Clark on Cspan1 Now ... n/t

[welshTerrier2]

n/t

[eleny]

1. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wyldwolf]

2. Great opener: Laid out his positions then said...

If that ain't a democrat.....then I must be at the wrong meeting!

[fob]

50. I just thought of something regarding is Clark a Dem question.

The speculation could be a great way to get publicity AND, more importantly, be a sublte way for independents and repukes to realize they actually are better represented by the Dems.

Think about it, if Clark is able to get across that tax cuts for the wealthy and ties it to an actual yearly salary ($200,000 I think at the debate) then some dunderhead that votes against his own self-interest by voting repuke just might figure it out and vote Dem.

In summary while Wes "defends" himself against the not-a-Dem charge, he could be very effective in doing what we have wanted all along, someone to point out what being a DEM means!

just my theory

fob
(currently leaning sharpton)

[Brian Sweat]

87. Actually, I think he should ignore the accusations that he is not

a real Democrat. Responding to the lends credence to them. Instead, he should just go out and act like a Democrat.

[La_Serpiente]

7. Dean supporter on Clark

Frankly, I don't really care about the whole Republican thing. I say, "Whatever". When people say that, I think to myself, "Is that all you've got?" They should come up with something better than that. He's alright with me and I'd support him if he won the nomination.

[Padraig18]

So will I

:thumbsup: the whole "Is he or isn't he?" is so much penny-ante, pissant MEADOW MUFFINS! :eyes:

[Larkspur]

29. Clark should come up with a record proving that he's a Democrat

Otherwise, he's just a ventriloquist's dummy spouting Democratic slogans.

[Padraig18]

37. He could NEVER do that, to your satisfaction

In another thread, you've already said you won't vote for him, even if he's the nominee. Don't pee on our legs and tell us it's raining...

:eyes:

[Larkspur]

73. No, I've said that if Clark dropped out of the President race and

ran for a lower political office -- starting with dog catcher would be a start but I'd settle for governor, senator, or US Rep -- as a Democratic candidate and built a record to evaluate, then I'd be fair to him, but if he is just going to mouth Democratic slogans and run for President, I will not support him.

My support for Clark is conditional -- he needs to hold a lower political office as a Democrat first, manage the affairs of that office well, and win re-election to that office at least once to prove his political campaign competency.

[chimpymustgo]

47. He proves it every time he opens his mouth. Clark is the ONE!

He just gave a fantastic speech, and he had the room in his HANDS!

[TLM]

96. So far the best thing that Clark Boosters can say about Clark

Is that he says the right things... that doesn't make him a democrat, that makes him a good script reader.


If Dick CHeney came out and gave the exact same answers, would you also be willing to vote for him?


Yet you are willing to vote for Clark, who is a director of the NED with the head of the Carlyle group and who was working as a lobbyist for henry kissinger up until the day he declared his intention to seek the dem nomination.


I simply do not understand how some people can ignore this HUGE red flags about Clark, simply because he says the right buzzwords and sound bytes.

[SWPAdem]

101. What I don't understand

is why you cannot accept and respect the opinion of others?

[Name removed]

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[Larkspur]

74. I'm a real person

Clark's ventriloquist is the military-industrial complex.

[Renew Deal]

75. Sure

back it up.

[TLM]

97. Clark is a BOD member of the NED, with the head of Carlyle...

you can not get more MIC than Carlyle.

[Name removed]

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[SWPAdem]

76. And you would be the very first to squeal

if a Clark supporter showed up and posted a derogatory message on the Dean speech thread.

[Larkspur]

88. No, I wouldn't be the first

There are a ton more Dean supporters quicker than me.

[Cush]

3. "Al Gore's Campaign

was a winning campaign"

[robbedvoter]

4. States all his beliefs and"if that doesn't mean being a Dem

I am in the wrong meeting" mentioned Gore's winning campaign (thank you!)

[DoveTurnedHawk]

5. "I Voted for Al Gore, and I'm Proud His Campaign Was a WINNING Campaign!"

Wow! Very cool.

DTH

[eleny]

6. "It's great to be home"!

[DoveTurnedHawk]

8. Nice Standing O To This, Too! (eom)

DTH

[chimpymustgo]

11. This man is LEADER.

Look at the qudience reaction, and McAuliffe's reaction. They are soaking up every word.

[RandomUser]

81. The crowd loved him!

They couldn't even settle down afterwards. They had to pound the gavel several times :)

[Kahuna]

86. They know they are hearing and seeing our next president..

My prayers are with him every single day. He must make it!

[eleny]

9. this administration

sacrificing the respect that americans fought for and earned.

[Brian Sweat]

90. This is important to me, but in all honesty

it is not just this administration. After WWII, the United States was the most respected country in the history of the world. It wasn't even close. We were the shinning beacon of everything that was good in the world.

We have spent the last 50+ years pissing that away. Bush has just accelerated the process.

[robbedvoter]

10. Crisis in leadership - Bushco sacrificing the respect abroad

endangering us + economy

[chimpymustgo]

15. Heartless, reckless, and wrong! (tax cuts)

Not compassionate conservatism.

[eleny]

12. "They're flailing and desperate"

[jumptheshadow]

13. "This White House has no plan"

They're flailing. They're desperate. They know they have a problem and they know they don't have a solution.

Tax cuts for the rich have made all Americans poorer.

[eleny]

14. "Heartless, reckless and wrong"

[wyldwolf]

16. Bush will need brothers in 49 other states to win in '04

bwahahahaha

[chimpymustgo]

That is the LINE of the campaign.

That's the "Where's the beef?" of 2003-4

[jumptheshadow]

24. Man, they loved that line

A wild ovation and lots of laughter.

[in_cog_ni_to]

64. Did Wes say that??!!! n/t

[Renew Deal]

77. Yes, It was pretty funny.

:thumbsup::kick::thumbsup:

[Brian Sweat]

91. I absolutely love the subtle ways that he is accusing Bush of

stealing the 2000 election.

[Cush]

17. Lol

If you believe the poll numbers, George W Bush will need brothers in 49 other states to take this election

[RetroLounge]

18. "I Voted for Al Gore, and I'm Proud His Campaign Was a WINNING Campaign!"

Okay, The General just moved up a bit in my estimation!

Wish I could actually see the speech. Maybe they'll replay it tonight...

[eleny]

19. Bush will need 49 more brothers...

to take *this election!" Standing O

[robbedvoter]

20. W will need brothers in 49 other states to take this election

[eleny]

22. woo-hoooooooo!

[tnlefty]

this from a "Deanie"

I loved his comment about the country is longing for smart, wise, compassionate leadership. Hahaha. So far, I like his speach and I'm giving credit where it is due.

[eleny]

26. Let's face it....

our party has depth. Dean did a great job, too! Huggs to you!

[RandomUser]

82. I agree

they're all doing good

[TLM]

98. I agree, if I were to vote based on just what he has said this week...

Clark would be a great democrat... going by his recent words alone.

However look at what he said before that, and look at what he did and who he worked for... suddenly his words and actions in the past few years make his words in the past few weeks seem like total bullshit.


He's telling us exactly what we want to hear... and too many people are buying it without askign any serious questions about Clark being a lobbyist for Kissinger, a director of the NED with the head of the carlyle group, or his comments about the great leadership of Bush and Reagan.

[tjdee]

21. Bush would need 49 other brothers to take this election!

Awesome.

[not systems]

27. That was great!!! n/t

[Kool Kitty]

23. Great line-"...I'm not a big believer in polls,

but if you look at the recent ones, he's (Bush) going to need brothers in all 49 other states to win this one."

[welshTerrier2]

25. Great Line by Clark

"i don't believe much in polls ... but if we can believe the polls today, George W. Bush will need brothers in 49 other states to take this election .."

[59millionmorons]

35. Whoever wrote that line should get a raise.

Hell that was a classic line.

[wyldwolf]

28. Another standing "O"

[SWPAdem]

30. Woo-hoo

Way to Go WES!!!!!!!!!!

[RetroLounge]

31. "Bush would need 49 other brothers to take this election!"

Clark said this??? Woo Hoo!

Has he hired Al Franken as his speech writer?

Man, that was a great line!!!

Great to see another Dem with Big Brass Cojones...

[ElsewheresDaughter]

32. "bush is gonna need a brother in the 49 other states to win this election"

did he write this speech?

[not systems]

33. Use force only, only , only as last resort.

I like this guy more and more.

[chimpymustgo]

36. OMG!!!!!! It's always sad for someone to lose a job...

But if one guy losing a job, means millions getting one back...

Standing Ovation!!!!

I'm in.

[wyldwolf]

34. GREAT line on jobs!

[eleny]

38. He's looking so presidential

I'm so proud to be a Dem. Our guys are looking and sounding terrific!

[chimpymustgo]

41. How many standing O's has he gotten. Patriotism - gets another one.

Ideals of our party, ideals of the country...
mighty wave that going to carry this party back to 1600 Pa Ave.

[59millionmorons]

42. He's got "IT"

I am not sure what it is, but Clark has "IT".

[JNelson6563]

44. yes, a good showing today

I am proud to claim the title of Democrat.

Go Dems!!!!!!!!!!

Julie

[La_Serpiente]

39. Just a reccomendation

I just have a question and reccomendation on Clark...Is there more to Clark than just his military record? I mean, if we're going to analyze his records, we're going to have to look at his decisions during his military tenure.

[KittyWampus]

58. He Worked With Inner City Kids In Early 60's

I would like more info the stuff he did for the military men and women who served under him.

Specifics about his organizing DayCare, Education and Couseling for Abused Women.

It's one thing for him to have done stuff like that... but he & his campaign has to blow his own horn.

[Clark Can WIN]

105. RESOURCE PRIORITIES - AN INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE

This is a LENGTHY document, scroll down to about 3/5 of the way down the page to the section titled RESOURCE PRIORITIES - AN INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE

http://armedservices.house.gov/testimony/106thcongress/99-03-17clark.htm

It's Wes fighting for better health care, better schools and better quaility of life for the families under his command. Sounds pretty damn democratic to me.

This freakin report would have taken me 6 months to write, but I bet he whipped it up in just a few hours! I've never been so happy to have someone else make me feel like such an underachiever! :dunce:


Go WES!

I get to see him on Monday :bounce:

[eleny]

40. He's preaching now!

"We're going to build a mighty wave" WOW!

[not systems]

43. Support for dissent in time of war.

Wow he is great today.

I'm now supporting Dean and Clark in any order.

[madmax]

45. Ladies and Gentlemen

Prrrrrrrrrrresident Wesley Clark
:loveya:

[Kahuna]

89. Yeah, Baby! Yeah!...

[Spazito]

46. Wow!

That was great! As a Canadian, I am watching the democratic candidates very closely! As close friends and caring neighbours, we sure want to see a "regime change" in the US. The democrats have 10 great candidates! Congrats!

[wyldwolf]

48. Gotta say... I was REAL impressed with Dean's speech... But Clark's...

just ROCKED!

[jumptheshadow]

49. Can you believe?

This guy has been on the campaign trail for what -- three weeks?

Can you imagine what he's going to be like with a mastery of all the details on all the issues and some more campaign experience under his belt?

[StephNW4Clark]

51. Can you wait for the next debate?

I can't wait to see him rip on foreign policy!!!

[chimpymustgo]

53. Good point, Jump. He's getting exponentially better every time he

speaks. He's awesome.

[texas is the reason]

52. another deanie givin it up for wes..

he looked really good up there (even with the notecards! lol) i gotta say, i think bush now has two great candidates to look out for... i hope clark and dean dont burn any bridges between them, because a dean/clark or clark/dean ticket would be the best democratic ticket EVER!!

[DoveTurnedHawk]

55. Please Write Dean

Ask him not to go negative on Clark! I've already done the same thing, with Clark about Dean!

DTH

[texas is the reason]

57. good point- will do..

[gully]

61. OK, Clark kicked ASS today!!!

Gotta hand it to the man. He said what I needed to hear. I hope he's sincere.

I missed Dean's speach, and Deans still my man, will be to the end whatever end that is. But I'm likin what Clark is saying today very much.

Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean = UNSTOPPPPPPABLE!!!!

[texas is the reason]

65. yep- and dean was on fire too - lookout bushie!!!

[DoveTurnedHawk]

68. Thank You Gully!

I appreciate this very much coming from you!

:toast:

DTH

[gully]

99. Credit where credit is due my friend...

:thumbsup:

[SWPAdem]

84. Dean did a great job, too

n/t

[gully]

Fargen dup post...

woops!

[gully]

100. Thanks SWPA. I always love Howard Dean...

:loveya:

[chimpymustgo]

56. I still like Clark/Edwards, but Clark/ Kerry, Clark/Anybody!

President Wesley Clark.

[tjdee]

62. Et tu, chimpymustgo?

Aw man, are the Edwards supporters down to just me, AP, PurityofEssence, and jenk(I think?)??

*low whistle*

Sigh, LOL.

[KittyWampus]

72. Edwards Isn't Out Of The Mix Yet! Don't Give Up!

He is a GREAT candidate and may stage a comeback... even after the first 2 primary votes.

He is a truly sincere candidate who does little bashing of his opponents.

[tjdee]

78. Dupe post

Dupe post.

[tjdee]

80. Great cartoon!

Thanks for the consolation, LOL--Edwards is a fantastic guy, and I hope he catches on soon.

But Clark I like very much as well.

[janekat]

83. Edwards is young - he has a lot of time left

he's getting a lot of experience in this campaign and will kick ass in the future. He is our candidate of the future IMO. He could also end up being the VP candidate - which would line him up nicely...

[Clark Can WIN]

107. oops

oops

[LittleApple81]

54. Did you see the glint in his eye when he was getting ready to

say something like (referring to Bush*): it is sad for anybody to lose his job, but it is needed for a man to lose his job so millions of others can get jobs.

I loved that glint!

[watercolors]

59. THE GENERAL HAS OUR VOTE!!

He spoke from the heart, my husband and I both sat there and applauded the man. He is a tiger and a candidate to reckon with.

GO WES!!!We know will donate to a sure winner!

[DoveTurnedHawk]

60. Welcome Aboard!

Your words are like music to my ears! Here's to you, watercolors and watercolors' husband!

:toast:

DTH

[StephNW4Clark]

63. If you want to see how General Clark responds

in a town hall meeting (NH) reference this:
http://www.c-span.org/search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=clark+town+hall

[Ivote]

66. WERE TAKING BACK OUR FLAG - WERE MOVING OUT

http://www.clark04.com/

http://clark2004.meetup.com/
Sign up and check out for dates and times in your area.

[WhosNext]

67. What was the speech?

Is it another town hall meeting? Inform those who can't get to a TV :)

[StephNW4Clark]

69. It was at the DNC lunch broadcast by c-span

It's streaming on cspan.org, but I think it will more than likely be replayed repeatedly.

[tjdee]

70. It's the DNC Fall Meeting.

I don't know if all the candidates are speaking today (I think Edwards is going tomorrow??), but they all get to give a pretty speech at some point during this event.

[catforclark2004]

79. The General ain't taking no prisoners!

The General is not only listing the failures of the current administration, but he is also proposing his vision for the future. I believe that he portrays the relunctant candidate that is running because he feels he must.....and he is very convicing about it. There is a certain humility that shines through that compliments the fact that he is not a life time politician.

[Kahuna]

93. I feel exactly the same way. It's not about him...

It's about us. And he will listen to us and care about what we (all Americans) want and what we think. He is our champion. And he is going to open up a serious can of whoop-ass on the bushistas after he wins the White House.

[kentuck]

92. Judging from the responses here on DU....

Wes Clark made the biggest impression at the meeting...

[Kahuna]

94. General Clark has a real aura surrounding him..

I've been fortunate to be in his presence twice and it is there. I hope that it is an aura of protection. Because he is ready to take on the bushistas and neocons and he will need a tremendous amount of courage, faith and all the good and positive vibes we can send his way.

[gully]

102. He had to IMHO.

Clark needed to speak to the concerns WE had/have about him. He still does. He needs to talk every chance he gets about

1. His conversion to the Democratic Party.

2. His position that WAR is a last resort

3. His plans/solutions to the issues that face our country.

4. Why he's qualified to lead our nation inspite of his lack of 'so called' formal experience in politics.

As I said, I still prefer my beloved Governor because of his outstanding record in Vermont, his being there for me when so few were in all this madness, his concrete solid positions/solutions to the issues that face our nation and his amazing leadership skills.

But, it's gonna come down to 1 of 3 guys against Shrub (most likely?)

Dean
Clark
Kerry

I want to feel good about them ALL, and I still anxiously await Clark's position/plans for the country (in writing) somewhere (approved by the Clark campaign, KWIM?) C'mon issues page!!!

Clark moved up a notch for me today though, that's for sure. Am still a bit 'gun shy' though, and hope to be convinced that Clark would be as good a choice President of the US of A as Dean or Kerry.

[welshTerrier2]

95. Clark's speech

was great ...

i still know very little about him ... i think no one should endorse him before he puts some details on the table ... nor should anyone dismiss him ... he has real potential to go all the way ...

all the speeches today were eloquent ... candidates who mumbled and stumbled several months ago have grown into excellent orators ...

[jumptheshadow]

103. You are so right about that

The candidates are terrific. We can fight toe-to-toe with the Republicans now. And when they accuse us of having no valid alternatives we have some well thought out, commonsensical proposals to give them.

[gully]

104. Exactly WT2.... N/T

[Loyal]

106. Clark looked good

I thought that all the candidates who spoke at the meeting did a good job.

[RandomUser]

108. The most telling part was after he stepped down

Of all the candidates, they had the most trouble calming the crowd after him. They pounded the gavel...waited...pounded...started speaking...pounded again...! lol. The crowd couldn't calm down after Clark finished :)

[robbedvoter]

109. Transcript of the speech

http://tinyurl.com/pn40