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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:38 AM
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Rush Limbaugh - Mandatory Minimum Sentance: 25 years..
Florida Law

Florida Statutes

893.135 Trafficking; mandatory sentences;
(c)1. Any person who knowingly sells, purchases, manufactures, delivers, or brings into this state, or who is knowingly in actual or constructive possession of, 4 grams or more of oxycodone, or 4 grams or more of any mixture containing any such substance, but less than 30 kilograms of such substance or mixture, commits a felony of the first degree, which felony shall be known as "trafficking in illegal drugs," punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. If the quantity involved:
a. Is 4 grams or more, but less than 14 grams, such person shall be sentenced to a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment of 3 years, and the defendant shall be ordered to pay a fine of $50,000.
b. Is 14 grams or more, but less than 28 grams, such person shall be sentenced to a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment of 15 years, and the defendant shall be ordered to pay a fine of $100,000.
c. Is 28 grams or more, but less than 30 kilograms, such person shall be sentenced to a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment of 25 calendar years and pay a fine of $500,000.


http://atrios.blogspot.com/

And his attorney is letting this guy speak for 3 HOURS today before the state presents its case??? Talk about self will run riot.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:01 AM
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1. As far as I know............
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 09:01 AM by DumpGump
Lardbutt wasn't actually caught in posession of the drugs. He was caught in a sting buying them, no one ever arrested him with the drugs. I'm sure there are many technical reasons why he'll get off with a slap on the wrist. Rich white men don't go to jail for posession of drugs. They'll spin this until he looks like a victim and his legions of zombies will believe every word. It's just those damn, "Libruls, and DEMONcRATS trying to smear the name of a great patriotic American! :eyes:
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:09 AM
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2. I dunno
I agree, most rich white men dont go to jail for less than murder. BUT, you have to remember the hysteria surrounding drugs in this country.

I personally believe his racist remarks about Donovan McNabb are MUCH more serious offenses than his using drugs, although, because of his blatant hypocrisy about drugs and his helping to fuel the hysteria with non-factual statements make it sweet irony that he gets busted.

I've read a lot of people in here saying we should have sympathy for drug addicts. Does this include cigarette smokers and boozers?

Let's face it, cigs have a higher addiction rate than heroin (84%/33%) amongst their users, yet nicotine junkies are treated like vile second class citizens (I know, I used to smoke cigs). What's with the double standard?

Is it the illegal vs legal thing? Legal drugs like alcohol and nicotine are the killers, most illegal drugs are not nearly as devastating as alcohol and nicotine. (with the exception of meth and pcp)

Too bad Rush wasnt caught with cocaine, maybe then our misguided drug war would be critically examined.

Don't take this the wrong way, Rush is an evil bastard and should be taken down for other reasons.



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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:30 AM
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14. Drugs, legal or not, should not be totally uncontrolled
I'm gonna rant, without apology, except maybe at the end. And then I'm going to try not to write again on this subject.

Cigarette smokers are not "treated like vile second class citizens." I, too, am a former smoker, so is my husband, and he had a very difficult and long time quitting. And I have many friends who continue to smoke. Some say they want to quit, some try, and some insist they have no intention of quitting.

Cigarette smokers are asked to smoke in designated places so non-smokers are not unwillingly forced to breathe second-hand smoke. Whether there is a significant health risk from breathing second-hand smoke I won't argue here, but I do sincerely believe non-smokers ought to have soem choice in what kind of air they breathe.

In most places I've worked, cigarette smokers are allowed relatively unlimited time off to go outside and smoke. Non-smokers who take extra such "breaks" are often disciplined. This happened to me when I requested (paid) time off for a medical appointment. I was told such time could not be paid for. When I pointed out that I did not take four or five ten-minute cigarette breaks each day and that one hour out of a month ought to be allowed, I was told that if I took the time off without scheduling it ahead of time as vacation, I would not be paid, AND if I did not schedule it ahead of time, I would be fired. A recent study where my husband works showed smokers took an AVERAGE of 35 minutes time off during an eight-hour shift; some were as high as 2 hours, or 25% of the time they were paid for.

Some companies do not, it is true, allow such breaks, and while that may be considered prejudice against smokers, I believe there is room for an argument that it is also a bias in favor of those who actually do the work they're hired to do.

Prescription drugs without control can be deadly. Thirty years ago, my mother became addicted unknowingly when her physician prescribed a medication to be "refilled as needed." The amount prescribed was originally sufficient for two weeks' treatment, after which she returned to the physician to see if the medication was working. the treatment seemed successful, so she was sent home with her Rx. Over the next several months, she continued to have the prescription refilled as she needed it. First it was every two weeks, then every ten days, then every week. The pharmacist at that point contacted the physician, who approved the increased usage. But when the consumption reached the point of two weeks' dosage per day, the pharmacist simply refused to refill any more and once again contacted the physician. By this time, however, my mother was completely addicted. Not only had she been rendered virtually non-functional to her family as a result of this (I was married and moved out but had two younger siblings and my father still at home to deal with this mess) but they all then had to go through the trauma of her withdrawal from a powerfully addictive drug. Self-medication is not victimless.

My husband's cousin suffered a heart attack at age 30 and at one point was given only hours to live, until an alert physician suspected the cause was not a disease but a drug interaction between prescription medications exacerbated by her long-time use of a common OTC pain-reliever. When asked afterward why she didn't report the use of this OTC medication to the physician prior to being given the Rxs, she said she didn't consider it medicine. Had she died, she would have left three small children behind.

Self-medication and free access to whatever makes you feel good is not, imho, such a great and wonderful idea. Who among us who is not a physician has any real clue what all these drugs do, what they don't do, what they act and react with? I wouldn't trust my coworker or neighbor to provide me with antibiotics, antidepressants, pain relievers, or anything else.

Should restrictions be eased on some drugs? Probably. Should the sentencing laws be revised? Absolutely. Can some drugs be made more readily available without serious harm to the general population? Without a doubt. But make everything freely available without control? I don't think so.

But that's just me.

The idea that Rush Limbaugh should be allowed to get away with this because the drug laws are too harsh and people should be allowed to self-medicate because it's a victimless "crime" is IMHO hooey. The impaired driver or coworker who causes accidents is not engaged in victimless activity. Should he have been allowed to get all the OxyContin he wanted just because he wanted it? Well, maybe, if it would have resulted in his silencing, but that's not the point.

I've seen people get viciously mean on alcohol and go completely out of control. I have two friends who can't function if they have to do without a cigarette every hour, including one who wakes up at least twice during every night to have a cigarette. I've lost several friends over the years to drunk drivers, and three friends to lung cancer. Oh, yes, and one to a caffeine addiction so intense that he said he'd rather die before he was thirty than give up coffee and cola. He routinely drank a twelve-pack of cola a day, even after he had been diagnosed with high blood pressure and warned that the excessive caffeine might be a contributing factor. At 28 he suffered a massive stroke and died, leaving a pregnant wife to whom he'd been married only six months. I'm not saying this means we should cut off everyone's supply of caffeine, but I am saying that even these "harmless" drugs can have devastating consequences. Put more powerful stuff out there on the street, and do you really think things would improve?

Prohibition of alcohol didn't solve the problem and it brought crime into the picture too. Same with drugs like heroin and crack and all that other stuff that's out there that I don't have a clue about. I just think it's ignorant and foolish to think that pulling all the restrictions is the way to solve this problem. And it is a problem.

Now, all of you can flame me if you want.
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Sephirstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:11 AM
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3. Can the right afford to go easy on Rush Limbaugh?
They'll make far more people ever angry that they ever did with Noella Bush.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:14 AM
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4. They have been investigating for 5 years...
When CNN said the "they're investigating traffickers, not users", everyone assumed that left El Rushbo off the hook. -- BUT under Florida law, if he bought at the level he's rumored to, he is a trafficker.

Say, isn't Palm Beach controlled by Democrats?
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:49 AM
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8. Yeppers
n/t
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TAH6988 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:55 AM
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10. 5 years? or 5 months?
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:40 AM
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5. This thread needs to stay on top.
kick
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:41 AM
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6. Suddenly, Ashcroft's idea of forcing prosecutors to go for the maximum
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 09:42 AM by Hardhead
Sentence sounds like a good idea. Oh, the irony if Ashcroft's Draconian ideals would land Anal-Cyst Boy in the stir!

But for now, the prosecutor has the option of not filing criminal charges against Florida's latest politically-connected druggie.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:02 AM
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12. Thats what Asscroft said...thats what the man said... n/t
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:43 AM
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7. but I bet he gets to keep the house!
Yeah, Florida, homes to criminals...
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:52 AM
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9. Yep the "Homestead Law" - HOWEVER the Govt. can sieze a house
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 09:53 AM by janekat
if drugs are found in it, etc. That would trump the Homestead Law. Any attorneys here?
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:01 AM
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11. d. No fine or jail time if you can afford a $300 @hr lawyer n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:06 AM
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13. Would that mean ChoicePoint would purge Rush the Felon from voter rolls?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha to infinity.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 12:16 PM
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16. Like that would matter - Rush never registered to vote
until he could vote for Bush1. He even admitted it.

That tells you a lot about his knowledge of civics. Is our children lurnin?
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:42 AM
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15. Is it OK to talk about the president's substance abuse yet?
Not even with his expressing buddiness with the Great (big, fat, stupid, lying, idiotic, druggie) American?

Guess not yet. Fn press.

Oh, by the way, UTUSN in another thread today points out irony recovering it's health with the cigar box stash biting the Pigboy's ass after all his Clinton cigar 'humour'.

:evilgrin:
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