Gen. Honore: "THERE IS NO RED TAPE. THAT IS BS."

[complain jane]

On MSNBC right now.

[Be Brave]

1. He's got his orders. n/t

[kerryin2004]

that guy needs a valium.

and anger managemennt.

[xultar]

18. Honore is doing what needs to be done. I respect and love that guy.

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. People aren't coming to help because of the security issue

He's full of shit. It's because FEMA refuses to let them in.

What crap.

[xultar]

15. I bet he doesn't know what the incompetent FUCKS of FEMA are doing.

[DoYouEverWonder]

46. Okay I get it

Is this General a National Guard?

Then his responses would make more sense. He's probably as po'd as the rest of us with what BushCo has done to the Guard. They've lost a lot of people because of BushCo.

[cornermouse]

3. He's wrong.

I'm sorry, but he's just wrong.

[xultar]

14. It is FEMA that is stopping people @ the edge of the city not the NG

He's right about that.

[cornermouse]

39. Then he needs to have his underlings contact the hospitals.

directly. Because the hospitals have been trying and its a fact that they aren't there because they don't want to be.

[Helga Scow Stern]

4. Nominated to get the truth out and unspin the spin.

[glarius]

5. Oh. I see.

[Pithy Cherub]

6. have you BEEN to New Orleans

then why the hell are you repeating what somebodyelse has said. get down there and help. I :loveya: General Honore. He just TOTALLY embarrassed the Secretary of DHS & the FEMA Director by showing LEADERSHIP! :applause: :woohoo: :applause:

[xultar]

9. I love Honore too! When he said were u there. Did you get accosted?

[Be Brave]

7. Asked by a female reporter if NO is secure, he replied

"Did anybody acost you?" Reporter replies, "No." General says, "Then it's secure!"

[linazelle]

8. He seems to think he's being blamed, instead of FEMA and of

course there's no effort to make the distinction between the two.

[monobrau]

10. No, I think he's covering for the fancy pants next to him -NT

[xultar]

12. It is FEMA that is stopping people @ the edge of the city

[sandnsea]

24. Under DHS orders???

That's the question. Is Bush & Chertoff making that decision? Is it part of their plan to try and militarize the situation and send in troops? Is this really an experiment to see how hard it would be to put a state under martial law? I don't know, but my gut tells me there is something going on besides incompetence.

[NYC]

43. FEMA is part of Homeland Security. Homeland Security calls the shots.

Bush, Chertoff, Brown. All responsible for what has gone on. Chertoff and Brown can hardly be described as "independent".

[DoYouEverWonder]

44. Rummie's been running the show

He officially took control last Weds.

[charlie]

11. Like I've been saying

You can see why this guy was picked. He's a character, larger than life. And he's a Bushco company man. Honore's going to be lionized before this is over. The media needs its heroes and Honore is going to be the one.

[xultar]

16. Honore will blow the whistle on FEMA. I don't think he knows what FEMA

is up to. HEll FEMA doesn't know what they are up to.

[charlie]

21. Don't buy it

Did you see the hurricane timeline he delivered yesterday, unprompted and unasked? The one that made it clear that the feds (read: Bush) couldn't possibly be faulted for their response? It was an impressive bit of theater, and complete bullshit. He's in their pocket.

[xultar]

25. Honore wasn't appointed until Thursday. Furthermore they didn't listen

to him. Honore is a Black man. You think they'd listen to him?

[charlie]

27. Eh?

What's Thursday got to do with anything?

And who said anything about listening to him? Colin Powell is a black man. He's useful. Like Colin.

[oasis]

34. I agree. Bush needs another Bernard Kerik/ Giulliani figure. A go-to guy

for photo ops with the prez after the smoke clears.

[stray cat]

13. So far the general has been one of the few competent additions

He is known as the crazy cajun - this is his home turf and he actually seems like he cares and knows what he is doing.

[undeterred]

17. Nagin called him a "John Wayne" type of dude

who came in and started cussin' and people started movin'.

It was the only positive thing Nagin said about Bush in the Thursday night interview.

[Wizard777]

36. Go Sir Duke! We're Living for the City. We need a Master Blaster to lead

us to the Higher Ground so we can reach that Ribbon In The Sky. So What's The Fuss?

[Connie_Corleone]

19. FEMA is the problem. Not the National Guard.

Gen. Honore and the National Guard are doing their job. They've been doing it since they got there Thursday night/Friday. It's FEMA who is screwing up.

[DoYouEverWonder]

45. The National Guard is trained for running disaster relief

They need to bring the guard home from Iraq and let them do what they were trained for.

Is this General a NG? I haven't been watching much TV.

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[MadeinOhio]

22. I noticed it. Total class racists. ...

[complain jane]

29. He was blasting the right's claim that they had to wait for full authority

It was a good thing he was yelling.

[bushisanidiot]

32. Chertoff is the idiot.. and AWOL Bush is the bigger idiot..

Honore is doing what needs to be done while AWOL Bush spends his nights with his fucking lips around Jeff Gannon's cock

[lpbk2713]

23. "One of these days this disaster's gonna end."

[complain jane]

26. I thought he meant "red tape" on the part of the LOCAL government.

I thought this was defending the governor and the mayor.

Chertoff's just useless.

[complain jane]

28. THIS WAS IN DEFENSE OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT

Not the feds. I just heard the whole thing again.

The reporter asked Honore if they were being prevented from rescuing anyone, because they don't have 'full authority' and Honore blew up and said that was BS. He said go there yourself, you can help all the people you want, there's no waiting for anything.

In other words, the RW spin is a load of bullshit!

[Connie_Corleone]

30. People here are so quick to jump down someone's throat...

I wish they would listen more carefully and quit flying off the handle everytime someone says something.

[BootinUp]

38. I think you're right.

I couldn't here the reporter too well.

[bushisanidiot]

31. Chertoff has left Gen. Honore out of the loop.. Chertoff tried to correct

Gen. Honore when he told the reporters that people are free to come down and help.. when Chertoff corrected him saying no, they have to go through FEMA, Chertoff stormed off in the middle of Chertoff's answer.. and Chertoff stopped mid-sentence and followed him..

i expect chertoff to get a good verbal smacking around by Honore in the next few minutes for leaving him hanging out to dry like that

[SlowDownFast]

35. That was my assessment of that press conference, also.

I don't put it past Honore as being in *'s pocket, but that little interuption by Chertoff correcting Honore's saying everyone can get into NO to help was telling...

[NYC]

47. So Chertoff made it clear on TV that FEMA is the stumbling block?

Did he admit that FEMA (under the direction of Homeland Security) has been preventing aid?

[oddtext]

33. maybe he means "there's no red tape, we sat and laughed our asses off ...

at these pathetic MREs for alligators and rats."

maybe there wasn't red tape. if not, someone is going to PRISON.

[Union Thug]

37. and the propaganda machine spins on...

Everything is fine. You love martial law. Military rule is good for you. You are feeling safe, secure and loved. George Bush loves you. He cares. You love martial law... Everything is fine.

Now get back to work and don't complain.

[zoeybug]

40. I think he just did an end-run around FEMA

Honore just told everyone to come and help, that they wouldn't be stopped by red tape.

Chertoff responded with some bullshit about how things must go through the proper channels, be co-ordinated by the proper authorities, etc. Honore then stormed off.

Honore just let everyone know that the NG wants the help & will let people help. If you want to help contact him, don't go through FEMA.

[xultar]

50. Exact.y. To bad people are too dense to really see what is going on

We tend to tear our people apart before trying to understand the bigger picture.

Honore just totally took FEMA out of the picture.

[mtnester]

41. I watched a small mini spot on either CNN or MSNBC the other day on Honore

Standing on his command corner, beating a cigar nub to death with his mouth, screaming at soldiers in their trucks going by to lower their damn weapons, that he would not let them go out with their guns in shooting position when all they were doing was delivering food to FELLOW AMERICANS.

Love on the spot for me.

[Lochloosa]

48. I saw the same thing....He was screaming at his men to lower their

weapons. You could tell he wants to help these people, not treat them as criminals. And, did you notice the fat ass white NO cop slowly shaking his head as he lowered his gun....like "who the fuck is this black man telling me what to do"

[Texas_Kat]

42. He was countering a 'meme' being spead by Repub Cong Jindel

eom

Chertoff was about to burst a blood vessel

[lebkuchen]

49. Honore should focus on rescuing the Gulf States

not Chertoff, Brown, or Bush. He may be John Wayne when it comes to getting things moving on the tarmac, but in terms of camouflaging abject incompetence at the federal level, he's no Atlas.