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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:46 AM
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Israeli divers volunteer to recover bodies
"It what appears almost like science fiction, Israeli volunteer divers are heading to New Orleans to help look for bodies in flooded homes.

The divers are expected to sift through the murky waters with powerful underwater flashlights. US officials believe there may be hundreds or even thousands of dead bodies still trapped in houses. There is fear that the remains will also be found in the streets as the waters recede.

They are part of a private delegation of Israeli volunteers who have extensive experience in rescues and complex emergencies garnered from work around the world.

The delegation is being coordinated by IsraAID (the Israel Forum for International Aid), a non-governmental group funded by donations mainly from American Jews. Gal Lousky, the head of the delegation, said it expects to depart Tuesday and has all the permits necessary."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1125886820081

The offers are pouring in from around the world. What horrible jobs these people face.
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Tyranny_R_US Donating Member (988 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:46 AM
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1. God bless them!
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 01:49 AM by Tyranny_R_US
:salute:

Edit: errr :patriot:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:48 AM
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2. Ewwwwwww.
Bad source.

But good of them to volunteer!

I do not envy them the task, but I thank all who are willing to help.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:06 AM
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11. As a diver, that's sure not a job I'd want to do.
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 02:07 AM by TahitiNut
:puke: I mean, I do know how to clear vomit from my regulator ... but I sure don't want to do it, especially more than once.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:50 AM
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3. Why aren't WE doing this? I don't get it nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:51 AM
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:51 AM
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6. In the parlance of Emergency Service
this is a CAT 4 disaster, we as a nation lack the resources. Don't worry I epxlained this to folks IN GOVERNMENT last week.

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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:03 AM
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24. So help me understand.....
What should have happenned here? (in a perfect world)
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:52 AM
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8. I think we are.
I am not sure, but I thought I read that the US is also using special divers. The ones coming from Israel are specially trained for these type of conditions and have done this, sadly, several times before.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:15 AM
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18. Get it here
Volunteer

We will have 500 families from New Orleans arriving this week. We need to feed them, clothe them, get them (semi-) permanent housing, get them job, get their kids in chool.

Posting on fora isn't enough.

WE are doing it -- and you can help

Click here ->
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:00 AM
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9. Our divers must have been sent to Iraq, too. I find it quite amazing
that it takes news reporters and anchors to for example, say "why don't they bring in food and water with the choppers". Next day, we see food and water being dumped from choppers.
My brain is overloaded now, but there were other such examples...I noticed.
Maybe, now it will "occur" to FEMA, that they had such plans after all, it just takes time to bring them in perhaps?

They just don't want to mingle with the snakes and crocs and possible germs in the water.


:sarcasm:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:06 AM
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10. I don't care if Captain Nemo volunteers. Everyone who can help
and allay some family's mind about where the body of a loved on is, they are welcome. Thank you, Israeli divers. God bless and save you in the awful days ahead.
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 07:43 AM
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14. Agree. Well said.
We should take help from all who offer. Especially our allies.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:12 AM
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12. The EPA has divers trained in use of the special gear required for this
sort of diving. So does the military. So do many large (and some not-so-large) US police departments, including New York and Miami. I guess it's just not a time-priority and they'll just wait to see who's there when all the water drains down the plughole...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:18 AM
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13. We don't have enough divers
wrap your head around this number, 10,000 body recoveries as an extremely conservative number.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 07:47 AM
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15. Not all 10,000 bodies are underwater anymore
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 07:47 AM by DoYouEverWonder
and I bet with Honore running the show, the water will down a lot faster then 8 weeks. It's already gone in some places.

BTW: What do you think of Gen Honore? I get the feeling he's one of the good guys? I much rather have the NG in control instead of HS?FEMA, that's for sure.

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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:10 AM
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17. I'm still not sure that
is a "Conservative" number, let alone "extremely conservative."
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:54 AM
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20. Gee thanks
I was the Coast Guard acting diving officer in charge of the body recovery detail after the charter plane crash in Lake Ponchartrain on January 1, 1968.

We could use your help--

Click here:

or here

Your interest in volunteering to go in harms way for your fellow man is appreciated.

Coastie
Lieutenant, United States Coast Guard (Honorably Discharged)
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:01 AM
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23. Wow...What memories this must be stirring up for you. Are you still in
LA?
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:24 AM
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25. Went there for vacations after I got out of the CG
Love the place - a lot of wonderful memories (also a lot of not so wonderful memories about some of the kids injured/killed in water skiing accidents - Coast Guard worked with local medical examiner and sheriff on those cases).

I will be working at a shelter here in CA for New Orleanians who are now "Californians by Act of God."

The SF Bay Area has a unique quirkiness like NOLA had - just a uniquely different quirkiness.

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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 07:51 AM
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16. not fun. that water is dangerous
GMA took water samples in NO. The scientist said there were toxic levels of sewage and a lot of human waste in there. The water glowed brightly under a black light. The doctor is highly concerned about the long term effects this contamination will have on the kids. :(

If the Isreali divers go in, may they all be safe.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:15 AM
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19. I'm glad, we can use the help.
Definitely not a job I'd want and these guys volunteer for this.

I'm revolted by some of the responses this thread.

I'm sure you knew you;d get that, thanks for posting this anyway.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:56 AM
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21. Thanks, mods. eom
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:45 AM
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26. Wow...you worked your magic, BMUS.
:hi:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:02 AM
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27. Me?
I'm like the kiss of death!
:evilgrin:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:57 AM
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22. Now, how is Bush is going to reject their offer to help?
God bless them.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:55 PM
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28. Let's hope not!!!
We are not in the position to turn down any help! We all seem to know that...why hasn't that idiot in the WH figured this out?
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