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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 03:58 PM
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Oh, PLEASE tell me we are NOT creating MASS GRAVES!!!!
Please tell me that is NOT TRUE!!! :cry:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 03:59 PM
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1. it's true, health reasons
and then if folks want to exhume them for identitie purposes they can. gruesome but true. and the unidentified will be permanent residents.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:24 PM
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23. Has this been stated somewhere tho??

Understand that it may happen, but until someone verifies...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:56 PM
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37. CNN reported on this earlier today. I'm afraid it's true. nt
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:04 PM
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41. you know they will not be allowed to exhume them for any reason n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:00 PM
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2. But Saddam
n/t
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:02 PM
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3. There is nothing else they can possibly do at this point, as miserable as
it is. Yes, just one more for the BFEE, Dubya and his family's gang of thugs and theives.

We knew this was coming, didn't we?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:12 PM
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16. But, *cry* we HAVE TO DUMP AMERICANS INTO MASS GRAVES?
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 04:13 PM by Just Me
:cry: My God!!! :cry:

FUCK!!!

There is NO WAY to identify in a sanitary way? :cry:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:56 PM
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38. This would NEVER happen if it were mostly middle and upper class people
Some other alternative would be found.

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:05 PM
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42. and YOU know THAT
isn't it all so damn sick? Classism and racism, brough to us by the rich and powerful.

We need a national income CAP.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:03 PM
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4. B*sh's LEGACY: Bulldozers filling mass graves near New Orleans. nt
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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:16 PM
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43. Just like his dad only then it was surrendering Iraqis who were burned and
buried in mass graves.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:03 PM
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5. Yup, we'll never know how many people died.
The number we get will be far lower than the actual.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:10 PM
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15. Yup - it would explain the dearth of official reports pertaining to the
number of deaths in the region.

Everything he's touched has turned to shit - and half of this country defends him tooth and nail.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:04 PM
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6. Like Dennie said "By the looks of things it should be bulldozed"
:cry: I am sick. Just sick!

Peace.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:04 PM
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7. This morning they were talking about buying property and burying people
above ground. That way people could take their loved ones somewhere else if they want to. Otherwise, they would still be buried. That was Louisiana.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:42 PM
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32. I missed your post, sorry
I posted the same thing further down in this thread. You're right. This is what I heard, too.
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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:05 PM
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8. SOYLENT GREEN IS PE... wait a second... n/t
Thanks George!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:07 PM
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9. I think they said "Grave Masses"
(Dour ceremonies in the Catholic Church.) :evilgrin:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:09 PM
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13. no randi rhodes just said " MASS GRAVES " AND THAT THEY ARE MAKING IT NOW
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

FLY
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:25 PM
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24. How does Randi know this??!!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:07 PM
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10. yes randi rhodes just told about it!!!!!!!!!!
they have already made the mass grave....ohhh god i keep saying this..but what in the hell have we become ...

and the fucking freepers keep making excuses for this...i hate them from the deepest part of me..a place i never knew i had....


i want * tried for treason to this nation..and i want him in prison for what he has done to my country and her people!! and any sob who supports or makes excuses for that son of a bitch i want them in prison as well!!


i feel sick....

i am sorry for what we have done to you poor souls who did what you were supposed to do..you lived you paid your taxes , you worked, you fought for your nation..and her flag, you raised your kids, and you died because we let you down...

i will never stop until we get this fucker out of my "used to be" white house...now my white house is covered with the blood of this nations people!

i want * in prison!!!!!!!

i want the hannitys... i want the rush assholes in prison with their anti christ!

fly

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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:07 PM
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11. here's a question?
why can't they burn the dead?


i suppose cremate is a better word - but I'm indian. our dead get put on a pile of wood and torched.


and a lot of it has to do with public health reasons (or did back in the day)
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:08 PM
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12. They may still want to be able to identify people
and if there are bones, the remains could be identified.
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:17 PM
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17. Too many bodies to burn
It would take far too much firewood. And time. After the Galveston hurricane it took two months to burn all the bodies.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:17 PM
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18. Lack of facilities.
Cremation facilites are set up for one body at a time. They are expecting 40,000 bodies. Something has to be done with them.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:23 PM
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22. Not the first time.
When you have a disaster with thousands of bodies, you have to do something quickly. After the 1900 galveston hurricane, bodies were disposed of by mass burnings on barges.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:25 PM
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25. yeah i guess i didn't take into account the logisitcs
of burning 40,000 dead...
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:00 PM
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39. They are expecting 40K deaths in the whole storm path?
Or they are expecting 40K deaths in NO alone?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:22 PM
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20. I just want to know if they'll be identified so American families,...
,...will know whether or not their family members or friends are dead or alive or missing.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:39 PM
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30. That's what they did back in 1900 with the Galveston Hurricane.
They burned the bodies where they were after trying other methods of disposing of them.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:10 PM
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14. What???? What?!!! What????!!!!!!!!
Mass graves???? OMG....that was a RW talking point for invading IRAQ!!!! What the fuck is going on?!! Please tell me this isn't true. Please. After they leave the dying people in the MORGUE to die, they go and dump their bodies in a mass grave????:grr:

IMPEACH, INDICT, IMPRISON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:19 PM
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19. It's Clinton's fault!
...an...and the liberal media! It's their fault for being dead!
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:23 PM
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21. Looks like we'll never know what the real death toll is.
The last I counted, there were over 300 foriegn nationals missing in New Orleans.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4643137
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:26 PM
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26. They had funeral pryes for the victims of the 1900 Galveston hurricane
Bodies that were buried at sea, washed back on shore. Estimates of 6000 dead.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:31 PM
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27. Who will end up with more of their citizens in mass graves?

Bush or Hussein?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:37 PM
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28. So where are these mass graves going to be?
Because they can't bury them in New Orleans, because it's under the sea level. Hence why people are buried above ground there.

So where are these graves at?
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:38 PM
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29. Bush will never allow the Amrican people know how many died
They will bury it all.

I think its way more than 10,000.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:40 PM
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31. NO mass graves
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 04:43 PM by MaineDem
Here's what i heard this morning.

They will buy a large piece of land for the cemetary. Individual samples of DNA will be stored and tagged and the corresponding body will be buried and marked in this cemetary. Once the remains are identified the families can reclaim the body and rebury it as they wish. Those not identified will remain in the cemetary. There will be a memorial placed there as well.

It is not a mass grave.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:43 PM
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33. Thanks for the information. n/t
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:45 PM
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34. So, they are NOT going to dump bodies into one large hole?
Please, give me a reassuring link. I am just freaked out by the thought of our people being dumped.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:52 PM
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36. Sorry I don't have a link
I'm pretty sure it was a report on CNN.

But if they place bodies in one large grave there wouldn't be any way to identify them. This report specifically said that once the remains were idenitifed the bodies could be disinterred (if that's a word) and moved according to the families' wishes. This wouldn't be possible with a mass grave.

As much as I detest the BFEE, I can't imagine anyone standing for thr inhumanity of a mass grave. Especially since the bodies are, presumably, identifiable; nothing like the remains from the WTC.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:21 PM
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44. But, my understanding is that they do plan to place bodies in one,...
,...large grave. HS and FEMA plan that kind of mass grave for "health reasons". Please, please tell me it isn't true. I really need clarification because this action would be beyond belief in a country that has such massive resources.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:23 PM
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45. As I said before, I have no proof
Just reporting what I heard.

<<HS and FEMA plan that kind of mass grave for "health reasons".>>

Where's the proof of that statement?

We'll just have to wait and see, I guess.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 07:02 PM
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49. Seriously, I want substantiation. CM has reported "mass graves".
I want to know what that means.
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expatriate Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:47 PM
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35. Thank you, this makes sense. n/t
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:04 PM
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40. Sadly, very few will read this post...and the latest Conspiracy...
Theory will continue to run rampant. Thanks for trying though.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:26 PM
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47. Except that this post has no more validity than the latest...
"conspiracy theory"... so... thanks for trying... whatever it is you are trying.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:24 PM
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46. And how much do we trust them to properly document all this?
They are counting on many not being identified. Whole families have perished. Who's looking for THEM?
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:23 PM
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50. Link. Per FEMA spokesman. "Temporary mass graves"
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/...

When the Disaster Mortuary Operational Response Team is able to recover the bodies, they will institute an emergency plan to take DNA and available identification then bury them in temporary mass graves. That plan is sensitive and has never been instituted in the United States before, but is necessary, according to Federal Emergency Medical Agency spokesman Marty Bahamonde,

"This is so massive, it requires that," Bahamonde said. "We realize that people that have been evacuated won't get back for days or weeks."
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 06:28 PM
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48. Where ??
Can't bury them in NO. No one gets buried in that town. All the cemeteries are above ground.

Are they planning on shipping the bodies out to be buried somewhere else? And just what community would accept these bodies?
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:50 AM
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51. Locking....
Locking this as "asked and answered"




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