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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 07:53 AM
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Washing Away the Conservative Movement (aftermath of Katrina)
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 07:56 AM by WilliamPitt
“The responsibility of ministers for the public safety is absolute, and requires no mandate. It is in fact prime object for which governments come into existence.”

- Winston Churchill


Somewhere, at this moment, a neoconservative is seething.

It isn’t fair, he rages within. We had it wired. The House is ours, the Senate is ours, the Supreme Court is ours, the Justice Department is ours, the television news media is bought and paid for. We could act with impunity, say whatever we needed to say to get what we want, do whatever wanted, and no one could touch us. We could refashion the nation as we see fit, whether people wanted to come along with us or not, because we know better.

We followed Leo Strauss’ edicts to the letter, growls the seething neoconservative. Strauss, our neoconservative godfather, told us that this nation is best run by an elite that does not have to bother with the will or desires of the populace. Strauss told us we didn’t even have to bother with the truth while pursuing our agenda. We are the elite, and we know best.

Somewhere, at this moment, a neoconservative is seething because his entire belief structure regarding government has been laid waste by a storm of singular ferocity. Hurricane Katrina has destroyed lives, ravaged a city, damaged our all-important petroleum infrastructure, and left every American with scenes of chaos and horror seared forever into their minds. Simultaneously, Hurricane Katrina has annihilated the fundamental underpinnings of conservative governmental philosophy.

What we are seeing in New Orleans is the end result of what can be best described as extended Reaganomics. Small government, budget cuts across the board, tax cuts meant to financially strangle the ability for federal agencies to function, the diversion of billions of what is left in the budget into military spending: This has been the aim and desire of the conservative movement for decades now, and they have been largely successful in their efforts.

Combine this with a wildly expensive and unnecessary war, rampant cronyism that replaces professionals with unqualified hacks at nearly every level of government, and the basic neoconservative/Straussian premise that the truth is not important and that the so-called elite know best, and you have this catastrophe laid out on a platter. The conservative and neoconservative plan for the way this country should be run has been blasted to matchsticks, their choice of priorities exposed as lacking to say the very least.

The Katrina disaster in a nutshell: A storm that had been listed for years as #3 on America’s list of “Worst Possible Things That Could Happen” arrives in New Orleans to find levees unprepared because massive budget cuts stripped away any ability to repair and augment them. The storm finds FEMA, the national agency tasked to deal with the aftermath of natural disasters, run by Bush friend Michael Brown, a guy who got fired from his last job representing the rights of Arabian horse owners. The storm finds a goodly chunk of the Louisiana National Guard sitting in a desert 7,000 miles away with their high-water Humvees parked beside them. The storm finds that our institutional decades-old unwillingness to address poverty issues left tens of thousands of people unable to get out of the way of the ram.

Grover Norquist, one of the ideological leaders of our current administration, once said he wanted to shrink the federal government until it was small enough to be drowned in a bathtub. Well, those who believe in his view of things have worked very hard to accomplish this, and we see now what happens when you do that. In this case, the government did not drown. An American city did.

Early estimates of the costs to repair the damage to New Orleans are rolling above $100 billion. The invasion and occupation of Iraq has cost many times more than that. The gigantic tax cuts of a few years ago further denuded the federal budget. Conservative and neoconservative dogma required this, and has left us singularly vulnerable. They have always wanted a weakened federal government, and now we have one, and a lot of people are dead because of it. The cost of this storm, plus the cost of the tax cuts, plus the cost of the Iraq war, plus the long-term damage to our economy caused by high gasoline prices, is going to kick the guts out of our government for a very long time to come.

In so many ultimately dangerous ways, their exposure is complete. For the last four years, we have been inundated with the claim that only Bush and the neocons can protect us from terrorism. The justification and shield for every action taken, no matter how absurd, has been that it is for our own good and defense. That’s all dust now. “This is the Law and Order and Terror government,” writes MSNBC newsman Keith Olbermann in his blog. “It promised protection - or at least amelioration - against all threats: conventional, radiological, or biological. It has just proved that it cannot save its citizens from a biological weapon called standing water.”

Above and beyond the fact that the levees have broken all around the governmental philosophies of the conservative/neoconservative crew is the question of whether this could have been avoided with a little bit of personal responsibility. There is a lot of finger-pointing going on at the highest levels right now; at one point over the weekend, Bush defenders absurdly attempted to blame the Mayor of New Orleans for what happened. One boggles when trying to determine how the mayor of one city bears the responsibility for the damage and lack of rescue response that took place in Mississippi, Alabama and outside the realm of his parishes. This was a nicely Straussian twist on the truth, straight out of the playbook.

Could it have been avoided? Let’s ask the National Weather Service, which sent out this alert on Sunday, August 28th: “A hurricane warning is in effect for the north central gulf coast from Morgan City Louisiana eastward to the Alabama/Florida border, including the city of New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain. Maximum sustained winds are near 160 mph with higher gusts. Katrina is a large hurricane. Coastal storm surge flooding of 18 to 22 feet above normal tide levels, locally as high as 28 feet, along with large and dangerous battering waves, can be expected near and to the east of where the center makes landfall. Some levees in the greater New Orleans area could be overtopped.”

“Some levees in the greater New Orleans area could be overtopped.” That was Sunday. Monday passed, and then Tuesday, and then Wednesday, and then Thursday, and then Friday, and then the weekend came, before any action of any significance whatsoever was taken to protect the lives of the citizens of that city.

Also on Sunday the 28th, Governor Blanco of Louisiana dispatched a letter to Bush formally requesting help for the horror she saw rolling towards her state over the southern horizon. “Under the provisions of Section 401 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFR §§ 206.36, I request that you declare an expedited major disaster for the state of Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina, a Category V hurricane approaches our coast south of New Orleans; beginning on August 28, 2005 and continuing,” read the letter. She went on in great detail over four full pages to list a series of requests that, had they been granted, would have spared thousands of people from death.

She was flatly ignored. Forget the fact that a hurricane hitting New Orleans has been on the danger list for decades. The Bush folks got the word on Sunday, not once but twice, and instead of swinging into action, they literally ate cake.

Have they learned anything from this? Hardly. The most important bit on this week’s conservative agenda, beyond stuffing Mr. Roberts into the Chief Justice chair, is to repeal the estate tax. Yes, that’s correct, before we do anything else, we have to make sure the rich of this nation get an even larger slice of the pie. This caused DNC Chairman Howard Dean to launch a singularly pointed salvo over the weekend.

“Countless thousands of our fellow Americans throughout the Gulf Coast region continue to suffer in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina,” said Dean. “While some have begun the painful task of rebuilding their lives and coping with the unfathomable loss, so many still await help. And the cost of this disaster in human and material terms remains unknown. It's simply irresponsible for Senator Frist and Ken Mehlman to even think about spending our tax dollars on breaks for millionaires at a time when our top priority must be to ensure we have the resources needed to address the long and short term costs associated with rescue, recovery, and rebuilding in the wake of hurricane Katrina. Not to mention the vital lesson we learned this week about the deadly cost of diverting funds at the expense of the safety of the American people. These costs, continued Dean, “also come at a time when our nation faces a massive deficit, and mounting costs in the ongoing war in Iraq.”

It isn’t irresponsible, Chairman. It’s standard operating procedure. They’ve been doing it like this for so long that they’ve forgotten how to do it any other way. They are such true believers that they cannot fathom doing it any other way. Likely, they will get away with it, and the loss of estate tax revenues will further damage our nation’s ability to care for its own.

Oh yeah, by the way, Halliburton got the contract to rebuild New Orleans. Convenient, that.

The house of cards has fallen in. A generation of conservative thinking, combined with five years of neoconservative thrashing, has finally come to an unavoidable head. The agencies tasked to protect us – FEMA and the Department of Homeland Security to name two – have been proven to be utterly useless. The heads of these agencies – Chertoff and Brown – are the perfect avatars of Bush’s way of doing business, insofar as they have no business being in the positions they are in. The conservative movement has failed spherically, from all sides and in all directions.

So here’s a thought: Let’s repudiate these fools. When the basic software for the operating system of a computer is proven to be riddled with bugs and bad code, it is time to rewrite the whole thing. We have to do that here, with our government and institutions, and we have to do it now. Throw conservative dogma into the dustbin of history where it belongs.

Remember that a massive, highly industrialized and infrastructured, diverse nation requires an effective central government, funded properly and staffed by professionals and patriots, in order to keep the wheels on the road. Remember the words of that great Republican, Oliver Wendell Holmes, who said, “Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society.” What we are seeing in New Orleans is not civilized society, but anarchy. The reasons for this are as clear as the nose on your face.

They have failed us. Many people are dead because of it. It’s time to change the software.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 07:59 AM
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1. I fucking HATE the fact that this is what it took...
...to kill the conservative movement. I was hoping for a great awakening on behalf of the American people to the dangers of unchecked capitalism and the downsizing/privatization of ESSENTIAL government services, but not at the expense of tens of thousands of lives.

Nominated!
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:06 AM
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5. Let's hope so
I fucking hate it also but I also fucking hate that I'm not so sure that America gets it, even after this epic fuck-up. I can't see how this doesn't expose the empty conservative rhetoric. I can't see how there wouldn't be a sweeping clamor to throw the bums out, a group now responsible for more American deaths than all the terrorists combined.

But this is America where propaganda and spin are king and queen. I like to think that this will be the beginning of change but I've been around long enough to realize that what I like to think and what America thinks are two different animals.
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Katidid Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:38 AM
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21. I second your statement ... "not so sure that America
gets it" ...

Our Government Has Failed US - Let us count the ways....

yet he was "re-elected"?

I hold Congress (and YES that means the Democrats, also), Homeland Security, government agency heads, the pResident and White House Administration responsible for NOT PROTECTING it's citizens. EVER!

I wish I had a large enough vacuum cleaner to sweep the politicians out Washington DC....

They have robbed from the poor, the disabled, the elderly, the vets, and the children to pay the rich, destroyed our foreign relations, and reputation, out-sourced our jobs for the good of the Corporations, in the process of destroying our Civil Rights and trashing the US Constitution...etc, etc, etc.

Anyone want to take wagers that this country will be under 'marshal law' within a year? Because I think people STILL don't get it yet.

:mad: :grr:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:33 AM
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36. You cannot convince me that he was reelected, more like pre-elected
He was handed the first one by the Supremes, in 04 he stole Ohio, and I will bet, through the long lens of history, it will be proved that he cheated around the margins in other states as well.

Deep Throat was a mystery once, too. It will all come out, eventually, if we can keep democracy and this Republic...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:22 AM
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12. Sadly, I knew it would take an absolute disaster for it to happen, but
even I never expected it to hasppen on such an immense scale.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:30 AM
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17. Sad thing is, it still may not be enough.
So many people who have comfortable lives are all too willing to blame the victims in this tragedy. I don't know if these people will ever wake up until the wolf is at their own front doors.

Funny how these people can interpret this sort of thing as an act of God. But God never acts against them and their own selfish behaviors and agendas. How convenient is that?
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ArchTeryx Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:15 PM
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58. I keep hearing this?
The conservative movement is far, far from dead. It's wounded, but wounded animals are the most dangerous, and 2006 is a long way away.

We take back even one house of Congress in 2006, that'll be a REAL serious blow to the conservative movement.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:00 AM
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2. so
Let’s repudiate these fools.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:05 AM
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3. Incisive as always, Will.
But wasn't the Blanco letter dated August 26?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:10 AM
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8. Nope
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:11 AM
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34. There were 2 letters.
The first was the declaration of a state of emergency, here, http://gov.louisiana.gov/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=973 dated August 26.

The second was her letter to * asking for help, which is the one from which Will quotes. (html link: http://www.gov.state.la.us/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=976 .. here it's actually dated 8/27.)

Any way you cut it, the LA governor was declaring emergencies and requesing fed. assistence exactly as expected.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:57 AM
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38. Here's link to article from E&P saying WaPo had to retract date re Blanco
Wash Post' Runs A Key Katrina Correction
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001054596
By E&P Staff

Published: September 04, 2005 11:30 PM ET

NEW YORK In its Sunday edition, the Washington Post quoted a "senior Bush official" who said that "as of Saturday Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency." This, of course, was meant to make the governor look foolish and spread the blame around for the disastrous response to the disaster, though it was hard to imagine on what grounds the newspaper would quote an unnamed source in this case.

Several hours of blogosphere howling ensued. Later in the day, the Post ran this correction, or rather, 180-degree turn:

"A Sept. 4 article on the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina incorrectly said that Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D) had not declared a state of emergency. She declared an emergency on Aug. 26."
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:36 AM
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37. The 2nd letter was necessary because...
...there seems to be some part of "State of Emergency" that the election thieves fail to comprehend.

--
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:05 AM
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4. Well said. n/t
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:07 AM
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6. I hope you're right.
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 08:07 AM by stellanoir
That such widespread devastation, suffering, and death was seemingly required to expose the nefarious deceptions of this regime of which most of us have seen as blatant from the get go has me absolutely stunned.

This is probably really trivial and perhaps I'm remembering it wrongly, but if memory serves, I think it was Monday when * ate cake.

on edit-Yup I just verified. McCain's birthday is the 29th.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:07 AM
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7. Thank you for writing something thoughtful
Thank you for writing something thoughful. Such a good contrast to the voluminous mindless screaming and foulmouthed shouting of useless crap these days on DU that is so very tedious.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:11 AM
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9. Excellent piece, Will
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 08:11 AM by supernova
And I do hope you are right about the analogy and we will change the software. A part of me hopes we will. And a part of me is just cynical enough to believe that we won't.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:13 AM
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10. Thank you Will
Didn't the flood of 1927 also usher in a new paradigm?

It's sad that it took this, but death of the neo-con agenda by any means should be celebrated globally.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:17 AM
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11. Nominated
I think you tied it all together into a very neat, if ugly, little package.

Kudos. Now if only you hadn't had to write it in the first place....
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:24 AM
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13. You're quite the optimist
I don't think that a major storm will wash away neo-conservatism. The hurricane just exposed unspoken and ugly rules and concepts of American society that's been in place from the country's beginnings. At least some of those are now being voiced.

Excellent article!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:27 AM
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15. That's our Will. He's SUCH a Little Mary Sunshine. *g*
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Save the Gulf, then save the nation!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:25 AM
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14. There is no turning back now. We must finish of the Neoconservative
movement now and forever.

NeoConservativism myust be linked in the average mind much the same way Communism is.

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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:27 AM
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16. Thank you, Will.
Yet another superb piece.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:32 AM
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18. I'll believe it when I see it
They have spun out of everything. They may well spin out of this. All they have to do is smear the messenger. Yes they will have the gall to do it. Target #1 is the democratic governor who they will try to put all the blame on. If she has documents they will discredit them. I just hope it backfires on them this time.
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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:33 AM
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19. The Rotten Core
You've summed up what's at the core of the rot in our system:

"What we are seeing in New Orleans is the end result of what can be best described as extended Reaganomics. Small government, budget cuts across the board, tax cuts meant to financially strangle the ability for federal agencies to function, the diversion of billions of what is left in the budget into military spending: This has been the aim and desire of the conservative movement for decades now, and they have been largely successful in their efforts.

Combine this with a wildly expensive and unnecessary war, rampant cronyism that replaces professionals with unqualified hacks at nearly every level of government, and the basic neoconservative/Straussian premise that the truth is not important and that the so-called elite know best, and you have this catastrophe laid out on a platter. The conservative and neoconservative plan for the way this country should be run has been blasted to matchsticks, their choice of priorities exposed as lacking to say the very least."

Congratulations again on another superb piece.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:34 AM
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20. NYT/Krugman has some similar views: " Killed By Contempt "
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 08:35 AM by Nothing Without Hope
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/opinion/05krugman.html?th&emc=th
Op-Ed Columnist

Killed by Contempt


By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: September 5, 2005

Each day since Katrina brings more evidence of the lethal ineptitude of federal officials. I'm not letting state and local officials off the hook, but federal officials had access to resources that could have made all the difference, but were never mobilized.

Here's one of many examples: The Chicago Tribune reports that the U.S.S. Bataan, equipped with six operating rooms, hundreds of hospital beds and the ability to produce 100,000 gallons of fresh water a day, has been sitting off the Gulf Coast since last Monday - without patients.

(snip)

But the federal government's lethal ineptitude wasn't just a consequence of Mr. Bush's personal inadequacy; it was a consequence of ideological hostility to the very idea of using government to serve the public good. For 25 years the right has been denigrating the public sector, telling us that government is always the problem, not the solution. Why should we be surprised that when we needed a government solution, it wasn't forthcoming?

(snip)

The administration has always tried to treat 9/11 purely as a lesson about good versus evil. But disasters must be coped with, even if they aren't caused by evildoers. Now we have another deadly lesson in why we need an effective government, and why dedicated public servants deserve our respect. Will we listen?

E-mail: krugman@nytimes.com


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jeffreyi Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:40 AM
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22. Perfect. nt
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:46 AM
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23. Sorry, but I am afraid the people of NO are too poor and too black
for this to happen. Great article though.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:50 AM
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24. Recommended.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:52 AM
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25. one can only hope
Well done, Will Pitt.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:08 AM
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26. Strauss' basic message was: elites rule by deception.
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 09:49 AM by leveymg
Leo Strauss greatly appeals to neo-conservatives because they believe he is a "realist" and an elitist. He was certainly a paragon of the latter strain which runs wide and deep at the University of Chicago.

Elites deserve to rule, Strauss proclaimed, because the majority are ignorant of what is best for society. In order to maintain elite rule, the majority must be tricked into believing that democracy is real. In Strauss' dialectic -- he was a Prussian authoritarian who fled from Hitler's Germany -- real democracy is totalitarian, and representative institutions must be subverted from above in order to avert their degeneration into majority tyranny, which he equated with National Socialism.

His political philosophy dovetails nicely with the Chicago School of economics, particularly "Rational Interest" theory, which also says that politics and markets operate according to predictable patterns of mass deception, imperfect information, and confusion, rather than according to the rational self-interest of the majority of voters and small investors, who left to their own devices will foolishly protect their own interests, leading to demagoguery and economic stagnation.

Strauss and the neoconservative ethos is contra the rational idealism that informs the Jeffersonian conception of democratic self-rule and scoffs at the "random walk" school that believes that markets should not be rigged and big and small investors have an equal chance of making a profit.

All this is based in Hobbes, Machiavelli and Schumpeter. The assumption is that since the revolutions of the 18th Century, it has been necessary to construct the facade of representative democracy and open economic opportunity in order to maintain the peaceful cooperation of the majority. This does not mean that the majority do actually rule, or should weild real control over government and markets, which are dangerous things in the wrong hands. A widespread sense of uncertainty and insecurity is good for manipulating the masses, as is the "creative destruction" (Schumpeter's term) of old industries and institutions, because this "liberates" capital for riskier, higher-return investments.

Therefore, it behooves the "enlightened" elites to learn how to manipulate crisis, which are normal, in order to control market psychology and elections.

Subversion from above and managed chaos. That folks, is the neocon philosophy that -- in incompetent hands -- has brought catastrophy to a declining American empire during the Bush-Cheney years. Makes perfect sense if one is in the process of "creative destruction" of the United States in order to export jobs and capital to higher return markets abroad.

The only rational response by the majority, under these circumstances of threat to their own survival, is the reestablishment of majority rule of law and the arrest of predatory, criminal elites.

September 24 is a good date to start that Second American Revolution.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:13 AM
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27. Add Hayek to the list of their gurus
and there you have it. Well said.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:31 AM
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29. I was surprised to find that F.A. Hayek is not as fanatical as I expected
His "Road to Serfdom" concedes that state regulation and intervention are sometimes a very good thing.

While very much a von, he lacks the sort of brutal enthusiasm for elite rule that Strauss exalts. Instead, like von Mises and the Austrian School, he's a believer in broad-based market solutions and is very much opposed to monopolization of power, which Hayek says is the root of destruction of social institutions, economic as well as political.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:20 AM
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28. before we "change the software", we have to "write the new program"
that's a fine essay, Will ...

it is important, in the war of words, to encapsulate more than just bush's failure to give a damn about the hurricane victims ... we have to make the case that what we have seen here is the emptiness of republican ideology ... small, effective government is one thing; republicans have built a dysfunctional government that leaves "every man for himself" ... that's not a "great American society"; it's a recipe for national decline ...

so, yes, the current software is beyond repair ... it's done more damage to the soul of the American spirit and the hope for a better future in the last five years than all the mistakes in the previous 200+ years of the republic combined ...

but Democrats, in spite of a myriad of program offerings and wonky but important policy positions, have failed to build their vision for the country into a movement ... we continue to believe that we can wait for a really good candidate to lead the way ... "when we have a nominee, then we'll know what Democrats stand for" ... this approach has not, and will not, yield the results we seek ... we still have not learned the difference between building a movement and running a campaign ...

to be as trite as possible, we lack the "vision thing" ... and my vision is to call for a renewal of our democracy ... my vision is to put our faith in the American people and understand that they are crying out for the ideals of democracy that they learned as school children ... many Americans may not possess the amount of information many DU'ers have ... they may not be interested or well informed on the great issues of the day ... they may not participate to a sufficient degree to help safeguard their democracy ...

but one thing's for sure: they have been well drilled in the ideals that citizens should choose their government and the government should select policies that serve the best interests of the nation ... I think Americans would be very responsive to a message that we, as a nation, have lost our way ... i think Americans understand that "special interests" control the policies that our elected officials endorse ... some fear that's a negative message that would be painted as "anti-American" ... i disagree ... if the case is made properly and with passion, i can think of nothing that is more pro-American than the renewal of our democracy and the restoration of the ideals on which it was founded ...

so we have work to do ... yes, we need to tie the entire enchilada of republican-think into one big knot and hold it up nice and high so the American people can see it for what it really is ... but we need to take the next step beyond that or we will achieve little more than a vacuum of power ... that's exactly what's happening now ... Americans have lost confidence in the "do nothing" republicans but they're not knocking down the doors to install Democrats into positions of power ... Americans are crying out for leadership and hope ... the opportunity is there for Democrats to fill the void ... thus far, they have not done so ...

it's definitely time to "change the software" ... that's just what the people want ... but first we have to "write the new program" ...
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:55 AM
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31. Exactly right.
This is where we are headed.

Might I add that in order to achieve this goal, we stop punishing, and start enlightening. Well, I could go into my ideas. But I'll spare it.

Your thinking is perfect. Let's go.

It'll take money to refinish our schools. But that's also another discussion.

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:48 AM
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30. The Wizard of Oz exposed.
You've put it together very well. Can we call what is happening in New Orleans "anarchy". I would call it chaos. Anarchy gets a bad rap.

The nighmare isn't over yet. I can't believe you were still teaching school when this all began. It's like a slow motion accident. But this one is not an accident. It's vandalism.

Thank you so much William.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:00 AM
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32. Republican paradise = Somalia.
No taxes.
No government.
No welfare programs.
No gun restrictions.

They want to turn the US intio Somalia and they are doing a damn good job.

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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:05 AM
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33. Love the Churchill quote. He's describing The Social Contract.
and Bush and the Republican Party have grossly violated it.

New Orleans and the Gulf coast in Mississippi and Alabama are the bitter fruit of this 25+ year-old policy.


:kick:
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JugDack Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:24 AM
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35. Wishful thinking, but no way.
No one is going to hear this, despite its brilliance. The con movement is alive and stronger than ever. They control all branches of government, the media and the means of election. Short of catching Bush screwing his pet goat, they can do whatever they want, and spin it in their favor afterwards.

I predict big polictical trouble for the Mayor of NO and the Gov of LA. No problems of any size for Bushco. HIS ratings will actually go UP, since folks have forgotten about Iraq now.


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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:24 PM
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63. Stronger than ever? I disagree
They're a trapped and dangerous animal right now, but surely not stronger than ever. I believe their control of all branches of government will be short lived, and their control of the media is slipping big time. Hopefully those things will combine to fix the means of election. Their master spinner is in big trouble, and not at the top of his game, to say the least, and I believe the vice pResident is as well.

I predict little political trouble for the Mayor or the Governor, and BIG problems for *. Media is key, and the media isn't buying the spin this time - read the transcript from today's WH press conference. It's just not gonna work this time. I predict his ratings will drop to an historical low for any pResident. The rethugs are going to jump ship faster than you can say FEMA, to save their own asses, and maybe, just maybe, we will get our country back.

Wishful thinking, it may be, but that's my prediction. Oh, and Iraq isn't forgotten, just on the back burner right now. I'm guessing Washington in late September is going to be an interesting place.
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JugDack Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:27 AM
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71. I hope so much that you're right!
I don't think you are, but I sure would be happy to be wrong. At least initially here, you are right on target. The press conference was a good sign, but that's just 1 day. Let's see where we are in a week. Betcha nobody is asking Scotty those kinds of questions next week. They'll all be asking "are Dems too partisan?" re: the SCOTUS/Roberts.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:58 AM
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39. SPOT ON, WILL!
This is what happens when you implement conservative pholosphical views in the public arena.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:05 AM
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40. What Strauss didn't understand was the Internet!
Thank you Al Gore! Power to the people!
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:08 AM
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41. "Conservative Movement"
Heh heh. You said 'movement.' /butthead
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pursuivant Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:39 AM
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42. Fact Check: Haliburton didn't get the "contract to rebuild NO"
As of this writing, they got a contract to clean up 3 Naval bases along the Gulf Coast. Admittedly, that's shocking, but it's different from what you described.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:06 PM
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47. wait a week, it will become true n/t
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:42 AM
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43. I sorta agree....
I sorta don't.


On the one-hand i do believe that this is what starving the beast gets ya.

However- from what i'm gathering - i think a lot of libertarians, free-marketeers and supply-siders feel this absolutely vindicates how much Big Government sucks in getting things done.


and in ways they kind of have a point - it definitely illustrates how much THIS PARTICULAR clusterfuck of beauraucracy sucks, and truth be told the hotels that got in and took their folks out did what we were expecting government to do.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:42 PM
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59. If I have a dull knife...
do I throw it out and declare that knives are incapable of cutting things, or do I sharpen it?
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:11 AM
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69. I'd sharpen it.....
and like i said - I agree that we need governmnet, govenrment failed usthis ment, and we need to fix that.


however - i'm just saying - despite facts to the contrary - these guys can find a different way to spin it, and we need to be on guard.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:06 AM
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68. From what I've seen, the libertarians are on the defensive.
Either that or they've gone totally silent. I'm a regular on another discussion board, and today one of the libertarians tried to start a thread about how the welfare state creates a "culture of dependency" that conditions people to expect government to bail them out. The liberals on the board are giving her hell about it, and I think she's sorry she ever got into it with them.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:12 AM
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70. yeah i was hearing the same things.....
"culture of dependeny" crap, and why should it be the governmnet's job to bail out etc, et
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:04 PM
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44. I'm with you..your statement is good. Who's the programmer?
Who do we talk to?

Do we wait till 2006 and hope for a fair campaign, honest election, informative media, and then hope our congressional leaders remember checks and balances? Are our 2006 new congressional leaders the programmers?

Do we boycott consumerism and put pressure on corporatists who then pressure lawmakers and media to make some concessions? Are the CEO's and corporate boards the programmers?

Do we start filing lawsuits against the government for criminal neglect, cronyism, tampering with scientific evidence, lying to congress, etc in the hopes that the courts will direct policy changes? Are the judges and juries the programmers?

Are we the programmers? Do we physically march against our leaders and demand changes? Do we organize million-strong protests? Do we find a charismatic, intelligence spokesman who can rally interest and committment from millions?

Does it fall to the 2008 voters? Do we then trust the election process, campaign fairness, media reporting and that the GOP doesn't pull OBL out of hiding or find that N. Korea is again on the verge of threatening the rest of the world?

Yes government has been failing the public for 5 years and we can't believe they are still there....and they probably can't believe we've let them stay there. It is past time for change. IT IS NOW TIME TO ASK HOW....HOW CHANGE IS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.

I wish I could help answer that... I do worry that we are past the point where we can rely on elections.





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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:37 PM
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45. Killed your thread. Sorry. nt
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:07 PM
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48. You are
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:57 PM
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50. Just trying to give direction to the sentiment, Will
so that we get past "Bush is done"
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:02 PM
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46. thank you, thank you, thank you
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 01:06 PM by LSK
You have put to words what I have been thinking and trying to articulate for a week now. The whole neo-conservative ideology is a sham, a fraud and a threat to a civilized society.

They have been "starving the beast". Well, the beast just collapsed and is on life support now.

Thank you.

ps: I assume this will be on truthout.org?
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:23 PM
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49. The Declaration of Independence 2005 C.E.
As I read your article Will (good stuff), it occurred to me to read the Declaration over. I was struck by how timely it has become. In fact, it could have been written today. I've copied and pasted below a portion of it. Not only is there a cogent call to dismantling a flawed government, but also many of the grievances listed in the 1776 document are alarmingly parallel to the political reality of today. (I cut it off almost arbitrarily but it's good reading all the way through.

:patriot:

The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies
In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. —Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has endeavored to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offenses:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighboring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

...and so it goes.

http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:24 PM
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51. Is it even POSSIBLE to "vote" the Busheviks out anymore?
I have my serious doubts. Only a Free Nation could throw these vampires off our necks.

I just doubt whether Imperial Amerika is a Free Nation anymore.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:30 PM
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52. Link to final
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:32 PM
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53. Kicked & Recommended, Sir
Well Said As Always.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:35 PM
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54. Norquists "drowning in a bathtub" remark should come & haunt them
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:40 PM
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55. I think the warnings against domination by the military/industrial complex
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 04:41 PM by Just Me
MUST MUST MUST be heeded. If we are to grow and learn from history, we damn well better confront where and when and how we screwed up and acknowledge the sacrifice of all those who ACTUALLY PULLED US FORWARD.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:03 PM
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56. Throw conservative dogma into the dustbin of history where it belongs.
WEll said as always Will.
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OKJackson Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:16 PM
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57. Kick! n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:52 PM
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60. They forgot about this:
It isn’t fair, he rages within. We had it wired. The House is ours, the Senate is ours, the Supreme Court is ours, the Justice Department is ours, the television news media is bought and paid for. We could act with impunity, say whatever we needed to say to get what we want, do whatever wanted, and no one could touch us. We could refashion the nation as we see fit, whether people wanted to come along with us or not, because we know better.


Now that they control the whole government, there isn't anyone to blame but each other. Watch the back stabbing begin.

I liked this article a lot Will.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:02 PM
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61. Far too many have paid for this with their lives
Both in NOLA and Iraq. By god i hope they pay for what they've done.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:00 PM
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62. Awesome post! (n/t)
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 04:21 AM
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64. how 'bout Anarchy
they want to drown the Federal Government into lifelessnes...go ahead let them...how do they like chaos...hhhmmm...must be pretty well...seems to be what they have achieved...except they still have the Federal big dogs....armed to, and ordered to, shoot to kill...So they want small government...but want to be the only ones...who get to be elected...so it can be...only their kind of government....if they hate government so much....why don't they do us all a big favor and stop running for office?
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artemisia1 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 04:29 AM
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65. Kicked and nominated. nt
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 04:33 AM
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66. Wonderfully written piece-- What are your thoughts on
the neo conservatives that are holding on to the belief, that this has nothing to do with the govt., is NOT their furhers fault, etc., etc.?

I saw very similiar statements echoed in Ben Stein's words that someone posted to DU earlier this evening.

Thoughts?

Oh, and thanks again for your analysis--enjoyed reading it a great deal! Kicked and nominated!
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babyk Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 04:48 AM
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67. looks like another "tide is turning" post
except it took 500 words.
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