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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:08 PM
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CNN reporting blame should go on Local gov in NO
Right now.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:10 PM
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1. Saying "Pattern of Failure"
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 05:14 PM by jsamuel
They used a three word quote of the Mayor on Monday to say that he was downplaying the problems.
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ramblin_dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:10 PM
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2. That's an opinion, not a report
What's up with that?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:10 PM
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4. Who is doing the "reporting"?
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:11 PM
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7. Some woman
with dark hair I've never seen.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:13 PM
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15. It's on Lou Dobbs and that's the woman who sometimes subs for him
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:14 PM
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21. Kitty Pilgram (sp?)
On Lou Dobbs. Showed school buses parked in lot that they said could have been used to evacuate people. That sounds like a Rove clip and sound bite to me.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:12 PM
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11. Kitty Pilgrimage on Lou Dobbs
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:13 PM
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12. WTF happened to Lou of late?
Rove threaten his life?
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:14 PM
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22. At the end of her report
He said thanks for that perspective. She talked about the school buses about Hurricane Ivan last year and some hurricane in 98 and how it was known back then that the Superdome was a bad place to house victims.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:20 PM
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27. There's probably truth to that but Nagin's only been in for 2 years
and the city of N.O. has long suffered corruption. He's supposed to fix it overnight in the face of budget cuts from the Feds?
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:13 PM
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13. and who is she?
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:10 PM
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5. White House Spin (eom)
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:14 PM
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18. Kitty Pilgrim doing "Equirer - like reporting".... no interview with the
Mayor ...no asking who actually stays in town do drive 500 bus's ..

I thought bus drivers were a FEMA manpower responsibility
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:10 PM
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3. We knew this would happen.
The Rove machine is in full deflection mode - Bush saying "let's not play the blame game" while his posse plants stories and lies, blaming the State and Local govts. Classic Rove.
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:11 PM
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6. shrub and company are to blame
not the local government in NO. Repeat, bush and co. are to blame for this tragedy. Shame on CNN for spewing the garbage.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:11 PM
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8. who said it?
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Lengsel Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:11 PM
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9. how ridiculous
. . . motherfuck them and their bullshit. Fuck them to goddamn hell and them some.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:14 PM
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20. I wish you wouldn't be so vague
I mean, how are we supposed to know how you feel if you beat around the bush like that? ;) I'm kidding of course. Welcome to DU :toast:
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:12 PM
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10. They can say it all they want nobody is listening
to them they are watching the facts on Oprah.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:17 PM
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24. yep, Oprah deserves a Pulitzer
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:41 PM
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33. I hope you're right! I know everything from the WH sounds hollow...
but...there are die hards out here who can't believe something they did could cause this much misery. As far as I'm concerned--anybody who voted for "W" owns this disaster! Now you all have to clean up the latest mess he made.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:13 PM
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14. The same CNN that covered the conventions so fairly in 2004?
Thought so.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:13 PM
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16. Oh that makes sense...
I guess it was Nagin and Blanco that cut billions out of the Army Corps of Engineers' budget.....

Nagin and Blanco aren't entirely without blame, but they have maybe 1% of the blame for not driving evacuees out with their own personal vehicles.

The other 99% of the blame rests solely on Bush and the Republicans in congress who slashed the budget of the ACOE. New Orleans wouldn't have been destroyed had the levees not failed. The levees failed because of budget cuts.

END OF DISCUSSION!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:13 PM
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17. Lou Dobbs can kiss my ass.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:14 PM
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19. Lou Dobbs e-mail
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:18 PM
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25. thanks
Emailed him some FACTS like the Governors declaration on Aug 28 and the FEMA LAWs.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:26 PM
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28. My email to Lou
The "perspective" that you shared with your viewers about the blame falling solely on the local government of New Orleans, why not offer a balanced report and talk about the blame in Mississippi or Alabama? It seems too often with this administration, that when they screw up, the blame falls squarely on someone else's shoulders. I would not be surprised that the meme that has been going around the last few days saying it was the victim's faults hasn't made it as "perspective" on your program.

As has been reported by your network and others, New Orleans made it through the hurricane just fine, it was the levees that burst that didn't. It is Louisiana's fault that the FEDERAL government cut their budget for improving the levees? It's a shame in a tragedy like this, you and your ilk, always tow the line for this miserable failure of an administration.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:43 PM
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34. Your e-mail is good
and points out where that segment failed. It did surprise me that Lou didn't have a rebuttal. Maybe because for days now the journalist in NO have discussed and shown the problems. CNN has shown the rants (justifiably) of the mayor and other local officials.

As I type Lou is making your point. He does better coverage of this administration then most. He just pointed out the problems with the new bankruptcy law going into effect which will no doubt hurt the people of NO and the condition of the levees prior to the storm, etc.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:49 PM
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36. Thanks.
It just angers me that the MSM just doesn't seem to want to do what they are being paid to do, present the facts. I have no problem with the facts coming from both sides, as long as they are facts and not someone's spin or opinion.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:37 PM
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31. I sent him a really long e-mail. I am just so pissed off at the way
that the GOP under Bush has used the South and now they are taking the South for granted, not even bothering to understand Southern culture or needs. I just know they are going to try to move in a bunch of contractors from up north to do the Reconstruction, and it is going to piss off the locals who will be too polite to say anything out loud, but they will be muttering under their breaths the whole time about the damned Federal Government, and * and Co. are going to be SO suprised when their faithful southern constiuents arent so faithful in 2006.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:14 PM
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23. Too late. The cow is already out of the barn.
While I'm sure Karl will crank up the propaganda, it won't be enough to save Dubya's (and the GOP's) sinking approval ratings.

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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:19 PM
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26. hope you are right
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:31 PM
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29. This is turning into a real slug fest. Don't think they are not aware of
that the images just seen on Oprah are powerful and indicting to their administration. They are cornered vicious rats. I think we are about ready to see just how far they might go to hold on to power.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:32 PM
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30. It was a city that was already falling.
Last time I was there, it overwhelmed me with a sense of disintegrating infrastructure. My friends who lived there paid all of $100 a year on property taxes. The place was falling apart, crime totally out of control.

It was a city that NEEDED some federal intervention. What happened is so not surprising (though the foot-dragging federal response WAS).

Moreover, the disaster was of epic, national proportions. The cash-strapped, embattled local government had not a chance against it -- no matter how well-intentioned they were.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:46 PM
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35. And how many other cash-strapped, embattled local govs. are
there around this Country thanks to the 'compassionate conservatives"? Many cities will be in the same shape when/if a natural disaster hits. So watch out FReepers, you could be next! And don't you DARE expect the Fed. Gov. to come to your aid after the bush ass kissing you have engaged in these past few days!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:38 PM
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32. This is such bullshit! Stop passing the buck!
Yes, it's true that first responder duties fall to the local authorities. And yes, it's true that cities handle their own evacuations. But there's no way that anyone could possibly believe that a city, or a state for that matter, could be capable of evacuating millions of people in one day. What kind of resources do they think they have? How many jobs can one state trooper perform at the same time.

I'm sick of politicians in Washington interpretting "state's rights" to mean "state's mess"! Just because something falls under the control of the state does not mean that the federal government, with its wealth of resources, cannot lend a hand. It is exactly that kind of disconnect between local and federal planning that got us into this mess!

If that's the case, I'm not going to pay federal taxes anymore.
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