Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

A few words from the Bible for Bush and his fundamentalist friends...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:43 PM
Original message
A few words from the Bible for Bush and his fundamentalist friends...
From Deuteronomy, Ch. 15:

"7. "If there is a poor man with you, one of your brothers, in any of your towns in your land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand from your poor brother;
8. but you shall freely open your hand to him, and shall generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.
9. "Beware that there is no base thought in your heart, saying, `The seventh year, the year of remission, is near,' and your eye is hostile toward your poor brother, and you give him nothing; then he may cry to the LORD against you, and it will be a sin in you.
10. "You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings.
11. "For the poor will never cease to be in the land; therefore I command you, saying, `You shall freely open your hand to your brother, to your needy and poor in your land.'
12. "If your kinsman, a Hebrew man or woman, is sold to you, then he shall serve you six years, but in the seventh year you shall set him free.
13. "When you set him free, you shall not send him away empty-handed.
14. "You shall furnish him liberally from your flock and from your threshing floor and from your wine vat; you shall give to him as the LORD your God has blessed you.
15. "You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God redeemed you; therefore I command you this today."

So, let's stop with the tax cuts for the rich and benefit and aid cuts for the poor. The Bible does not say "God helps those who help themselves". Rather, it commands us to help those in need. God reminds us that there will always be poor people. It does not say that "all those people wouldn't be poor if they would get a job, have no pity on them". The Bible says that we should have pity and charity whether these people "deserve" it or not. We all deserve it. Those who are blessed with plenty should not keep the blessings for themselves, but rather show their thanks by sharing their blessings with those who are less fortunate.

That's my sermon this Labor Day. Thanks for attending :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:44 PM
Response to Original message
1. Good sermon! *wave*
------------------------------------------------------
Save the Gulf, then save the nation!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:45 PM
Response to Original message
2. Amin!
and Amen.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:46 PM
Response to Original message
3. Amen
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:47 PM
Response to Original message
4. Amen
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Katidid Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:57 PM
Response to Original message
5. Ah men
Thanks for the sermon, RockyMD
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:16 PM
Response to Original message
6. Hey! Somebody recommended me for the greatest page!
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 05:17 PM by rockymountaindem
That's never happened to me before! Thanks :toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
7. Isn't there something in the New Testament that has Jesus saying
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 05:20 PM by amandabeech
"What you do to the least among you, you do unto me?"

I wish that I could give the citation, but my Bible is at my Mom's a thousand miles away, and it's been too long since I was in Methodist Sunday School.

Those words, or ones like them, really stuck with me even though organized Christianity didn't.


On Edit: But then, * and his fundie friends aren't really into the New Testament. Too much love and not enough smiting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Yes, there is.
That verse is frequently cited here on DU. If you want to look for it, you can search on bible.com like I did for my post. I've never used that site before but it seemed pretty good from the few minutes I spent there.

I knew exactly what I was looking for because this is the part of the Torah we read in synagogue this week on the yearly rotation. We're getting to the end now (Deuteronomy) because the new year is only a month away.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. It appears in Jesus' own description
of the Last Judgement, in Matthew 25: 31-46, the only description of it in the whole of scripture. It is very beautiful in my view.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:34 PM
Response to Original message
9. I think this is redacted from the Authorized Fundivangelical Version (AFV)
The AFV ignore this. The verses that really matter are the ones that allegedly condemn gays, and that contain a wrathful deity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftyleftist Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:30 PM
Response to Original message
11. Yes and thanks for posting this
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:35 PM
Response to Original message
12. I realized long ago that these people are not about Christ nor
religion even if they hang crosses around their neck and slap fish symbols on their cars. They are about HATE. In so many of the churches it's a place to go to segreate oneself from the minorities. It's a place to confirm you are superior and they deserve to be dead. It's a place to worship greed (God is blessing us 'cause we are goooood). Their time is coming and they are going to receive it at the hands of the same butchers who brought us the "let 'em drown" killing fields of New Orleans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. They've used Jesus to establish and maintain their following
They are the lowest form of scum. I'd vote for a flatworm before I voted for a Bushit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:02 PM
Response to Original message
13. Kick for the nite crowd.
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:10 PM
Response to Original message
15. "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers
for thereby some have entertained angels unawares" Hebrews 13-2
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. Oooooohhhh- good one.
Thanks for posting that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 08:48 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC