Tell me this is not true..... Tens of thousands of victims in NO ... MSNBC

[Botany]

I heard that early this AM ...... went back to sleep.

Please this is not about politics, this is about people and
I am heart sick. Does anybody know or have a guess @ the figures
for the total # of deaths?

:cry:

[Be Brave]

1. If you do the math, it actually turns out to be a very conservative

number, I'm sad to say.

[radfringe]

21. Official Death Toll Starts to Mount

Official Death Toll Starts to Mount
Thousands of Bodies Are Expected in a Recovery Process That May Last Months
By Scott Gold, Richard A. Serrano and Peter H. King, Times Staff Writers

NEW ORLEANS — The nation's senior health official bluntly predicted Sunday that Hurricane Katrina's death toll would rise into the thousands as Louisiana medical authorities tallied the first sobering evidence — 59 dead in makeshift morgues and another 100 corpses lined on docks east of the flood-swept city.

Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt became the first senior Bush administration official to confirm publicly that arriving teams of medical examiners expected to spend months collecting bodies.

Leavitt said it was "evident" that the storm killed thousands.

---snip from page 2 ---

Sen. Mary L. Landrieu (D-La.), the daughter of a former New Orleans mayor, has long urged the Bush administration to provide more money for levee construction, but said that the funds were instead reduced. She said Sunday that she was growing increasingly tired of having Bush visit the region, accompanied by television cameras, rather than sending real help.

"Would the president please stop taking photo-ops," she said on ABC's "This Week." "We are never going to get this fixed if he does not send us help now."

She also objected to criticism by federal officials about local responses.

"If one person criticizes them or says one more thing, including the president of the United States, he will hear from me," she said. "One more word about it after this show airs and I might likely have to punch him. Literally."

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After the "official" number is announced -- how many died from the storm and how many died because bush* fiddled?

[ohio_liberal]

2. Nobody has an accurate count

They're estimating the number evacuated before the storm hit, the number left behind, the ones at the dome/convention center, and those that they are picking up by helicopter/bus in and around the floodwaters. 50,000-100,000 dead for the entire area is not far-fetched, IMO.

[cynatnite]

6. I think it'll be around 50k...

but several said that it was too conservative of an estimate.

Will we ever truly know? :cry:

[nookiemonster]

3. It's just speculation,

but "tens of thousands" would probably be pretty damn close.

Just wait until they drain the city, and have to go house by house.

:cry:

[tjdee]

4. Well, why didn't they leave?--Compassionate conservative response.

:(

[Walt Starr]

5. Could be as high as 50,000

Under the computer models, it'll reach close to 100,000

[Wilber_Stool]

9. That would be my guess too................n/t

[OhioChick]

7. I believe that

Nagin said yesterday on CNN that he guesses that 60,000 are unaccounted for.

[dogday]

8. Mayor said 80% or people got out

used the figure 500,000 that leaves 200,000 left in NO, do the math, it isn't good....

[never_get_over_it]

17. 20% of 500,000 is 100,000 not 200,000

I heard on Ray Taliaferro that many models were showing 50K - We may never really know but I've felt all along that it was going to be WAY WORSE than 9-11. I'm just hoping that the same thing that happened on the 9-11 count happens here - before they had a final numbers for 9-11 the estimates were MUCH HIGHER than it turned out to be - I'm praying that is the case for this disaster also

[cynatnite]

18. I remember 6,000 was estimated from 9/11

If the same thing happened, the minimum would be 25k. I do think it'll be in the 50k range.

[dogday]

22. OOps never was very good at math

[Wilber_Stool]

23. Yes, but the administration wanted

the death toll to be higher on 9/11. Not so this one.

[still_one]

10. I hope it is wrong also

but I remember discussing this with my colleagues how it could run into the tens of thousands, especially if help is NOT gotten in there quickly after the storm.

[MadeinOhio]

11. May be as many as 80,000 deaths....from this.

Not 84 like the lying fox news said. :crazy:

[Botany]

12. Thanks ....... all

I kinda of ran the #s myself and tried to put it out of my mind.

Death of the "Big Easy," is going to hurt this country in a major
way. Damn!

[crispini]

13. hi cuddles.

:hug:

[Botany]

19. Hi Crispini

Well i guess having the head of FEMA being the former consul of
Arabian Show Horse Assoc. ...... "not so much."

I just ran the #s again ...... 500,000 x 80% who left
gives 100,000 in NO 30,000 @ Super Dome and convention center
gives 70,000 left about 5,000 have been rescued by boat and
copter ..... 65,000 still not accounted for in just NO ........

This is criminal .... either deliberate or negligent homicide.

Funny TV crews could get to the people but FEMA & others could not?
Troops not sent in because of gunfire? but * will send the same troops
down some god awful road in Iraq?

[converted_democrat]

14. I think there is 30,000 gone. n/t

[cynatnite]

15. Population of NO:

The 2000 census put New Orleans's population at 484,674 and the population of Greater New Orleans at 1,337,726.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans

By these numbers, the toll will go much higher.

[undeterred]

16. I heard the mayor say 80% of 500,000 in NO evacuated

before Katrina hit. That's 400,000, leaving 100,000 behind.

50,000 have been evacuated after the storm.

That leaves 50,000 unaccounted for.

Very rough estimates, and that's just for NO.

[Spangle]

20. Remember, people died after being rescued

from lack of water or because it was all "to much."

Some survivers are dying waiting to be resecued.

Some died during the storm or from injurys after the storm.

80% that evacuated, not all left the devistation area. It was bigger and worse then expected. Some could have evacuated OUT of the city into "higher grounds", that ended up wiped out.