handle the forseeable like a predicted hurricane and its
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 08:05 PM by Garbo 2004
predicted damage, these bozos cannot handle anything. And that is obvious to anyone who has any real concern about "homeland security." They're empty suits whose lies may be wearing thin even with the media, finally.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:13 PM
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13. Let's see how he answers these questions under oath!
Since he's so keen on using the examination of a witness for his example.


The man is a shyster lawyer, not someone who is trained to manage homeland security in ANY way, shape, or form...

Michael Chertoff
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Michael Chertoff (born November 28, 1953), is the current United States Secretary of Homeland Security.

He previously served as a United States Court of Appeals judge and former federal prosecutor, and assistant U.S. Attorney General. He was nominated as Homeland Security Secretary by President George W. Bush on January 11, 2005 to succeed Tom Ridge as Secretary of the United States Department of Homeland Security. He was confirmed in this position by the U.S. Senate on February 15, 2005, in a unanimous 98-0 vote, and sworn into office the same day (although a ceremonial swearing-in presided over by Bush took place on March 3).

Early history

Born in Elizabeth, New Jersey, the son of a rabbi, Chertoff went to The Pingry School in high school. He later attended Harvard University, graduating in 1975. He then graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School in 1978, going on to clerk for appellate judge Murray Gurfein for a year before clerking for United States Supreme Court justice William Brennan from 1979 to 1980. He worked in private practice with Latham & Watkins from 1980 to 1983 before being hired as a prosecutor by Rudolph Giuliani, then the U.S. attorney for Manhattan, working on mafia and political corruption-related cases. He is a dual citizen of the United States and Israel. more...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff

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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:22 PM
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16. So is brown...
The racists and crooks get promoted and always have. Until our leadership holds these flakes accountable and we finally have real government it will always get a pass.
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NYdemocrat089 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:13 PM
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14. Wasn't there media coverage of the hurricane
during which it was stated hundreds of times that the levees could break for at least 48 hours prior to landfall? Haven't people been talking about this scenario for years? I'm 15, and the second I heard a category 5 hurricane was about to hit New Orleans I immediately though about the levees failing.

Chertoff is a liar, and a bad one at that.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:32 PM
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17. Wrote my Congressman..What does Chertoff know about atomic bomb??
From Mushroom cloud to atomic bomb..
is that all the busheviks can think of?????

"Dear Sir ..I find it very disturbing that Mr. Chertoff is mentioning the atomic bomb regarding the tragedy of Hurricaine Katrina.. What does he know about an atomic bomb??? The entire bush administration has been profiting wildly while thousands die and 9/11 remains unsolved . Many think bush/cheny did 9/11 to cover the stolen election..Bush lied to go to war..That is an act of treason..but Congress who has the sole authority of declaring war is allowing bush to exlpoit another tragedy and use fear mongering tactics like 'the mushroom cloud ' speech of Ms. Rice and now the 'atomic bomb ' speech by Chertoff..

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/09/michael-chertoff-were-on-trial.html


I would appreciate a personal response as many on the political forums are very upset by the Bush response to Katrina and the words of Chertoff."
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:54 PM
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18. If FEMA had had an atomic bomb ...
they probably would have used it on NO.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:46 PM
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19. Okay I'm donning the hat and suit but...
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 09:46 PM by TheGoldenRule
I found this more than a little chilling.

What the HELL is up their sleeves next???!!! :scared:
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