Clinton: "No actual person in charge!"

[Generic Other]

He just said it on CNN and gave one of those quick eye shift looks when he said it.

[stray cat]

1. No one in charge and no one held accountable

Clinton has it right - complete and utter lack of leadership

[Tyranny_R_US]

2. Do I detect his balls dropping a little bit?

[The Backlash Cometh]

53. Must be a very warm day.

[JuniperLea]

3. More

I got rid of cable six weeks ago! This is the only sort of thing I miss:(

[liveoaktx]

38. Vid Clip

In Charge

Political Videos

[AmBlue]

51. Dang, you're good, liveoaktx!!

Thanks!

[knowbody0]

4. i can see his rage

and im on board with those who believe he has infiltrated the bush family with his shrewd charm and will turn on them like a barracuda when the time is right.

[JuniperLea]

10. From your keypad to God's eyes

I was just having this conversation with my boyfriend not an hour ago. I was hoping for an ulterior motive and thinking along these sames lines. A move like that would be genius.

[yy4me]

13. I hope you are right,

I have been disgusted with him for pandering to papa Sr. Maybe it is for a reason. I miss his leadership. No way this would happen if he was still around. We protect ourselves by allowing only 2 terms but leave ourselves open to incompetents for the same amount of time.

[mzmolly]

5. He also criticized FEMA and said we need an investigation.

So good to hear a real President speak.

[knowbody0]

8. ya fuckin hoo!

[JuniperLea]

16. Ears are wide open

...and searching for something relevant to their thoughts and in a manner they can bring themselves to believe. Bill could so easily capture the ears of the real America. There needs to be an outcry for more of his support. Someone has to do something to unite us again.

Bill's Blow Job = Monica

George's Blow Job = Katrina


Do the math.

[OneGrassRoot]

30. Omigod, that's hilarious....and oh so true!!!! n/t

[AbbyR]

59. I'm saving this one....

Bill's Blow Job = Monica

George's Blow Job = Katrina


I'm sure I'll get a chance to use it in some reply to a freeper email.

[ClayZ]

61. Bwaaahahhahahh!

:rofl:

[katinmn]

77. And no repealing of the estate tax! Not when we must help

out the poor people who lost everything.

Go Bill. So good to see the real Bill back.

[undeterred]

6. And isn't that what he said right after the tsunami?

Someone needs to step up and take leadership. God, even with all his flaws, he was a real world class leader and still is.

[natrat]

31. well at least he speaks in coherent sentences

seems like we got very few other voices,,,and the ones we got are be loked into by der fuehrer's cia

[B Calm]

7. I caught it ... lol

[kentuck]

9. Dubya will request that he be dropped off the tour...

to make him look good and to blame someone else...

[FreedomAngel82]

71. I wouldn't be surprised

Then people will get mad at him cause people still love Clinton.

[NYC]

11. That comes from the top: Bush, Chertoff, Brown.

No actual person is in charge. That's for certain.

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. This is why he's been playing

kissy face with the Bush's. He would have never been able to get as much camera time on M$M if he wasn't part of the 'team'. He would be on the sidelines with the rest of us. Bill is taking control of the situation and Bush and Poppy are too busy doing photo ops to notice.

[MojoXN]

14. Well, Bill, FUCK YOU!

If there was "no actual person in charge", the question then becomes, "Whose job was it to PUT someone in charge?" And the answer to THAT one is obvious: George W. Bush.

MojoXN

[B Calm]

19. Most people can read between the lines...

[MojoXN]

28. No, most DU'ers can read between the lines.

The rest of the goddamn country is too FUCKING STUPID, so I have to fill in the blanks for them. Sorry about stating the obvious, it's just that I'm so bloody used to having to do it for everyone all the damn time.

MojoXN

[Stevepol]

67. The American people are not stupid: they're just disenfranchised.

Make the voting machine counting transparent and see how fast the American people become geniuses.

[earth mom]

23. Exactly! Fuck You Bill Clinton!

:grr:

[mzmolly]

32. My guess - he feels Americans (like yourself) will connect the dots.

So uhm, FUCK YOU GEORGE BUSH, is more like it.

[Lecky]

37. Get a grip

It was VERY obvious who Clinton was referring to...

[MojoXN]

44. Obvious to US. Not to Bushites.

They CAN'T read between the lines. If they could, we probably wouldn't have been in this mess with Dubya. Like I said in post #28, we DU'ers CAN read between the lines. I'm so used to dealing with fucking halfwits on a day to day basis that I forget that y'all aren't stupid. No offense intended, everyone. For the record:

FUCK YOU GEORGE W. BUSH!!!

MojoXN

[Lecky]

45. but if they are Bushites...

To them it doesn't really matter what Clinton...ESPECIALLY Clinton has to say about the matter or who he blames.

I'm sorry you seem to be surrounded by so many, most of the "Bushites" I know keep their mouths shut these days...I would as well if I were them.

[autorank]

56. This is ABSOLUTELY TRUE. Let's tell the TRUTH, that's ALL

This is total bull shit. It is an attack on Americans through the gross negligence of the boy king. It's placed us at danger and it threatens every one of us. We're next.

WHERE'S THE GOD DAMN OUTRAGE???

[B Calm]

15. If we could have a recall vote on Bush like they did in California,

he would be gone tomorrow!

[mountainvue]

18. Can we recall him? n/t

[B Calm]

20. Sorry, he has to be impeached....

[JuniperLea]

21. There must certainly be enough fodder for that by now!

What are the rules and regs and who is looking into this?

[Peace Patriot]

69. There is only one entity that can impeach a president, and that is...

...Congress, which is full of Bush "pod people," ALSO "selected" by Diebold and ES&S's secret, proprietary vote tabulation software. No hope there, I'm afraid--unless there is a plot to elevate Cheney, which I think is a potential scenario in backroom goings on right now. (Doofus or Darth Vader? --your choice).

The House of Reps has to investigate and write up a Bill of Impeachment charging the president with "high crimes and misdemeanors." Then the whole Congress votes. Don't recall how many votes needed. If they impeach Bush, Cheney automatically becomes prez, unless they simultaneously impeach Cheney--and you will notice, in that regard, his invisibility throughout the hurricane debacle (in the bunker somewhere counting out the gold coins of his Halliburton "severance" package, now improved with the first LA hurricane contract).

Now it's possible that Fitzgerald may indict Cheney--so I don't know what will happen in that case. It will not automatically put Cheney out of office, even if he is convicted. He must be impeached by Congress--and Congress does not have to obey any judge or prosecutor in what to do about that. They can keep Cheney. I suppose he could be V-P even in jail (if somebody can arrest him). I wouldn't put anything past Bush's "pod people" in Congress.

I've had the curious feeling of late that Bush is being dumped by his puppetmasters. That may be why Daddy Bush and Clinton appeared behind him (saying nothing) at that first weird press event of his on the hurricane. (They're not going to let Cheney do this? Cheney planning a a coup if he is indicted? Maybe my creative mind running a bit wild here--but that's sure what it feels like. Somethin' goin' on.)

(And where was Rove when Bush was eating birthday cake for the cameras, while a large chunk of the U.S. was getting wiped off the map, and thousands of citizens were dying? I am amazed that anybody let him do that--this most managed of all presidents. I mean, even for a medium disaster with a few hundred dead. Cake? It's mind-boggling--even given their level of callousness--until you think, maybe somebody's doing him in deliberately.)

[FreedomAngel82]

73. There is a lot of strange things going on that's for sure

I agree with you. Why would Karl Rove allow Bush to stay and play guitar and eat cake and go play golf etc? Bush is supposed to be a hero and all that. Remember: he's the 9/11 president all that. So why didn't Karl Rove jump on this opportunity to be a hero again and boost his raitings? It's very strange indeed and out of character. Maybe that's what is going on. I don't know. Maybe the "powers that be" of the government are trying to get rid of Bush because he's taking this country into a great depression. Which is why we have to take back the House and Senate next year and do impeachments and prove John Kerry won and get this country back on track.

[Mist]

78. I assumed KKKarl is off his usual game, due to nerves re: indictments nt

[DoYouEverWonder]

25. He can also be forced to resign

Nixon resigned, he was never impeached.

For the good of the country you know.

[B Calm]

27. If the american people could vote for a vote of no confidence

Bush would have been gone a long time ago!

[Webster Green]

35. Bingo!......He's a fucking threat to National Security!...

He really is.


Demand resignations! Now!

[Imagevision]

40. BUSH SHOULD HANG IT UP, HE'S NO LEADER...!

MAYBE LESS PEOPLE WILL DIE!

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[Peace Patriot]

70. The House had written up a Bill of Impeachment on Nixon, but it

never got to a vote. He resigned first.

[FreedomAngel82]

74. Yes

GOP officials I believe told him he should resign for the good of the party but they told the public for the good of the country. It's all about the PR with these people. Period. Bush though will go down kickin and screaming I think. Unless Poppy comes in and does something.

[autorank]

58. No, but he can be "resigned" and, be sure of this, serious people are

giving this thought already. This may be the final straw. Nixon was "resigned" because he was so unstable after re-election and he took the exit. This guy is worse and he was barely elected. Cheney needs to go first (Fitzgerald should be watched for an indictment of a close Cheney aid) then they put in a "Ford" and then * goes. That will be ugly but, YES HE CAN BE REMOVED. Just study Watergate.

[AbbyR]

63. In your dreams....

and mine. I just don't have that much confidence in the American people and our representatives. I hope I'm wrong.

[scarletwoman]

65. Nixon resigned in order to avoid impeachment.

The impeachment proceedings were all set to go, therefore his only way to avoid going through that was to resign.

Believe me -- as someone who lived through that period -- if Nixon had not been facing impeachment, he would have done everything he could to ride out the scandal and hold on to the presidency.

Impeachment is the ONLY way we could get rid of bush -- short of a full out national rebellion. And we know there are far too many kool-aid drinkers in this country for that to happen.

sw

[mogster]

76. Good post

Bush has exposed himself, and has lost support from the (barely) rational republicans now seeing this maybe is leading towards a more serious level, which includes consequences for themselves.
Besides, the dems have grown much stronger during the last year, and are more focused.

Soon we'll see the brokers in London putting up the odds on how long Bush will survive, I'll bet ;-)

[mountainvue]

17. He looks so tired. I hope he is taking care of himself.

[linazelle]

29. Hanging out with lowlifes like the Bushes will do that to you. I noticed

that as well and also hope he is OK.

[journalist3072]

48. I was thinking the same...

I thought it was just me. When I saw him today, I didn't like the way he looked at all. The heart surgery has really aged him. I think September 6 or 8 is the one year anniversary of his surgery. But he still looks really frail.

[librarycard]

62. His wife was the first to criticize Bush over Katrina

If Bush takes over the LA NG, I see frightening prospects if he expands that state power elsewhere.

[zippy890]

33. Yes he does look tired

I hope he gets some rest

[Tomee450]

72. I thought so too.

He really needs to take a long vacation. Jesse Jackson also looked very tired today.

[earth mom]

22. BS! Taking the heat of * & putting the blame on Nagin and Blanco!

Everyone should be able to see that! God damn it! :grr: :grr: :grr:

[B Calm]

24. One thing Clinton was good at, was slapping the the face of the

right wing spin machine. He took the heat off the governor and mayor and placed it on the federal government where it belonged.

[Lecky]

39. Are you misinterpreting Clinton on purpose?

I don't get it...

[MisterP]

26. hey, didn't the loyalists say that now "wasn't the time"

or is he just "keeping his tinder dry," like that allows him to speak up

[incapsulated]

34. I heard Clinton say that *himself*, just today

"Now is not the time..." in his press conference with Bush.

[DoYouEverWonder]

47. People are still trapped in houses dying

the immediate focus is getting this huge disaster relief mission going. It's already a week past due.

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. MSNBC just did a report on Brownie's lack of qualifications

They laid it all out. Said his biggest job was a horsey judge :evilgrin: and said people from the IAHA couldn't believe that he was put in charge of FEMA. Report mentioned he resigne under pressure and then they showed a clip of Jr. praising brownie saying he was doing a great job. :rofl: Oh and newspaper in LA called for his immediate resignation! :bounce:

[PA Democrat]

41. Clinton also slapped the Rebubs again saying this was no time to be

repealing the estate (AKA "death") tax.

[Imagevision]

42. FINALLY, CLINTON SAYS SOMETHING WORTHWHILE

[Lecky]

49. ...and some people at DU are still unsatisfied

I really think those types of people will not be happy until they see some prominent Democrat go up to GWB and punch him in the face.

[Mythsaje]

55. Gotta admit...

I'd love to see it.

Teddy Roosevelt would probably have done something remarkably like that about this point in time. Same with someone like Lincoln.

Some people just need a sound thrashing.

[Wizard777]

43. Hey ! No Chit, Dick Tracey. n/t either

[magnolia]

46. For those who didn't see the press conference:

Daddy Bush went on and on about how little Georgie is doing such a terrific job and why is everybody being so mean to him. He said that if you say anything against him to Babs, you better be wearing your flack jacket. (This got a big laugh from the press.) He acted like it was all so unfair, but it just goes with the territory of being president. I really think he expected Clinton to agree with him...but our man does have balls. Clinton said "I have a different take on this." He went on to say that this was all going to have to be investigated but for now there are still dead bodies to be dealt with.

[Olney Blue]

50. Clinton and HWB were visiting evacuees today.....

it struck me that people were swarming around Clinton, but not Poppy.

[Pepperbelly]

52. More Clinton haters show up ...

On edit: not directed to the OP but to the haters that showed up on the thjread. RW

Why don't you people now insist that we impeach Bush, fillibuster every nomination, curse Bush at press conferences, give the MSM the finger and then when it doesn't happen, threaten to vote Green.

:eyes:

I am sick to death of these far lefties. It is as though you are on the other side sometimes.

[Peace Patriot]

80. Hey, Pepperbelly, you need us. We're the ones who know, for instance,

that two Bushite companies, Diebold and ES&S, counted 80% of the votes in the last election, using SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code, and we now know why the Democrats would permit this...well, INSANE election system, controlled by Bush partisans, and so non-transparent and unverifiable and all. Mostly, it's bipartisan corruption of state/local election officials in the $4 billion electronic voting system boondoggle (and, also, Democratic leaders who support the Bush Cartel's war not caring who is counting our votes behind closed doors).

So, if you're wondering how we can have such an idiot as president--not to mention mass murderer and political extremist, and congenital liar--you may need to come to us for some basic information.

I apologize for being so condescending. Maybe you know that our election system was a fraud going in. It's just that it seems to me that leftists are generally the only people who know anything worth knowing. How can we repair our democracy if we don't know the most basic facts--of the kind that leftists tend to investigate--such as Bushites controlling the tabulation of our votes, and Democrats being SILENT on that mind-boggling fact?

How do we go about doing what we MUST DO--getting rid of these electronic voting machines (into 'Boston Harbor,' I say!), if we don't know that we will face obstruction by corrupt Democrats?

I don't know, do you think it's LEFTIST to know the truth, to speak the truth? How can we have a democracy without the truth being spoken?

As for Clinton, who is it but leftists who READ the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) that Clinton signed into law WITHOUT labor or environmental protections (which he'd promised in his first election campaign)--a 5,000 page, fine print document? Yup, it's Clinton we have to thank for the outsourcing of millions of jobs. Clinton. Not Bush.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for Clinton. In fact, I did--twice! I thought he was a huge improvement in foreign policy after Reagan and Bush I. Also, I had no choice. And that is definitely a problem. I would like to have voted for improved foreign policy AND for the protection of workers' rights and the environment. Not possible. And I might even vote for a War Democrat--which I'm sure will be our only choice in '08--if I think it will give us help with reforming the election system. I think that should be our first priority--transparent elections. I will never give up on voting. Never! No matter how rigged I think it is. But I'm NOT HAPPY with the SURE KNOWLEDGE that the nomination of a true antiwar populist WILL NOT BE PERMITTED within the Democratic Party. WILL NOT BE PERMITTED. And I am NOT HAPPY knowing that the great majority of Americans opposed the Iraq war since BEFORE the invasion (58% opposed, Feb. '03, across the board in all polls), and NO CANDIDATE reflected that MAJORITY OPINION.

And you wonder why people threaten to vote Green? Millions of jobs outsourced. A war that nobody wanted bloodily shoved down our throats by both Bushites and Dems.

You're "sick to death of these far lefties," which means? --you LIKE millions of jobs outsourced? --you LIKE illegal, unjust war? --you like war profiteers and global corporate predators running our country, and destroying our world? --that makes you feel well? Far lefties make you sick, and joblessness and war make you feel well?

I think you need to consider your priorities of what is sick and what is well. MOST far lefties voted for Kerry last time--swallowed their hatred of this war, swallowed his failure to speak out about torture, swallowed his failure to say anything much of substance--and voted for him, because he's a decent, intelligent guy, and in order to oust the Bush fascists, only to see their votes stolen or flipped or disappeared, like everybody else, and set about finding out WHY.

Have you done the same? Or do you trust Diebold and ES&S (major Bush supporters; far rightwng billionaires) to count all our votes with "trade secret" software and to come up with anything except Bush wins?

[tuvor]

54. I heard him say "natural person"...

...or possibly "national".

Just in the interests of accuracy. I don't think it takes away from the main point.

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/clintonnonationalpersonincharge.wmv

[Generic Other]

57. I stand corrected: I thought that's what I heard at first too

but it didn't make sense. "Natural" person? One whose job it is? Or "national" person? The person at the national level who is in charge? Or "actual" person as in some one specific person in charge? Where the buck stops.

Anyway I spin the bottle, it points at Bush.

:shrug:

[BlueJac]

60. I like Bill.....

but the company he is keeping SUCKS!!

[Blue_In_AK]

64. It's all in the eyes...

Looking at the faces of Bill and George Sr. today as they were talking to hurricane victims, the difference in their level of compassion couldn't have been more striking. I get mad at Bill sometimes, but I sure do miss him.

[tinrobot]

66. The eyes of a compassionate human

Despite his flaws, Clinton does truly care about the welfare of people. You can see it in his eyes and hear it in his voice.

Contrast that to the dead, beady eyes of his successor... they are the eyes of a shark.

[leftyleftist]

79. Yup tinrobot

Absolutely right...

[McCamy Taylor]

68. He only said what everyone is thinking...

[wildeyed]

75. I miss him.

A president who knows the difference between a terrorist attack and a hurricane. Who is worried that there might be long term economic problems as a result of this disaster and is interested in heading them off. Competence. Compassion. The list goes on and on.