Dem Leadership Is Worthless!

[cynatnite]

It's been a fucking week! Today they come up with a plan. Sounded good, covered all their bases and had the appearance of being more well thoughtout then the repukes version...well, lack of one.

Meanwhile, FEMA (Fucked-up Emergency Managment Assholes)is in the Gulf Coast fucking up, but they are there. No apologies here. They're doing their damndest to make sure they look like the idiots they are with their 'chickens with their heads' cut off' ways.

The last week, while bush has vacationed, photo-op'd, and shifted blame to the locals and state, where has the dem leadership been?

Yesterday, Hillary came out and said we need a Katrina Commission. Like the last 'commission' did a damn bit of good :eyes:

So here we are, a week later, thousands dead, and TODAY the dems come out with a plan. TODAY?? Give me a fucking break! Where in the hell were they when people were begging, crying and dying for help??

Why didn't one of them come out and get pissed?? The media finally got pissed THREE days after they should have. We were all here getting pissed, cussing, emailing and phoning like crazy to get some help to these people.

At least the fucking media got pissed. The repukes won't get pissed. It wasn't their base that was dying.

The Dem leadership dropped the ball. Talk about how the repukes will pay for this in '06 or '08 all you want. They probably will lose some elections over it.

But, goddamn it, the Dems should have been on TV DAYS ago sounding the horn and making demands on the fuckers currently in power.

Why should the Dem leadership have any power if they are going to do nothing but sit on their fucking hands with their mouths shut???

Yeah, I'm pissed as hell. :grr: People died while politicians did NOTHING!

[valerief]

1. ALL CONGRESS IS PLAYING POLITICS

While ten thousand died from starvation and entrapment.

[Arugula Latte]

2. Good rant!

I agree. I will give the Democratic leadership a few more days. If they do not start to speak out, and speak out forcefully and without being wishy-washy and namby-pamby as usual, then I will realize there really is only one party in this country.

[babylonsister]

13. Great idea. Now you can start supporting the blivet. nt

[Teaser]

3. Did you read the Democratic Katrina Plan

Please do.

link

KATRINA RELIEF PLAN FOR SENATE ACTION THIS WEEK

Although the Congress last week appropriated $10.5 billion for the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Defense Department, it is clear much more will be needed given the enormity of this disaster. While government authorities and others assess the scope of the problem and decide how much additional funding will be needed to address specific problems, there are a number of legislative items the Senate can and should promptly approve that can help Katrina's victims. After the Senate has completed action on this emergency legislation, we hope the Senate will quickly provide significant new funding, and consider other substantive proposals that could help address short- and medium-term needs. These proposals must be followed by a much broader, long-term effort to rebuild and rehabilitate the Gulf Coast region and substantially improve efforts to prevent, mitigate and respond to future disasters.

The following are just some examples of proposals that Senate Democrats believe deserve immediate Senate action this week:

Ensuring health care for all displaced victims

* Immediate access to Medicaid for displaced victims.
* No need to prove residency or assets
* No copayments
* No penalties for failing to sign up for Medicare Part B in time.

[cynatnite]

8. Of course I read it...but come on...a WEEK?????

What good is this thing? Why did it take so long for them to do something????

Ain't buying it. It's a show...pretense.

I've sat for too long waiting and hoping they'd get off their collective asses. I've emailed and phoned. I've signed petitions. I've talked to people to get them to see the truth.

But if the dem leadership don't do a damn thing when we've got a fucking corrupt and incompetent government, does that mean they should be in power?

What is stopping them from getting out there? What is stopping them from going on TV and pointing their fingers, holding up the proof to the American people?

They DON'T do it.

I'm to the point of changing my party affiliation over their sitting on their asses.

[Teaser]

11. You're entitled to your opinion.

but I think you're overly worked up myself. The Dem strategy is letting
George hang himself. It seems to be working.

[cynatnite]

18. No, it's not working

All people see is a silent do nothing democratic party. I can't count how many times that it's said, 'the dems won't say anything because bush and fellow repukes are hanging themselve'.

I've got a question. How much fucking rope have they got????

People are dead because of bush and his minions. Why in the fuck won't any big name dems come out and crucify any of them for it?

John Kerry? John Edwards?

I want a big name dem to come out and say they are crooks and liars. I want a big name dem to say people died. bush and cheney didn't protect ANYONE!

Why in the hell won't they say it??? Could it be they are too fucking scared???

[ChairmanAgnostic]

20. no, that does not WORK. not against Rovian plots

we know that the photo ops were make believe and staged, but they are working.
as the dem leadership continues to lose touch, the GOP is doing its talking points crap and regaining traction.
whereas we look foolish and without direction.
mainly because we have no direction.

Did I mention we have no direction or leadership? Leadership sirection? Direction good. Leadership better. Lead and direct, direct and lead. Lead. Leading, leaders lead!. Directly leading leaders.

damn, I sound like shrub now.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

48. Yeah it seemed like the strategy in Fall '04, kinda. Didn't work out so

good.

[KittyWampus]

19. Take Your Freaking Anger For Ineptitude & Aim It At The GOP

[DoYouEverWonder]

33. They are not the ruling party at the moment

It is up to the Federal Government to respond to National Emergencies. It is not what Congress is set up for, nor should it be.

On Monday, the Dems are walking in with a plan and we are going to start taking back our country. All the Repugs have are lies and hot air. Their day is done.

[Bobbieo]

45. The Demos Are NOT The Ruling Party

And that has to be changed in the '06 election.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

50. Is something going to be done about the electronic voting machines?....

...If not, 2006 will go the same direction as 2000, 2002, and 2004.

[blue sky at night]

9. Thanks

I needed to hear from some folks that have three main ingredients that make us HUMAN: A Heart, A Soul, An Idea!

[still_one]

4. the leadership is crap

but don't include russ feingold, dennis kucinish, wes clark, and others that did speak out, but the press didn't cover

[nookiemonster]

5. To all the DEMS in congress and the senate,

this is YOUR RECKONING!!!! WTF!

Something better happen soon on their behalf. No bullshit.

[BooScout]

6. Some did come out and get pissed...

I guess you missed John Lewis and the rest of the Black Caucus raising hell?

[Fridays Child]

7. National Crisis? Cue the self-destructing Democrats.

:eyes:

[applegrove]

10. Don't you get it? We want them to attack Bush but Bush is not in control.

Clinton, Gore, et all - they are all taking shots at Big Oil. Because that is really what this is about.

Why bother with Georgie? He has no idea what is going on. He has no power. They feed him what they need to - to make him do or not do stuff and he complies.

The Dems are very, very angry right now. So are the intellectuals. So are the journalists. Trust me. Big Oil are the proper target.

[cynatnite]

14. Big Oil isn't the one with 'POTUS' on their name plate

When I see angry on primetime, I'll believe it. When I see Howard Dean, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and a few others on TV letting assholes like Cheney, Bush and Rumsfeld have it, then I'll believe it.

Those are the big names that would make a difference. I loved it when Howard Dean spoke out about the repukes. We need that now, more than ever!

It's not you...I'm pissed at them for doing nothing. It's been eating me up the last three days and when I saw that at Raw Story, I got pissed as hell.

[libhill]

12. No shit -

and then the spineless fucks can't understand why they can't win elections any more.

[MadeinOhio]

15. They are out on vacation..

[babylonsister]

16. I disagree. Wait until everyone is rescued, then

start assigning blame. We are ALL pissed, but what were Dems to do? "Politicians did nothing" - agreed, the ones in power did nothing! Let not make the water murkier by adding Dems to the mix.

[brentspeak]

17. Of all the bad luck for the American people

Not only are we presently saddled with the worst president in American history, but we are forced to rely upon what might be the most forceless Democratic leadership in American history.

It's our duty as rank-and-file Democrats to make sure that the 2006 elections can bring power back to the Democrats -- which means bringing power back to the American people.

[howmad1]

32. OK, since this the most forceless democratic leadership

in American History, how do you propose we bring back power to these weak kneed specimens?

[MadeinOhio]

34. Easy=Replace them all, all of them with Howard Dean hitters..

[Crazy Guggenheim]

38. Bravo!

[brentspeak]

41. Getting a majority of Dems in Congress will give 'em more force

Even the wimpy ones will feel empowered.

As for bringing power back to them: work like a whirlwind for your local Democratic candidate's campaign.

[lancdem]

21. They're not in power

They don't control FEMA, the Dept. of Homeland Security and the WH.

[Southsideirish]

22. Cringing, cowardly cowards!

[Rex]

23. They don't know what to do!

Caught with their pants down, all of them! To busy making money and not caring for our best interests. Now they have a real emergency (a regional crisis) and they IGNORE it!

Has ANYONE seen Dick Cheney?

[ClassWarrior]

24. So when are you running for office?

You want to change things? Then put your money where your mouth is.

NGU.

[cynatnite]

26. red state TN won't vote for an angry white fat chick

I want the party I have supported with my money and time to do their jobs.

Since when is that too much to ask?

[ClassWarrior]

28. Nice excuse. Of course you haven't even tried. You just whine...

...about what OTHERS aren't doing.

Next!

NGU.

[cynatnite]

31. Oh, please

You just don't like the fact I spoke the truth!

We have to take our Dem leadership to task for the inactivity and inability. Why do you think we lose and have practically little to no support in the south?

[ClassWarrior]

43. Because we whine but don't do anything about it?

I love the fact you spoke the truth. I hate the fact that all you do is come here and whine.

NGU.

[cynatnite]

47. Really? Is that what other DUer's do as well when they complain?

Or maybe it's to help motivate, inform, vent, share and all other things that go on here at DU which brings us together?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

52. What are you doing about anything? All I've seen from you lately are....

...rants against the Democrats.

[cynatnite]

57. I've done four or five posts against the dems today

out of how I can't count how many posts. It's a slow weekend at home so I've had a lot of time to sit in front of my computer.

The ones I did were mostly a few lines.

It's not like I come here on a regularly trashing dems. You can look through all my posts if you'd like once the features are functional.

I am pissed at the Dem leadership. We've got a failure of leadership in the WH...that's not to mention how corrupt and incompetent they are. What makes it worse, we have practically none in the Democratic Party.

No big name democrats are saying what we all know. John Kerry, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton or any of the others are going out and saying those jerks in the WH are negligent. They aren't saying they are liars and crooks. They aren't saying the war is illegal and immoral. They aren't saying they fucked up.

Fact is: They aren't saying much of anything.

[welshTerrier2]

35. not sure this is valid ...

first, does the BP'er "just" whine? do we have any idea what else the BP'er does?

second, is it valid to argue that anyone who criticizes their government should either run for office or shut-up? most of us are not confident that we could succeed politically ... most of us are unknown and unfunded ... many of us don't have the personality to go before the public and live such a public life ... are these just excuses? perhaps so but they are often the very real beliefs of many people ... and the truth is, most can't afford to quit their jobs and run for office ...

it's not that there isn't merit to your call for those who are unhappy to do more ... but i just don't know that it's valid to expect those who criticize to run for office themselves ... nor should their refusal to do so diminish their right to be heard on the issues of the day ...

[ChairmanAgnostic]

25. SIMPLE RULE OF THUMB

Timing and photo ops.
Bush screwed the first one, but is recovering, and he did fine with the second.

Now apply Politics 101 to us, to our leaders.
Our timing consists of "Ooooh, let's let them hang themselves"; and, worse, "we don't do photo-ops."

Our response has been pathetic. What we need is someone with brass ones to grab 20 photos of bloated corpses, and with Brown and Chertoff's video behind them, just after they said, "We are doing great" and slowly show photo after photo to the camera. Are we doing that? HELL NO. Why not? Is that unfair?: is it too harsh? oh, too bloody bad. IT IS THE BLOODY BLOATED STINKING TRUTH. And the truth is precisely what we need.

We are more concerned about appearing nice. Well, our brothers and sisters have died and still are dying. THAT IS THE TRUTH, and it is not getting out.

WHERE THE HELL ARE WE? Except for the Black Caucus and Al Gore, we are MIA. Seeking a commission? how about seeking a commision to determine whether we need a commision?
Our leaders and elected officials have to have the slinky-est spines covered with the largest stripe of yellow ever imagined.

[still_one]

27. no offense, but where have you been the last six years?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

29. me?

cringing at the growing weakness of my party and the destruction of my country at the hands of the neocons.

I may be late, but I am here now.

[still_one]

37. no NOT to you, it was just a comment to the person who started the thread

was meant to point out that the democrats in congress have been mostly useless for the last six years

[cynatnite]

30. Not sure what that has to do with anything...

but I'll answer you.

I've been a good American raising my kids, being a wife, paying my bills, paying my taxes, and all the other normal boring things that most Americans do.

I started getting more active just about a year ago right before the last 'election'. I got fed up with the 'compassionate conservatism', RW fundies telling people how to live their lives, the fucking war and the rest of the neocon agenda.

I've been more active in the last year than I ever thought of. I volunteer, donate whatever I can, make phone calls, email, and make visits.

I went to Walmart three days ago to find out what they were doing and when I got told about the million bucks, I met with the lady in our local store who handles donations. I expressed my dismay at the poor response. Not sure how much good it did, but I doing something is better than sitting and doing nothing.

[still_one]

39. sorry, I was being a little scarcastic

I really did NOT mean to cause any friction, or even imply that I was accusing you of anything

I am sorry if it came out that way

Sometimes, I just throw out scarcastic remarks. Definitely was NOT meant to imply anything bad about you. Sorry

[cynatnite]

42. I saw your other post...that's okay

I have a tendency to get sarcastic when I'm pissed. Drives my family nuts sometimes.

It's all good.

I do feel better since I got to unload my frustrtions and I am glad that DU is here. Some will agree and some won't, which is great by me...those that don't will give me food for thought and I really appreciate that.

I do ask myself at times...what can I do? When I get frustrated or upset, I have to do something. That's when I'm the most active.

Thanks!

[cynatnite]

36. In the absense of leadership...

People will take whatever's put in front of them.

Isn't there a quote similar to that?

I do remember Thatcher saying 'Consensus is the absense of leadership'

[flaminbats]

59. and subjection is the absence of consensus

without a political party to represent our views, there shall never be a consensus on what the government should or shouldn't accomplish. Instead..all voters will only have the choice of obeying the government or resisting it.

[Name removed]

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[ksilvas]

44. We are no longer represented!

The Democratic party has left
progressives in the lurch, we are left
with no other recourse than to take matters
into the street with our feet , or guerilla
forms of social decent

[lonestarnot]

46. Class race war on!

[DefenseLawyer]

49. Apparently

the hurricane has emboldened the Green Party to attempt a hostile takeover of DU. I haven't seen this many "those Democrats suck" threads in a long time. Please, give us some "Ralph Nader is great" stuff too. Don't hold back.

[ksilvas]

51. Where was Ralph?

It's not about party, it's about a failure of
political and social organisation on all fronts.

[cynatnite]

53. Exactly

They have failed us in every way concievable. Our republic is no more. The people are not represented and our interests are ignored.

I'm sick of it all.

[ksilvas]

58. This is a wake up call

One that happens every 50 years or so,
a naked slap in the face.
We are peasents.
Are taxes are squandered, are children are used,
and we take it, for the myth of a democratic republic.
But,
Is there a plan. An alternative?
Or shall we continue to roll in the sewage of
a corrupt system.

[ClassWarrior]

54. At least they want you to think they're "Greens."

NGU.

[SaveElmer]

55. It;s the traditional circular firing squad...

Democrats are famous for it!

[ClassWarrior]

56. At least they want you to think it's a "circular firing squad."

NGU.

[bloom]

60. It's just Democrats who actually expect something from their politicians.

They must just sound Green to you - if you're not used to it.

[ClassWarrior]

61. Oh that's a brilliant strategy...

You expect something from your politicians... So rather than taking it up with the aforementioned politicians, you post divisive crap on a public message board undermining those politicians even further!!

Wow, why didn't I think of that?? :sarcasm:

NGU.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

62. I have and they don't listen! Your attitude is exactly what I'm

talking about!

[ClassWarrior]

63. What attitude? That it's better to do something that MIGHT work...

...than to do something DEFINITELY futile and self-destructive?

Talk about crazy.

NGU.