Curt Weldon on CSPAN2 ABLE DANGER

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NOW

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1. Curt's role is over. Time to refocus the story n/t

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2. I think any information is important

BUDDY BUDDY
http://www.gsnmagazine.com.nyud.net:8090/images/aug_05/atta.jpg
DO THE MATH

24 MINUTES

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER

http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html

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3. Flames not directed at you.

Thanks for the heads up.:hi:

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4. Sorry I just woke up

:hi:

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9. Still working on that 1st cup o' coffee, myself.

Have no appetite, otherwise. Sleep has been a real relief.

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13. Did Weldon have anything interesting to say?

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5. "Five People Now Recall The Existence of Chart Identifying Atta"

"Five People Now Recall The Existence of Chart Identifying Atta"

Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three more people associated with a secret U.S. military intelligence team have asserted that the program identified September 11 ringleader Mohammed Atta as an Al Qaeda suspect inside the United States more than a year before the 2001 attacks, the
Pentagon said on Thursday.

The Pentagon said a three-week review had turned up no documents to back up the assertion, but did not rule out that such documents relating to the classified operation had been destroyed.

Downs said that three more people, as well as Phillpott and Shaffer, recalled the existence of an intelligence chart identifying Atta by name. Four of the five recalled a photo of Atta accompanying the chart, Downs said.

Pentagon officials declined to identify the three by name, but said they were an analyst with the military's Special Operations Command, an analyst with the Land Information Warfare Assessment Center and a contractor who supported the center.

more
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/security_attacks_pentagon_dc



Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1727804&mesg_id=1727804


post by robertpaulsen

Able Danger is a Pandora's Box that will blow up in the RW's face.
Re-open the 9/11 investigation? BRING IT ON! Here's why:

So the responsibility for stopping DIA program Able Danger, which had Identified Atta and 3 other hijackers and linked them to 56 other al-Queda terrorists overseas, has been laid at the feet of Bill Clinton--except he and Richard Clarke were never told about it at all.

That's right. Bill Clinton was never told about Able Danger and the ID of Atta because Richard Clarke was never told about AD. How do I know? He never wrote about it in his book, nor did he testify about it's existence before the 9-11 Commission!

You see Richard Clarke was known for being obsessed with Osama Bin Laden and HE was the guy the neo-con moles did not want to find out about Atta and the gang. Schoomaker and the neo-cons knew telling the FBI would inform Clarke and then Mr. Laser Beam himself, President of the United State William Jefferson Clinton, would have gotten involved--and the Pearl Harbor-type attack would never take place (the neo-cons talked about the need for a Pearl Harbor-type attack before the PNAC Plan would be accepted by the American people--so when one presented itself, they let it happen).

General Pete Schoomaker, who were later heavily rewarded by the neo-cons in the Bush Administration, blocked the upward motion of the DIA information by having Shaffer and Philpott meet with Pentagon lawyers opinions--lawyers who were rubberstamping ridiculous legal opinions to carry out the neo-con plan. These certain people were neo-cons in the Clinton Administration, covertly carrying out the PNAC plan to let a Pearl Harbor-type attack occur so Iraq and 6 other countries could be invaded.


MUST READ - RE: ABLE DANGER INFO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4447706

Hopsicker: Able Danger Intel Exposed "Protected" Heroin Trafficking
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x149481

Able Danger: Short Time-line

Was Able Danger Shut Down After It Detected Condi-PRC Spy Ring?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4494524


Congressman Weldon -- Why now? Why ever?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4500623

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6. Is this a rerun?

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7. Yes but I have never seen it

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8. DU's Paul Thompson's statement from LBN

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1744982&mesg_id=1745071

paulthompson (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-01-05 07:53 PM
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7. Hopefully, DUers will stop downplaying this story
I'm surprised by how many DUers have been skeptical of this Able Danger story, thinking it's some kind of right wing plot to discredit Clinton. That's not true. Maybe that was Representative Curt Weldon's motivation, but as the story develops it becomes clear to me that this story is just as much a problem for Bush as for Clinton, if not more so.

The Able Danger team was disbanded in Feb. 2001. That's just weeks after Bush came into office. One of the Able Danger whistleblowers stated on MNSBC's "The Big Idea" show the other night that he believes it was disbanded because their unorthodox data analysis methods were showing ties between US government officials and overseas criminal activity. As soon as Bush gets into office, he shuts this unit down. Was he trying to protect powerful people with criminal ties? We need to keep digging. The whistleblower also stated that in 2000 he was told by a two star general NOT to go after Atta or he would lose his job. It seems to me that Able Danger was on the verge of finding out some scandalous things, and I suspect that general was part of some kind of corruption.

Able Danger is not a Curt Weldon anti-Clinton fantasy. The facts fit in with everything I know about 9/11. For instance, check out the below Associated Press story from December 2001, showing that Atta WAS living in Brooklyn in the spring of 2000, just as Able Danger says, and something the 9/11 Commission whitewash has denied and continues to deny.

Investigator: Atta Visited New York Before Attacks

http://www.nctimes.net/news/2001/20011209/61522.html

NEW YORK — Mohamed Atta, suspected ringleader of the Sept. 11 terrorist hijackings, rented rooms in New York City in the spring of 2000 with another hijacker, a federal investigator said. Authorities learned of their stay in New York while retracing the hijackers' steps before the attacks, according to the investigator, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

Investigators confirmed that Atta and the second man rented rooms in Brooklyn and the Bronx, and are trying to identify anyone who might have supported them.

Atta's trail in Brooklyn began with a parking ticket issued to a rental car he was driving, said a senior Justice Department official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity.

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10. I spoke to Paul about this a couple weeks ago.

IMHO, it really isn't that important whether Atta was physically in the US in 1999. The "Brooklyn" cell designation reportedly refers to an al-Qaeda communications link that runs through a hub in Brooklyn.

The issue arose because Phil Zelikow, the 9/11 Commission staff director, seized on the apparent discrepency between Able Danger's 1999 identification of Atta and linkage with Flt. 77 al-Hazmi and al-Midhar. Zelikow was apparently just assuming that the linkage placed Atta inside the US several months before he was first issued a visitor's visa.

Able Danger could well have identified Atta, even if he was abroad, and linked him to the others on the basis of late 1999 NSA intercepts that determined that the ALs were planning to attend an al-Qaeda planning summit in Kuala Lumpur in early Jan. 2000. That meeting was also attended by Ramzi bin al Shehb, Atta's roomate in Hamburg. The CIA and a number of other agencies surveilled that summit, at which the 9/11 attacks and the USS Cole bombing were planned.

I believe the primary thing they're still trying to cover up here was the advance knowledge of the attacks, AD's analysts access to classified NSA/DIA files, and the fact that AQ had been penetrated by multiple double-agents.

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11. Did you get to see McKinney's hearings - Paul was GREAT

Maybe they will rerun them or I wonder if the hearings can be watched on line, it was excellent, they talked about Able Danger

Yes **** Zelikow and Shoomaker ****

McKinney's 9/11 Hearings Moved to Main C-SPAN Channel.
C-SPAN has kicked its broadcast of 9/11-related hearings to a higher profile spot on the main C-SPAN Channel.

Originally slated for C-SPAN2, this will reach a broader audience.

I've listed the 9/11 Public Discourse stuff being broadcast this week as well.

Monday, August 29th

08:00 PM EDT
3:00 (est.) Forum
Civil Liberties and Security
9/11 Public Discourse Project
Mickey Edwards , R-OK
Christopher Shays , R-CT

Tuesday, August 30th

08:00 PM EDT
2:00 (est.) Forum
Foreign Policy: Afghanistan, Pakistan & Saudi Arabia
9/11 Public Discourse Project
Dennis Ross , Department of State
Elizabeth Jones , United States

Wednesday August 31st

08:00 PM EDT
3:32 (est.) Forum
September 11 Commission Report Results, Pt. 1
U.S. House of Representatives, McKinney, C. (D-GA)
Rebecca Daugherty , Freedom of Info. Service Center
Wayne Smith , Center for International Policy

Thursday, Sept 1st

08:00 PM EDT
2:00 (est.) Forum
Winning the Struggle of Ideas
9/11 Public Discourse Project
Thomas H. Kean , 9/11 Public Discourse Project
RE-AIR

Friday, Sept. 2nd

08:00 PM EDT
4:55 (est.) Forum
September 11 Commission Report Results, Pt. 2
U.S. House of Representatives, McKinney, C. (D-GA)
Cynthia McKinney , D, Georgia (State)

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12. No, sorry I missed that. I'll ask Paul if it's available.

Thanks again!

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14. On line photo link

For anyone reading and doesn't know Paul, he's that darkhaired really good lookin' guy on the right





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