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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:17 PM
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Is Obama saying that he doesn't believe that this was about race
so the country doesn't explode in mass riots? Other than that...I don't get it. Not at all.

peace.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:18 PM
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1. "The ineptitude was color-blind"
or he just said something like that....
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:18 PM
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2. class or race or political affiliation?
Take your pick.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:19 PM
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3. Listen to him until the end
He says it is about class and the fact that nobody cares about the very poor, that nothing was planned to evacuate them.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:20 PM
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4. RW white middle class ex-bush loving in-laws believe it is
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 04:21 PM by cynatnite
They said if these people hadn't been black and poor, this wouldn't have happened.

If they believe it, you can bet most of the country believes it.

I knew racism was alive and well in this country, but I'm a believer now. All that's missing from bush and minions is the white sheets. They hide it with denial and pretense.

Having Condi up there saying it wasn't race sure isn't changing any minds.

edited cause I mess up.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:21 PM
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5. C'mon he want to be prez someday. Can't go around pissing off whitey
if you want to be the ruling class.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:22 PM
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6. It's so sad to read what you just posted.
Just very sad.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:23 PM
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9. C'mon he want to be prez someday. Can't go around pissing off whitey
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:24 PM
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10. Absolutely no need for this
None whatsoever.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:31 PM
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20. There was no need for Obama to vote to confirm Imelda Rice, either..... nt
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:38 PM
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26. It is sad, but it is also absolutely necessary.
If you believe that simply voting in another politician is going to make any difference. I'm just trying to point out the differences are cosmetic only. Our "representatives" don't represent us and haven't for a long time.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:23 PM
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7. Obama may not understand Southern politics.
Racism and classism are inextricably intertwined in the South.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:23 PM
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8. it's about war on the poor
yes, many African-Americans were involved but also poor and elderly whites.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:24 PM
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11. I suspect it has more to do with poverty
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 04:25 PM by dmordue
In this country it takes money to have political clout. Bush has made it clear that his interests are in corporations and large republican donors.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:24 PM
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12. how surprising, not. eom.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:24 PM
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13. You cannot talk about class without talking about race
24% of African Americans are in poverty, nearly HALF of African American children live in poverty while only 8% of whites live in poverty.

Poverty and race are inextricably linked.
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:25 PM
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14. well
in the big picture I think he's right, it's more about class
and the royal screw job on anyone who needs assistance in the US,
the poor, disabled, elderly.

But, in the incidence level...I think race is huge, the fact that they stopped rescue because of the "looters" and "violence" and some of the many stories imply there is racism looking at blacks as a bunch of violent criminals...

But big picture is more $$$$$ and lack thereof.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:25 PM
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15. ALL the Senate Dems have been VERY mild mannered today which
is NOT what I was hoping for. WE NEED PEOPLE TO STAND UP AND SCREAM ABOUT THIS REGIME! Who is ever going to do that? I'm sick and tired of this "diplomatic" behavior. SCREAM! Please! SOMEONE! ANYONE!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:30 PM
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19. Take a good look. They will not be representing us for much longer!
I am beyond disappointed. I am enraged.

Peace.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:26 PM
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16. Actually it was about land
it was just that the black people happened to be the ones living on it.

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:30 PM
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18. Yes. That, too. They wanted the land because they wanted control
of the ports. :cry: It just makes me sick inside.

peace.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:32 PM
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22. And Bush wants to build fancy houses
all over the Gulf Coast.

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:28 PM
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17. I think it was predominantly about class, too. However...
For one solid week the only pics we saw were pics of African Americans. If it was about class...where were the caucasians? Where were they? The first pics I saw of caucasians being rescued was last evening on KO!

Worthless. Undesirable. Disposable. That's what I saw. That was the message. Ask Babs. She'll tell you!

Peace.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:32 PM
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21. Because he's not
what we thought he'd be. He's an opportunist and will run with the pukes! Bet cha!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:33 PM
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23. And Germany wasn't about the Jews
and his point?

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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:35 PM
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24. He's in denial, plain and simple. It's called a coping mechanism
I refuse to believe he has entered Condi Land...
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 04:36 PM
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25. Was the "it's too dangerous in there, we are suspending evac..."
Also colorblind?

C'mon, the "crazy looting niggers on a wild rampage" excuse would have been hard to pull off with white folks. Especially with live pictures of white children and their mothers dying in the heat while waiting for help that never came.

This isn't to say there wasn't some violence and that white people, especially the poor, weren't hurt just as badly.

But there are elements to this narrative that make no sense when divorced from race in this country.

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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:59 PM
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27. A journalist friend of mine interviewed him during his campaign
Said he was very rude and did not want to talk to him. And this is a black journalist!

Also the people on his campaign staff at least at that event were pretty much lily white.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:22 PM
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28. Obama lost me by voting with Repubs at LONG time ago. He's just another
spineless Dem, I think.
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