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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:25 AM
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I need a debunk for "the LA Governer didn't ask for the National Guard"..
I have a particularly stupid freeper that needs something shoved down their throat.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:26 AM
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1. Washington Post retraction is your best bet
I think it was in Friday's edition.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:28 AM
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2. You have a lInky???
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:58 PM
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11. Here's the timeline taken re: Katrina to refute right wing lies-seelink
All executive orders were issued by Gov. Blanco at the appropriate times
Here is a timeline of actions taken regarding Katrina in an attempt to refute right wing lies.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4618468


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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:28 AM
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3. This TPM post links to most of the debunking
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:30 AM
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4. Stick this in front of their face
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 11:31 AM by Beaver Tail
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seshers Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:42 AM
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5. Here you go
Remind your "friend" that the President has the ability to federalize the National Guard. That means he can temporally decide how, when and where to deploy them. His father did exactly this in his term.

And tell your freeper to "shut up"
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:47 PM
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8. and they already did it to send them to Iraq
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:46 AM
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6. Show the moran this:
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4658003
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:47 AM
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7. here you go
BATON ROUGE—Today Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco forwarded a letter to
President Bush requesting that he declare an emergency for the State of
Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina. The full text of the letter follows:


August 27, 2005




The President
The White House
Washington, D. C.


Through:
Regional Director
FEMA Region VI
800 North Loop 288
Denton, Texas 76209


Dear Mr. President:


Under the provisions of Section 501 (a) of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster
Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and
implemented by 44 CFR § 206.35, I request that you declare an emergency for
the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina for the time period beginning
August 26, 2005, and continuing. The affected areas are all the southeastern
parishes including the New Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate
I-49 corridor and northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are
accepting the thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be flooded
as a result of Hurricane Katrina.


In response to the situation I have taken appropriate action under State law
and directed the execution of the State Emergency Plan on August 26, 2005 in
accordance with Section 501 (a) of the Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has
been issued for the State in order to support the evacuations of the coastal
areas in accordance with our State Evacuation Plan and the remainder of the
state to support the State Special Needs and Sheltering Plan.


Pursuant to 44 CFR § 206.35, I have determined that this incident is of such
severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of
the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal
assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety,
or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster. I am specifically requesting
emergency protective measures, direct Federal Assistance, Individual and
Household Program (IHP) assistance, Special Needs Program assistance, and debris
removal.


Preliminary estimates of the types and amount of emergency assistance needed
under the Stafford Act, and emergency assistance from certain Federal agencies
under other statutory authorities are tabulated in Enclosure A.


The following information is furnished on the nature and amount of State and
local resources that have been or will be used to alleviate the conditions of
this emergency:
• Department of Social Services (DSS): Opening (3) Special Need Shelters
(SNS) and establishing (3) on Standby.
• Department of Health and Hospitals (DHH): Opening (3) Shelters and
establishing (3) on Standby.
• Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness (OHSEP): Providing
generators and support staff for SNS and Public Shelters.
• Louisiana State Police (LSP): Providing support for the phased evacuation
of the coastal areas.
• Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries (WLF): Supporting the
evacuation of the affected population and preparing for Search and Rescue Missions.




Mr. President
Page Two
August 27, 2005




• Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development (DOTD): Coordinating
traffic flow and management of the evacuations routes with local officials
and the State of Mississippi.






The following information is furnished on efforts and resources of other
Federal agencies, which have been or will be used in responding to this incident:
• FEMA ERT-A Team en-route.


I certify that for this emergency, the State and local governments will
assume all applicable non-Federal share of costs required by the Stafford Act.


I request Direct Federal assistance for work and services to save lives and
protect property.



(a) List any reasons State and local government cannot perform or contract
for performance, (if applicable).


(b) Specify the type of assistance requested.


In accordance with 44 CFR § 206.208, the State of Louisiana agrees that it
will, with respect to Direct Federal assistance:


1. Provide without cost to the United States all lands, easement, and
rights-of-ways necessary to accomplish the approved work.


2. Hold and save the United States free from damages due to the requested
work, and shall indemnify the Federal Government against any claims arising from
such work;


3. Provide reimbursement to FEMA for the non-Federal share of the cost of
such work in accordance with the provisions of the FEMA-State Agreement; and


4. Assist the performing Federal agency in all support and local
jurisdictional matters.


In addition, I anticipate the need for debris removal, which poses an
immediate threat to lives, public health, and safety.


Pursuant to Sections 502 and 407 of the Stafford Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 5192 &
5173, the State agrees to indemnify and hold harmless the United States of
America for any claims arising from the removal of debris or wreckage for this
disaster. The State agrees that debris removal from public and private property
will not occur until the landowner signs an unconditional authorization for the
removal of debris.




I have designated Mr. Art Jones as the State Coordinating Officer for this
request. He will work with the Federal Emergency Management Agency in damage
assessments and may provide further information or justification on my behalf.


Sincerely,








Kathleen Babineaux Blanco
Governor
Enclosure




ENCLOSURE A TO EMERGENCY REQUEST




Estimated requirements for other Federal agency programs:
• Department of Social Services (DSS): Opening (3) Special Need Shelters
(SNS) and establishing (3) on Standby. Costs estimated at $500,000 per week for
each in operation.
• Department of Health and Hospitals (DHH): Opening (3) Shelters and
establishing (3) on Standby. Costs estimated at $500,000 per week for each in
operation.
• Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness (OHSEP): Providing
generators and support staff for SNS and Public Shelters. Costs estimated to
range from $250,000-$500,000 to support (6) Shelter generator operations.
• Louisiana State Police (LSP): Costs to support evacuations - $300,000 for a
non-direct landfall.
• Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries (WLF): Costs to support
evacuations - $200,000 for a non-direct landfall.
• Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development (DOTD): Costs to
support evacuations - $2,000,000 for a non-direct landfall.




Totals: $ 9,000,000


Estimated Requirements for assistance under the Stafford Act:


Coordination: $0
Technical and advisory assistance: $0
Debris removal: $0
Emergency protective measures: $ 9,000,000
Individuals and Households Program (IHP): $0
Distribution of emergency supplies: $0
Other (specify): $0


Totals: $ 9,000,000
Grand Total: $ 9,000,000


http://www.gov.state.la.us/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=976
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:50 PM
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10. And FEMA acknowledges that here:
http://www.fema.gov/emanagers/2005/nat082705.shtm

State of Emergency Declared in Mississippi, Louisiana DueIn anticipation of a possible landfall, Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour and Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco declared States of Emergency Friday. In Louisiana, New Orleans is of particular concern because much of that city lies below sea level.

According to Gov. Blanco, Lake Pontchartrain is a very large lake that sits next to the city of New Orleans and if the hurricane winds blow from a certain direction, there are dire predictions of what may happen in the city.

Robert Latham, director of the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency, said evacuations of tourists along the coast could begin late Saturday afternoon, followed by mandatory evacuations of coastal residents on Sunday. The National Guard had been activated to help with storm preparations, he said.

The last time Mississippi or Louisiana saw landfall from a storm classified as Category 4 or stronger was in August 1969, when Hurricane Camille roared ashore with winds in excess of 155 mph, killing 143 people.

In the Gulf of Mexico, six oil companies operating offshore facilities evacuated at least 150 people as a precaution. However, most of those employees were described as "non-essential" to production, and rigs and platforms continued to operate.

At least 12 platforms and nine oil rigs in the Gulf have been evacuated -- a small portion of the 953 manned rigs and platforms operating there, according to the Interior Department's Mineral Management Service.

Friday afternoon, the Air Force began evacuating aircraft from at least two bases in the Florida Panhandle to minimize any possible damage.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:49 PM
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9. A timeline was posted in DU that showed everything Blanco did
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 12:56 PM by demo dutch
I'll see if I can find the link
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:34 PM
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12. Blanco declared state of emergency on Aug 26th. .
Text here: http://gov.louisiana.gov/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=973

Aug 27 Blanco asks Bush to declare state of emergency for Louisiana, text here: http://gov.louisiana.gov/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=976

As Governor she has authority to call out the LA guard on her own which she did. LA also had/has mutual aid agreements with other states to share NG.

And then there's this from an article on NG response, issues:

"Bush had the legal authority to order the National Guard to the disaster area himself, as he did after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. But the troops four years ago were deployed for national security protection, and presidents of both parties traditionally defer to governors to deploy their own National Guardsmen and request help from other states when it comes to natural disasters." http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=1093075
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