I give up

[steve2470]

I'm leaving politics to the pros. Obviously, they know what they're doing. I'll just be quiet and eventually leave the Democratic Party and join the Greens or the Democratic Socialists or something. I don't think the Greens or the other parties would take this ass kicking lying down.

I am very tempted to quit if Dean or Pelosi or Boxer or Conyers, et al do not speak truth to power. I don't want to quit. But, this was fucking insane what has been happening in New Orleans. More insane than Watergate, IMHO.

OK, I feel better now.

[Gloria]

1. I just said the same thing in a couple of threads. I'm ready to

give up. The few fighters in the Party are not the leaders. The fighters are ignored.

I can't stand it any more. When do the Democrats present a unified front against this massacre that is happening to this country???

[steve2470]

3. They need to do it damn soon, or it will be too late nt

[knowbody0]

2. i am so with you!

tuesday will be a telling day for me. we need a party for the people not the fucking politicians. what i see is a complete breakdown of this capitalist society.

[still_one]

4. When they come back from break

The democrats had better come out swinging, or they will NO LONGER BE MY PARTY

I have been a Democrat for over 30 Years, and I have just about had it with their "take the high road" position

Where were the democrats when bush was moving on his agenda?

hardly a wimper

[steve2470]

11. I'm resigning after 31 years with the party if they don't get a life nt

[still_one]

18. I hope they do the right thing this time

the stakes are very high

I guess the other alternative is for us to take back our party with people like Paul Hacket, Russ Feingold, etc.

[justabob]

48. back from break?

They are no better than Bush if they couldn't be bothered to cut short their break. The democrats have already failed to come out swinging.... CBC excepted.

[Walt Starr]

5. I'm with you

I am so close to just fucking dumping this wimpm ass party.

[steve2470]

7. I'm glad you understand. Yes, I do understand about not fighting dirty

all the time. But god damnit, thousands of helpless poor and black people just got fucking drowned. WTF ??????????

[bliss_eternal]

6. Hey, I know how you feel...

I've thought about leaving Dems to be a Green.

I've thought of denouncing my citizenship as an American, and leaving the country. Still thinking about it actually...

I've been through the entire range.

I think all we can do is let our congress people know exactly how we feel, and tell them what we expect them to do on our behalf--that we won't settle for anything less.

Then wait to see where things fall--

I hope that doesn't sound defeatist, as this is not my intent. I just want to give them a chance to do the right thing...

[steve2470]

8. I so want them to do the right thing. I don't want to resign from the Dems

But I will, if they do not. I've been a Dem for 31 years. I'm no fair weather Dem at all.

[bliss_eternal]

16. I know--I didn't get the sense that you were...

You wouldn't be human if you weren't upset by this.

What happened could happen to any of us. We'd all like to think it wouldn't, but the reality is it could. That's scary. We all want to know that in such a situation our govt. will be there for us--no matter what.

Don't give up just yet.

If they screw up, I'll sign up with you! ;)

[steve2470]

21. Thank you. I hope to God that the professional Dems in the party

really do read DU. Hey..you...PROFESSIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY WORKER..I have been a LOYAL Democrat for 31 years. Never voted Republican. Do you understand how FED UP I am ? If you don't get it, I'm leaving soon. No more money for your party. NONE.

[halobeam]

33. I'm on Long Island. If that hit here, Long Island would be gone.

On our own. Strong three words. Never thought it would be like this in America without the "leadership" pulling out all stops and slamming their fists unaccepting of anything less.

Unimaginable, yet we have no need to imagine it any further, it is real.

[still_one]

10. I have given them 6 years of a chance to destroy our party

and our country

they have one last chance with me when they get back from break. Either they grow a spine, or I will find a party that represents me and has a spine

[Bouncy Ball]

14. The US government won't LET you renounce your

citizenship. Just ask the guy who's been trying to do it for years. It's been so long since he's lived in the US. He's stood outside the US embassy in different countries and BURNED his US passport and he was fined by the US government for burning it (LOL, good luck getting him to collect it!) and ISSUED A NEW ONE.

You could gain citizenship in another country but you can't just drop this one. Not allowed.

[Cleita]

30. A lot of countries are like that. I have dual citizenship because

of it and I had a friend who was a citizen of three countries although we both mainly considered ourselves Americans.

[halobeam]

24. Contacting the elected is just what needs to be done.

You are dead right... give them the chance, fully aware of what their constituents want, and do what's right.... or not.

That will be their rise or fall, IMO. This is as deadly serious as anything will ever be, if they don't do it now... I'm sorry to say too, that they NEVER will.

I'm writing them, and I'm lighting a candle.

We need REAL leadership, and that's it. Bottom line.

[gmoney]

9. Well, this may support the "rock bottom" notion...

Bill Maher, and a few other liberal folks, aired the idea that Bush winning a second term might be GOOD for the Democrats and liberals, because it would take America hitting rock bottom to wake everyone up to the fact that the Pukes are pillaging the country. If Kerry won, he would spend his entire four years fixing all the shit Bush fucked up, and getting blamed each time a Bush house of cards collapsed.

Bush called the last election his "accountability moment" and in a way, that may be just what it is... "George, you made this mess, now clean it up... you're accountable."

I'm not happy about it, but maybe it IS the only way for Americans to get the idea that we're all in the same boat, except for the upper crust who have gamed the system so that everyone else is essentially their wage slaves, so instead of the richest country on earth having the wealthiest, healthiest citizenry, instead we have the largest income disparity among developed nations.

[walldude]

12. I wrote a post yesterday about

forgiving the press for kissing Bush's ass all these years as long as they go after him for the NO fiasco. Maybe we should give the Dems one last chance. We'll forgive and forget if they go after Bush for this cluster fuck.

[steve2470]

13. I will forgive them, I agree. nt

[nonconformist]

15. I'm right there with you. nt

[halobeam]

17. How many thousands died in Watergate? exactly.....

this makes New Orleans seriously more insane than Watergate. The nightmare, the out of control govt. is a perfect example of Bush from birth to present date. A catastrophic FAILURE.

You, however (don't think I haven't noticed) are of tremendous value and support to DU community. I know I am not alone thinking this, I see at least two posts/day thanking you for all your incredible input here.

Now it's my turn. Thank you.

and don't go... take a break if you need it, then please come back.

goodnight.


:pals:

[steve2470]

20. I will never quit DU.

Just the official Dem. party. No more money for them or anything. DU is wonderful, even though I do get aggravated at times.

[halobeam]

28. I'm so glad to hear that, this community is full of good people,

and we need you/them to stay.

[DistressedAmerican]

19. I Think This Is Going To Result In Some Major Changes For Both Parties.

We know that they have ALL let us down as citiznes. They will be made to pay with their jobs soon!

[I_Make_Mistakes]

27. If Dean quit the party and formed another how many would

follow. I would!

I there are several co's. you can have dual citizenship.

When I was in Europe I met a guy who had dual Australian-US and I don't think he was born there.

Hey, wouldn't want to lose the pennies I'll be collecting from SS after paying all these years.

[steve2470]

29. I would also follow Dean nt

[MadeinOhio]

32. I definitely would. It would be called the progressives party....

And I'd get every single person I know to join it and start unifying the entire damn west coast! :mad:

I just don't know what it means to have anything to do with democrat leaders anymore........I don't know where the hell they are. I hope they pipe up by Monday, at least Harry Reid denounced the thugs!
:mad:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

49. I would, in a heartbeat. Especially if we could get some of the good

folks like Clark, some of the CBC people etc.

[Cleita]

22. I been thinking the same.

However, I have this slim hope that the DLC will become the new Republican Party making the GOP and it's PNAC fossils obsolete. Then the Democratic Party can go back to being the party of the socialists, labor and all the bleeding heart liberals.

[steve2470]

25. I sure hope so. That would be so cool if the DLC left nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

31. That would make Hillary a repuke. That could be interesting.

:)

[Cleita]

36. She is a Repuke and became a Democrat when she married

bill.

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. Yeah. This is the last damn straw.

I have stood by these assholes through their vote on the Late Term abortion bill, their vote on the Medicare reform bill, their vote on the IWR, their vote on the Patriot Act, their vote on the bankruptcy bill, their votes on the 3 FRIGGIN' RW, wacko nut job judges the idiot wanted on the DC court, their IGNORING the evoting machine issue, letting the idiot steal 2 elections and doing NOTHING about it, ignoring the DSM issue and now THIS! I'm sick to death of their crap. I'm sick to death of their wimpiness. I'm sick to death of them being SPINELESS. I'm tired of them. Their USELESS.

[MadeinOhio]

26. I'm ready to fully go to the real opposition if they aren't Howard Dean!!!

They all need to become Howard Dean. :mad:

[applegrove]

34. Just as not joining Cindy helped Cindy's message - so too will

'not politicizing' Katrina let the truth come out. Otherwise - as soon as they say boo the Rove Machine starts up again and he will blame it on them and stop any investigation.

I think it is smart.

After all - Americans didn't elect enough Dems to give them any power. They have to try different tactics.

Courage!

[Beam Me Up]

35. It is class warfare: They WANT you to feel defeated and demoralized.

Short of letting you die in a disaster, either natural or of their making, what course do they have?

[MissMarple]

37. We are the grassroots, and we are speaking.

CAN YOU HEAR US??? Get some hearing aids, we don't seem to be making an impression on y'all.

[davidinalameda]

38. I left the party but came back

I believe that we're to blame as much as the politicians. I know that I didn't contact my reps about issues and then got pissed when I disagreed with a vote.

We got to let them know that we're paying attention. If we don't, they'll think we don't care and they'll vote in favor of big donors, corporations and the like.

We got to remind them that they represent us.

[havocmom]

39. all the registered Republicans in my very red county want to hear DEMs

come out swinging at BUSHCO! They are furious at the junta but desolate at the silence from DEM leaders (and I use the term loosely). They WANT someone to come out and say what needs to be said. We can take so many counties/districts/states if the DEMs in office would just open their mouths and SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER!

Gads, there has to be some congressional aids who monitor DU: For the nation's sake, make your bosses understand there is a Leadership Vacuum and we can use it to save ourselves if our DEM officeholders and potential candidates just offer some sound alternatives to the PR farce parading as government!

Jesus wept, DEMS, Get up and rally the people! Hell, even MSM is vulnerable to being somewhat fair right now. Many of the talking heads have looked death in the eye and know who did the killing! DO SOMETHING NOW!

ok, back to your regularly scheduled posts...

[Roxy66]

40. Not me....these are the values I believe in...we just need people

to represent us for real

[Mr_Spock]

41. Well, you can go into politics, or learn to be patient

or become a cheerleader Freeper, or go to the remote party's you mentioned. I think you know where the people with their priorities straight reside. The only other way to have an effect is to run for office yourself - really!

[Mr_Spock]

42. I logged back in to say that I can't believe I was tricked again into an

"I'm leaving" thread by someone who is frustrated and looking for attention. Get over yourself, really.., Who the heck do you think you are anyway? Slap me if I ever feel so impotent or sorry for myself that I post something so sorry ass...

[bpilgrim]

44. smack

get over yourself

peace

[Mr_Spock]

47. lol

We givin' some tough love here :D

[NVMojo]

43. I'm thinking of doing the same thing. The Rural Nevada Democratic

Party is a joke in my county. It's run by controlling, trough-sucking theives who could care less if we ever have Dems winning elections as long as they can suck at the trough with Senator Harry Reid's blessings. I'm real tired of their egos. They won't get out of the way to let others step up and help the party grow. They surround themselves with people who don't question them. They won't change the by-laws of the local party to allow for elections with ballots so they can maintain their control. In other words, they are not democratic. There, glad I got that off my chest but I'm still looking at the Green Party or Independent.

[Qibing Zero]

45. I wish I could give you some enlightening words

but even before this I was planning on taking a 'vacation' from the country for a while. I just completely disagree with everything the country has done since I've come of age, and the least I can do is go and see if I can find a more suitable home. I haven't lived here but for the 21 years of my life, so unlike a lot of you guys I don't have the perspective of better times.

Of course, if tomorrow I was told we're going to have a revolution, I would be right there at the front of it.

[Gloria]

46. Me, again....We have good people, esp. Clark this week, ahead of

the curve. But, apparently, he's not good enough for the DC power boys.

If they can't see someone who's got the credentials and can run as a non-pol, they are jerks.

This party is going to go down the tubes...the DLCers have the bucks and I am totally disgusted with them. They are not working for US...they are all about their egos, while all they do is appease. Why would I want to vote for someone who works harder to look and act like a Republican than they do for the interests of the average person....

I would do anything for some combo of a Gore-Clark ticket....we need PASSION and CONVICTION

[Q]

50. The Democratic 'party' is not the problem...it's the leadership...

...and the fact that they're sleeping with the enemies of Democracy.

Bush thinks he shouldn't be held accountable...and the Democratic party leadership obviously agrees.

The Democratic party rank and file are doing just fine. THEY are still the Party of the People. The leadership has turned away from them and no longer represent their interests.

We need to replace our leadership as much as this country needs to purge the criminals that have taken over our government.

[justabob]

51. But to replace the leaders, doesn't one need to step up?

I agree that its the leaders that are the problem, but where are we to find new ones if there isn't anyone out there leading in any meaningful way?

[Catchawave]

52. I'm mad at the Dems, they were too quiet while people

were suffering this week. Where was the outrage? All I got were a few emails directing my money to the Red Cross :shrug:

Yes, I hold the Dems accountable for this mess too.