Another tale of a staunch rethug turning against *

[freeplessinseattle]

First, an excerpt from my post on a non-political board I frequent:

"I personally find it interesting all the people that steadfastly hold onto this vision of the POTUS as infallible, all of the time, never subject to mistakes or criticism. This is a personality trait, not a political viewpoint. I think some people are afraid that if they admit to an inadequacy in someone they voted for it reflects upon themselves, which is illogical. Starting off a thread with "I told you so" is not condusive to debate and will put people immediately on the defensive. I can understand Raoul's emotional outburst, but I personally am not an "I told you so" type of person, remember, I am working on being a counselor, and they are not I told you so type of people, think about it. That is the nature of psychology.

Personally I have criticized Clinton many times over, I freely admitted that he let me down many times. Why is it so hard for some people to do the same thing with their chosen leaders? Why can't people say, like some have, "Well, I thought he was fabulous, but in the face of new information..." or "well, he's a good boy with good intentions, he's just not that bright, it took him five days to realize the response was unacceptable." If you say this you will not be seen as weak, you will gain respect and seen as strong, able to see the big picture, putting values before pride. I was more than willing to chew out Clinton, we should hold our leaders to higher standards, it is our right and duty to do so."

A couple posts down is this reply from a die-hard fundie (a "preacher's daughter" as she has described herself). She is obviously still very repukey, but I thought I would never see the day that she dissed smirkface:

"Bush is NOT a good representation of what the conservatives are. He's actually an embarrassment at times.

But, he was the lesser of two evils in many peoples opinion. We need better choices for President. If I thought a third party candidate had a snowballs chance in hell, I'd get the heck out of the two party crap. They are all corrupt.

I guess you could call me a fundamental American. We can give hope without giving up the farm. (This comment is about immigration-Not disaster relief)

All I can hope for is that since we survived 8 years of the Clintons, we can make it the rest of the time with Bush and hope to God that someone with American's best interest can become a candidate without his past ruining his family. Screw the Dems or the Reps. Forget the right or the left. We need to fix our government, and then our country."

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Well, turn them on to

election reform:

http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm

[nyhuskyfan]

2. Tough times, those Clinton years...

What with the peace and the prosperity and the economic boom and the crime rates down and the poverty levels down and the standards of living up.

I survived them, too. It was tough. I mean when I was looking to advance my career in 1998, I had employers fighting over me. Unlike 1992, when I graduated college and worked as a temp for eight months.

It gutted it out, though.

[tk2kewl]

4. My thoughts exactly

I think it's time for government funded lobotomies for these nut jobs

[Guaranteed]

5. Horrible.

It was just horrible. :P

[freeplessinseattle]

9. oddly enough, in a board convo a few days before the hurricane

in response to a bushbashing session she said, "if we can survive 8 years of Clinton we can survive 8 years of Bush" I laughed and laughed at that ridiculous remark but now it's not so funny. bush really is a tremendous threat to survival, but she still thinks Clinton was more so??? wahhht? I thinks he just repeats what rush says (she has actually quoted rush, as if he's a credible source) and does not think at all.

At least she is starting to admit that smirk is a fuck up, and even "an embarassment", lol

[freeplessinseattle]

13. btw, I didn't really complain much about Clinton

just was exaggerating a bit to illustrate my point.

[tk2kewl]

3. What exactly did Clinton do threaten this persons "survival"?

Bush on the other hand...

[freeplessinseattle]

6. she's obsessed with dodging taxes is all I can figure

that's all she ever has to say in any political discussion. if she was in NO I'll bet she would've regretted saving a few bucks on taxes. I felt like asking "was it worth it?". those tax dodgers should be ashamed.

[tom_paine]

7. "Survived the 8 years of Clinton"?!?

Yeah, all that peace and prosperity.

Boy, it sucked being able to find a job within a month of looking!

And paying off our debts? Yeah, thank God we got back to the serious buisness of bankrupting the country, thus "starving the beast" and making government small enough so it could be "drowned in a bathtub".

Now, New Orleans is the bathtub...but it could be ANYONE next in Third World Bushmerika.

These people are STILL living in a Nazi-propagandized Dreamworld. It is interesting to see them stir, but it is far too little, too late to save Free America.

That place is gone.

[tk2kewl]

10. The only reason it took a month to find a job...

is because you could force the employers to try to outbid each other. That took a little time.

[SammyWinstonJack]

8. Yeah because those 8 years of Clinton really sucked!

:eyes: She can take her 'fundamental conservative' crap and shove it!

[freeplessinseattle]

11. oh, no, she's a "fundamental American" whatever that means!

[SammyWinstonJack]

14. You should ask her what that means? I would love to hear that.

[randr]

12. A president is merely temp help

We hire them for 4 years and if they do good we give them another 4. Then its out the door.
Our constitution was set up to give more power to the people through the congress.
This process has been perverted.
In reality, the teachers and principals in our schools deserve more respect and Honor than any president.