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dogindia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:36 PM
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nbc just said NO mayor said military can force people to leave.
That is not what was said yesterday.

Seems like people should be able to stay if they can cope with water and find food.

Is there anyway to reach him?

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:37 PM
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1. They should go. It is a toxic dump down there.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:39 PM
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2. Yes I agree...
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:40 PM
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3. It is not safe.
The health ramifications are very significant in NO because of what the flood "water" has become.

I am unconvinced that these citizens have all the information they need to make an informed decision about whether to stay. Do they realize that the NG will not be making food/water drops to them, and that this situation could last indefinitely?

Do they realize the extent of the damage to the city? Do they know that all people have been taken out? Do they realize that there is currently NO PLAN to restore electricity/remove water/sanitize the streets? They don't have electricity, news, etc.

But I can totally understand why they'd feel safer in their own homes.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:41 PM
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4. They were actually giving them water, but they want everyone to leave
so once they are sure that the weak ones are all dead, they will "forcibly remove" the rest, kill all the stray animals, spray "god-knows-what" all over the standing water, and then send in hazmat teams to destroy anything that's not "worth saving"..Once the place is dried out and "ready", the condo-builders & hotel builders and money-people will cast lots for the eminent-domain claimed land..

What will emerge is a bright red (blood red) New orleans a la Stepford meets Disney..

The evacuees will be permanently barred from return due to the lack of funds..
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:55 PM
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11. Bingo. JazzWorldAmerika.
Prepare for the Louis Armstrong Memorial Theme Park, Hotel and Casino.

Brought to you by Kellogg, Brown and Root.

Tony restaurants, posh hotels, Las Vegas-style.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:41 PM
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5. It is called martial law, which NO is now under.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:47 PM
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6. these people aren't leaving...
http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/

Monday, September 5th, 2005
1:58 pm Attention
I want to make sure that everyone knows I am part of a team. I am not in this myself. I seem to be getting most of the attention for the success we've had here, but I don't think that's really fair to the other guys. I think because I'm the one keeping the blog people are getting the wrong impression. Here are the people who are up here and what their responsibilities are:

Sigmund Solares, CEO: Sigmund is one of the owners of Directnic. He is on site because Team SOTI needs a guy on the spot who can make command level decisions during an emergency.

Donny Simonton, Senior Vice President: Donny is Directnic's crisis tech guy. He's responsible for all of our servers and data transfers.

Brian Acosta, I-55.com: Brian is I-55's man on the spot and their chief tech guy. He's also the guy who makes sure we keep connectivity to the internet.

Crystal Coleman, Chef: Crystal is here with me and makes herself useful in a myriad of ways, mostly by keeping us well fed.

Michael Barnett, Crisis Manager: My responsibilities are physical security, creating standard operating procedures, implementing field sanitation and hygiene, and ensuring coordination of the team.

I want to make sure that especially the media are aware of this. Sig and Donny are as equally qualified as I am to answer questions and conduct interviews
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:51 PM
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9. Who or what are those people guarding?
Is it a DNS server or something? They've been running generators all week to keep some server(s) running that are apparently very important.

Do u know? Just curious...
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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:48 PM
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7. they need to get out....
them staying will make the cleanup more difficult.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:48 PM
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8. At this point it should be up to the individual
whether or not they want to stay or go.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:53 PM
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10. they got to go...
because of disease and a toxic environment. Someone needs to pass along enough information of what is going on around them to bring them up to speed. Lack of information is a bitch.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:58 PM
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12. I'm waiting for open warfare in Jefferson Parish...
They've invited people back in to get some personal effects...

So, they've got FEMA and the military forcing people out, and they've got Jefferson Parish officials saying 'come back for a few days'. Think any 'incidents' might occur? Especially after Aaron Broussard accused FEMA of cutting communication lines on Tim Russert's show?

God, I hope I'm wrong...
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:59 PM
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13. While it would be in their best interests to leave, I understand
completely why they are refusing to leave. For many, that is the only spot on earth they have, where they feel safe. For some, it may be the culmination of what they've worked for their whole lives.

Many of these people have worked hard and led very difficult lives. The government has done nothing for them before, and they don't expect the government to do anything but hurt them now. They are a proud people and don't trust the government (why the hell should they?).

While I think it would be safer for them to leave, I understand them wanting to stay, and support that choice. Leave them alone!
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:13 PM
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14. I'm thinking there is possibly another hurricane on the way..
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:15 PM
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15. Absolutely! Everybody out of the pool!
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 06:18 PM by Wizard777
Somebody took a big toxic waste dump in there. :hurts:
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:33 PM
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16. BBC World News earlier this evening
said there were 60,000 military in NO. That's a bit less than half the US troop strength in Iraq. Assuming the troops are decently equipped (a bit of a stretch if Iraq is any indication), they'd certainly have the run of the place.
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