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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:53 AM
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New Orleans Changes EVERYTHING.
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 04:55 AM by dxstone
(I posted this as a response to another thread on whether Dems should be bitching and pointing fingers right now, or rolling up their sleeves and helping, and saving the criticism and demand for answers for later. A friend suggested I post it as a separate thread.)

New Orleans Changes EVERYTHING.



IMHO, it is VERY important to show REAL take-charge leadership, while ALSO keeping the fires of outrage STOKED TO THE MAX... and the BEST way for Dems to do that is to get off their asses and make VERY visible efforts to alleviate the suffering of the trapped victims, while at the SAME TIME taking a break each time they airlift another helicopter load of survivors to safety (are you listening, Al?) to totally REAM Butch out for the shit job all his new and innovative organizations are doing; to call attention to the stuff they're experiencing first-hand on these missions of mercy, and to marvel openly at the fact that the united states is acting with such incredibly shameful incompetence that it doesn't even deserve to be capitalized anymore (haha, pretty subtle, eh?)... then say, "Hate to cut this short, but I gotta go pick up another load of desperate people the administration has left to drown like rats. Stick around; I'm sure I'll have more horror stories when I return." Then go out and do it again; rest and repeat as necessary.

Not all could get that deep in the trenches; but some COULD work DIRECTLY with groups of the newly-released survivors, even help to assemble pre-fab temporary housing and the like which they've found ways to procure... and then they'd STILL have some first-hand experience, and could relate the horror stories of those who were left in that Hell pit for 5 and more days...

In THIS way, the people doing the criticizing would wield a greater authority in their claims of Butchian incompetence and dereliction of duty; if they themselves are on the front lines, doing the work neglected by the neocon asshats, won't they present the STARKEST and most OBVIOUS contrast of Dem's passionate and determined capability, vs. Republican casual indifference, rather transparent racist tendencies and total cluelessness?

Let our good Dems stand in bloodied shirts from helping to lift and carry wounded people, and keep repeating "WHY FIVE DAYS? WHY DIDN'T THEY AIRDROP WATER AND FOOD AND BASIC MEDICINES IN RIGHT AWAY? WHY DIDN'T FEMA KNOW THERE WERE 20,000 PEOPLE TRAPPED IN THE SUPERDOME UNTIL 3 DAYS AFTER EVERYONE ELSE KNEW? IS THIS THEIR IDEA OF SMART AND EFFICIENT LEADERSHIP? WHY WOULDN'T THEY LET THE STARVING PEOPLE SIMPLY WALK OUT ON WEDNESDAY AND GO TO WHERE FOOD AND FRESH WATER WAS? HOW CAN ANYONE FEEL SAFE WITH THESE INCOMPETENTS IN CHARGE?"

Then, AFTER the MAJOR crisis is over in a week or so, they can begin to present the EVIDENCE...

full text at
http://presidentevilonline.com/neworleans.html

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:59 AM
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1. Why did no one figure out there were diabetics in NOLA?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:24 AM
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4. Or amputees, elderly, people with mental illness, newborns, people
in hospitals, the homeless, the working poor, the list goes on.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:19 AM
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2. Good point, What are the chances of it happening?
Other than Al Gore, nobody's done anything.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:19 AM
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3. Dude! Exactly. They Represent Us And We Are Screaming It.
When we are screaming it, they should to as they are our elected reps. Right? The represent us. That was my understanding anyway. Sometimes I am certain that people have forgotten they are supposed to represent us. Not just occupy a seat with a dem ass so a pug can't get in on the musical chairs. But when they sit down, the majority act like Pugs. The majority have voted consistently WITH THE PUGS for years now.

I ask you is that any better than electing a Pug? Actually I would argue it is worse. At least if a Pug ass sits down and votes against our wished, we will not need feel betrayed. They were quite honest about opposing US. Many Dems act ever 4 or 6 years like they really arte going to vote the was their constituents would like and them they turn around and plunge a knife into our backs.

Accountability is a two way street people. I never hear our side stop screaming about holding Bush and the Pugs accountable, We marvel that he and his buddies are allowed to get away with it. We bitch that they do not police their own.

Well, folks we have to police our own too. Otherwise we will be left up to our necks in sewage and surrounded by gators!

Throw them out and tell them why. You DID NOT represent us. You failed miserably. You are fired. A nice strong message to send other politicos that may want their job.

Unless we rid ourselves of these DINO's we will surely die as a nation.

Kick and Nod!
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GeorgeBushytail Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:14 AM
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5. Camp Katrina on The Mall - Focus the Anger on Bush
10's of thousands of Katrina survivors camped on Bush's doorstep.

They will bring anger and purpose. They will BE the story during 9/11, the SCOTUS hearings, and will be there on 9/24 for the big march.

Please help organize and publicize Camp Katrina:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/campkatrina/
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:29 AM
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9. Yup. In a democracy, when the people lead, the leaders follow. Great idea.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:33 AM
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11. Bushy, can you give Camp Katrina its own thread--or two?
One in GD, one in the Activists forum, to raise awareness of your event.
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GeorgeBushytail Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:39 AM
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13. I need HELP on Camp Katrina
I am a disabled keyboard activist and I am just trying to get the Camp Katrina idea rolling.

I have set up a forum here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/campkatrina/

Here is the original DU thread in which I polled people on the idea of Camp Katrina:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2059147

Please help brainstorm and publicize.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:51 AM
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15. Just gave Camp Katrina its own thread in General Discussion.
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 11:55 AM by chalky
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GeorgeBushytail Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:01 PM
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16. Thank you
I will post there.
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Field Of Dreams Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:50 PM
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20. Delete
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 07:51 PM by Field Of Dreams
wrong thread
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:21 AM
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6. Yep! Still waiting for the Dem leaders to get off their asses
I see Jesse Jackson down there trying to wake people up. Jesse never lets us down. I see the media finally showing signs of life and a few are starting to share our outrage at our government's purposeful genocide.

They are setting us up for another 9/11 as sure as I am typing this. When we are attacked next week or next month, we go under Marshall Law. There won't be any elections for us to worry about.

Where are the others we have elected and paid so handsomely with stature and monetary compensation? Why are they not speaking up? Have they been paid off or have their daughters been threatened?

I shudder with horror at what our nation has become.

I am starting to understand your graphic style more each day. It is born of anger and fear and revulsion.

Happy to give this a 5th nom.
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Six Feet Underground Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:30 AM
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10. president bad boy admin = congress lame duck session
he's going to be running a negative, incompetent administration so righties can push a little further towards th e middlee, distance themselves from him
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:19 PM
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18. Thanks, hon!
We have to stop them first; Bush needs to be impeached, and they'd better start those proceedings in two weeks; if not, I'm not sure how long some of us are gonna hang around here after that. This country is rapidly devolving into a rat's ass, only without the charm.
Damn, this thread has gotten very little traffic; who ya gotta kill to get people to click?
d
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:27 AM
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7. At THIS point, a physical presence in the Disaster Area....
...would be grandstanding and camera mugging, and the Dems NEED to point this out about the Repubs that are shamelessly posing for the cameras and actually interfering with the REAL help in New Orleans ans the Gulf Coast.

The VERY BEST THING that Democrats can do NOW is to PUBLICLY (and frequently) support the Mayor and Governor of Louisiana who ARE pointing their fingers (at the Republicans & Bush*) and ARE being attacked by the Republican Slime Machine.


The BEST thing the Democrats can do NOW is to get in front of EVERY TV Camera they can find and repeat OVER & OVER:

*The Republicans DEFUNDED Programs that would have fixed the 17th St Levee BEFORE Katrina.

*The Republicans gutted FEMA and appointed incompetent CRONYS to head an agency that American LIVES depended on.

*thousands died on the Gulf Coast because The Republicans sent our National Guard to Iraq

*that The Republicans sent the Corp of Engineers to Iraq where they spent BILLIONS of American Dollars, but couldn't fund Corp of Engineer programs to protect the American People!

*That the Homeland Security Department created by The Republicans to safeguard the American People is a COMPLETE FAILURE that only redirects BILLIONS of Taxpayer money into the pockets of RICH REPUBLICAN pockets!


The Republican Ownership Society




The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:04 PM
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17. I am not opposed to them going on site and speaking to the cameras.
No matter what we do, it is attacked. Going on site and speaking from there may be the only way to reach people.

The Dem party should also take some of our millions and buy up all the air time available on every network and cable station and point out the lies and harm beig done to this country at this very minute.
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 04:27 PM
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19. Well, if you actually hit the link and read my larger piece...
You'd know I'm aware that very few can get in there, but as I see it there are many other things they can do while working DIRECTLY with some of the survivors... this is key; they have GOT to get down into the trenches... maybe not as deep as Gore did, but if they all just stay up on Capitol Hill, their distant voices will carry very little real weight or validity in the debate.
And the BEST way they can garner face time with the media would be to WORK DIRECTLY with rescued survivors, and in being interviewed make sure to SHARE some of that face time with the TRUE FACES of the survivors of this yet-unfolding horror...
So please, next time you want to correct me, make sure you've actually read what I wrote.

LOVE your pic, btw; here's one to match ya.

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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:29 AM
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8. it's a major fuckin' crisis.... and will be for a long fuckin' time.....
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:37 AM
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12. It's a hell of a time to have a fake president.
Remember all the flak Michael Moore got for calling the chimp a fake president. This has truly shown the folly of giving this idiot the keys to what was once a super power. He has squandered much more than his illusory political capital. He has wasted thousands of lives at home and abroad.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:45 AM
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14. lesson for the next Prez
Bush is the object lesson in everything not to do as Prez. Whatever Bush does, just do the opposite.

Sue
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